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DylanJM
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5/12/2025 4:45am
D(C) wrote:
There are a few photos from the Enduro World Cup of people (e.g. Alex Rudeau) riding what looks like the new 36. Is that actually a...

There are a few photos from the Enduro World Cup of people (e.g. Alex Rudeau) riding what looks like the new 36. Is that actually a new 38 with 36 stickers on it?

I imagine it is the 36. I feel we would have seen a new 38 when they were launching everything else. 

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5/12/2025 7:26am

Initial impressions of the Wheeltop mech from Dave Rome of Escape Collective

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5/12/2025 7:37am
IIRC corrosion resistance and plating were expensive challenges that stopped production of the steel SweetWings. The steel cranks were over 150g heavier than ti.So, if labor...

IIRC corrosion resistance and plating were expensive challenges that stopped production of the steel SweetWings. The steel cranks were over 150g heavier than ti.

So, if labor costs are similar, with an increased cost for plating, and a saving for the steel material vs titanium, perhaps a steel version would cost almost the same as Ti eeWings but weight more than SLX. 

I imagine much if not all of the tooling for Ti could be used in fabricating steel. 

That's kinda what I was getting at, but you said it better than I did. 

I'd gather the labor and tooling costs would be the same, just whatever difference in cost of materials, which means they might be a bit cheaper - but not enough for people to buy them over ti. It seems like a cool idea in theory, but in practice you are narrowing an already narrow market for expensive cranks down to a point where the price savings isn't enough to appeal to a wider audience and people would rather pay for the higher end, ligher version because the cost is so close. If they cost $900 vs the $1200 for titanium, I'm not sure many people would buy them, in other words. 

Those Cyber Crank ORs posted above are sweet though. I wish I could run eeWings but my BLE (only bike atm) is limited to a 24mm spindle, so they are out and I had to sell the ones I had. It's easy (and reasonable IMO) to scoff at the price - but I bought all mine on sale for like 600-700 USD, which is about as much as I paid for a set of SRAM cranks that lasted a month and they refused to warranty when the threads failed. The Cyber Cranks look sweet, but they have a weight and riding use limit (XC only, no DH), which gives me some hesitation. They'd look sweet on the BLE and match the aesthetic, but the Middleburns on there do too...Either way, I'd love steel cranks like those but it doesn't seem effective in large quantities for a brand like CC

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5/12/2025 7:41am
Heavy rumours the new Capra will get an 'extension' apparently the new large will basically be in the middle of current large/XL size wise.Probably was the...

Heavy rumours the new Capra will get an 'extension' apparently the new large will basically be in the middle of current large/XL size wise.
Probably was the only thing holding me back from buying a YT, either to big or to small.

A lot of bikes suffer from this, another one that comes to mind is the Cannondale Jekyll, reach on a L is 475 and XL is 510, I'm just under 6'2" and had an XL V1 Sentinel that was 500mm and that felt too long for me. Currently on a S3 Privateer 161 that is 490 and get along very well with that length, while my L REEB SST is 480 and definitely wouldn't want to go any shorter than that. 

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5/12/2025 9:25am
Heavy rumours the new Capra will get an 'extension' apparently the new large will basically be in the middle of current large/XL size wise.Probably was the...

Heavy rumours the new Capra will get an 'extension' apparently the new large will basically be in the middle of current large/XL size wise.
Probably was the only thing holding me back from buying a YT, either to big or to small.

YT needing those frame enlargement pills.

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5/12/2025 10:06am
D(C) wrote:
There are a few photos from the Enduro World Cup of people (e.g. Alex Rudeau) riding what looks like the new 36. Is that actually a...

There are a few photos from the Enduro World Cup of people (e.g. Alex Rudeau) riding what looks like the new 36. Is that actually a new 38 with 36 stickers on it?

Also doing the bike check Friday on the 38 USD but racing with the 36. 🤔

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5/12/2025 10:47am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 10:48am
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What’s the latest on next gen shimano? I know we’ve seen a few shots of XTR and a couple of prototype saint derailleurs at world cups...

What’s the latest on next gen shimano? I know we’ve seen a few shots of XTR and a couple of prototype saint derailleurs at world cups but apart from that information seems pretty thin.

Talked to a Shimano Rep this weekend--he made vague promises about new electric XT and XTR.  He said it would be a 2026 product.  He mentioned "new to the market features," implying that it would excite me.

I have no guesses at the previously unimagined features. I do suspect that we will see a formal announcement this summer, and some bikes with OEM e-XT and e-XTR (or whatever they call it) announced in the fall when people start rolling out the 2026 kits. There