MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

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storm.racing
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6/2/2025 11:49am Edited Date/Time 6/2/2025 12:04pm

Sram bought out ochain.

woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

Put a SRAM logo on it and charge more? 🙃

change 104BCD to a new proprietary chainring?

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TimBud
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6/2/2025 11:55am

The almighty Vault has been “maxxed”

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earleb
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woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

Put a SRAM logo on it and charge more? 🙃

change 104BCD to a new proprietary chainring?

DUB only. 

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roost66
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103.99 bcd

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Evil96
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6/2/2025 12:26pm
Fantaman wrote:

Wonder why they stopped testing the gen2 6-pots from several years ago when I’m watching how everyone testing the 6-pot Lewis brakes is raving about them…

who is? i've seen a video and it showed how much a " look we make this cool thing here"product is rather than being actually better in any way

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Konda
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6/2/2025 2:21pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2025 2:22pm
TimBud wrote:

The almighty Vault has been “maxxed”

Hopefully they find an axle seal which actually works 🤞

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sollie
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6/2/2025 2:26pm

Sram bought out ochain.

woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

Automatic electronic locking/unlocking to go along with all their other gadgets? 

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6/2/2025 3:04pm
uina wrote:
New light E-MTB from Propain

New light E-MTB from Propain

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3ullit wrote:

Why light? Maybe DJI?

Flo7 wrote:

It´s TQ

Wonder if I can sell my Slash+ by June 26th...

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6/2/2025 4:09pm

Sram bought out ochain.

woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

Easy to be pessimist but Sram recently bought Time pedals & Velocio. Sram pretty much left them to keep doing their own stuff. Just made a better package for when Sram sponsor a team like HTsqd for Velocio or Sram equipped world tour teams for Time Pedals.

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shakazulu12
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6/2/2025 4:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2025 4:28pm
Lacanuck24 wrote:
Crestline went DJI. Wasn't on my 2025 E-bike Bingo cardThat's a full power, 800wh battery bike. Jeebus!

Crestline went DJI. Wasn't on my 2025 E-bike Bingo card
RS 181 Spectre Edition - DJI FRAMESET - Image 10
That's a full power, 800wh battery bike. Jeebus!

Bases on the comments here it was already available and then sold out on their site???

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1123582389806007&id=10006…

They sent an email to previous Crestline bike buyers last week with the specs etc and offering the chance to place their order before the public release.  They only had 99 available so I wouldn't be surprised if there were only a handful left available by the time the actual public release happened.  

 

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monarchmason
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6/3/2025 7:51am

Sram bought out ochain.

woah! hmmmm what will they do to it...

Put a SRAM logo on it and charge more? 🙃

Make tiers to how it functions. The NX Ochain has lead installed into it to make it a little heavier and 2° of disengagement. Then the GX is a smidge lighter but it contains more degrees of disengagement. The Eagle Pro Premium will give you 360° of disengagement as well a cool bird and the additional benefit of less mass moving on your body because you just emptied your wallet to buy it. 

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6/3/2025 8:23am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2025 8:25am

Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241 

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Highlights

- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks)
- Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies
- 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip
- Sixfinity suspension design
- TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit
- 290Wh or 580Wh battery options
- Integrated removable battery
- Integrated top tube display
- Adjustable leverage rate
- 64-degree head tube angle
- 449mm chainstay length
- Internal cable routing
- 12X148 Boost rear spacing
- Sizes: S - XL
- 3 build kits
- MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300
- Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)

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az2au
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6/3/2025 8:28am

Hilarious that I just posted the email sent to TQ dealers this morning and as the page refreshed I saw the post showing it.  

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bcurrancy
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6/3/2025 10:57am
Propain put their Sresh SL teaser out with a bunch of infohttps://www.propain-bikes.com/us/sresh-sl-teaser/

Propain put their Sresh SL teaser out with a bunch of info
https://www.propain-bikes.com/us/sresh-sl-teaser/
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Etney wrote:

Maybe not possible to tell from the pic but, anyone able to tell what motor it uses?

TQ hpr60

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6/3/2025 11:29am
Nobble wrote:
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work...

While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work around how much halflink chains stretch.

The shadow supreme is pretty beefy, but i don't see that playing well with gears...

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roost66
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6/3/2025 12:09pm
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...

Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241 

Yeti Details-3Yeti Details-21.jpg?VersionId=29s7DzD8mI7vXRbNGRUxavg.Yp3SbYeti Details-24.jpg?VersionId=bGQCp5nmVAz6jD0lP2OR8

Yeti Details-6 0.jpg?VersionId=xL8

Highlights

- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks)
- Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies
- 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip
- Sixfinity suspension design
- TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit
- 290Wh or 580Wh battery options
- Integrated removable battery
- Integrated top tube display
- Adjustable leverage rate
- 64-degree head tube angle
- 449mm chainstay length
- Internal cable routing
- 12X148 Boost rear spacing
- Sizes: S - XL
- 3 build kits
- MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300
- Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)

Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.  

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jonkranked
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6/3/2025 12:16pm
lloyd506 wrote:

More like reinventing the half-link chain. 

Nobble wrote:
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work...

While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work around how much halflink chains stretch.

make it massive like bmx chains. 

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6/3/2025 12:18pm
Propain put their Sresh SL teaser out with a bunch of infohttps://www.propain-bikes.com/us/sresh-sl-teaser/

Propain put their Sresh SL teaser out with a bunch of info
https://www.propain-bikes.com/us/sresh-sl-teaser/
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Really liking this trend of SL eebs having removable batteries. Put the small one on for after work laps and then the big one (or extra small one in the shuttle truck) on for an all day mission.

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6/3/2025 12:23pm
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...

Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241 

Yeti Details-3Yeti Details-21.jpg?VersionId=29s7DzD8mI7vXRbNGRUxavg.Yp3SbYeti Details-24.jpg?VersionId=bGQCp5nmVAz6jD0lP2OR8

Yeti Details-6 0.jpg?VersionId=xL8

Highlights

- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks)
- Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies
- 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip
- Sixfinity suspension design
- TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit
- 290Wh or 580Wh battery options
- Integrated removable battery
- Integrated top tube display
- Adjustable leverage rate
- 64-degree head tube angle
- 449mm chainstay length
- Internal cable routing
- 12X148 Boost rear spacing
- Sizes: S - XL
- 3 build kits
- MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300
- Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)

roost66 wrote:

Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.  

Yeti engineers when discussing how many bearings to use: 48d

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6/3/2025 12:48pm
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...

Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241 

Yeti Details-3Yeti Details-21.jpg?VersionId=29s7DzD8mI7vXRbNGRUxavg.Yp3SbYeti Details-24.jpg?VersionId=bGQCp5nmVAz6jD0lP2OR8

Yeti Details-6 0.jpg?VersionId=xL8

Highlights

- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks)
- Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies
- 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip
- Sixfinity suspension design
- TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit
- 290Wh or 580Wh battery options
- Integrated removable battery
- Integrated top tube display
- Adjustable leverage rate
- 64-degree head tube angle
- 449mm chainstay length
- Internal cable routing
- 12X148 Boost rear spacing
- Sizes: S - XL
- 3 build kits
- MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300
- Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)

roost66 wrote:

Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.  

Poleczechy wrote:
Yeti engineers when discussing how many bearings to use:

Yeti engineers when discussing how many bearings to use: 48d

I annoyingly just thought of a better meme: 

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Trocko
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6/3/2025 1:40pm
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...

Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241 

Yeti Details-3Yeti Details-21.jpg?VersionId=29s7DzD8mI7vXRbNGRUxavg.Yp3SbYeti Details-24.jpg?VersionId=bGQCp5nmVAz6jD0lP2OR8

Yeti Details-6 0.jpg?VersionId=xL8

Highlights

- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks)
- Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies
- 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip
- Sixfinity suspension design
- TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit
- 290Wh or 580Wh battery options
- Integrated removable battery
- Integrated top tube display
- Adjustable leverage rate
- 64-degree head tube angle
- 449mm chainstay length
- Internal cable routing
- 12X148 Boost rear spacing
- Sizes: S - XL
- 3 build kits
- MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300
- Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)

roost66 wrote:

Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.  

If you’ve owned or worked on a yeti with switch infinity, you’d probably be happy with more bearings instead

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Nobble
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6/3/2025 2:13pm
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...

Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241 

Yeti Details-3Yeti Details-21.jpg?VersionId=29s7DzD8mI7vXRbNGRUxavg.Yp3SbYeti Details-24.jpg?VersionId=bGQCp5nmVAz6jD0lP2OR8

Yeti Details-6 0.jpg?VersionId=xL8

Highlights

- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks)
- Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies
- 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip
- Sixfinity suspension design
- TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit
- 290Wh or 580Wh battery options
- Integrated removable battery
- Integrated top tube display
- Adjustable leverage rate
- 64-degree head tube angle
- 449mm chainstay length
- Internal cable routing
- 12X148 Boost rear spacing
- Sizes: S - XL
- 3 build kits
- MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300
- Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)

roost66 wrote:

Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.  

Trocko wrote:

If you’ve owned or worked on a yeti with switch infinity, you’d probably be happy with more bearings instead

It’s easy to work on, throw away the old link, install the new one, be $300 poorer.

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Evil96
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6/3/2025 2:17pm
Nobble wrote:

It’s easy to work on, throw away the old link, install the new one, be $300 poorer.

That applies if you’re not the first owner, if you are, well then you get a free new switch 

Nobble
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6/3/2025 3:30pm
Nobble wrote:

It’s easy to work on, throw away the old link, install the new one, be $300 poorer.

Evil96 wrote:

That applies if you’re not the first owner, if you are, well then you get a free new switch 

Really? All their warranty policy says is lifetime against manufacturing defects not wear and tear.

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dwhere
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6/3/2025 3:34pm
Nobble wrote:

It’s easy to work on, throw away the old link, install the new one, be $300 poorer.

Evil96 wrote:

That applies if you’re not the first owner, if you are, well then you get a free new switch 

Nobble wrote:

Really? All their warranty policy says is lifetime against manufacturing defects not wear and tear.

I have had an si bike for 5 years now. They are way easier to service than replacing a bearing. When I noticed a little wear they sent me a new one no questions asked. 

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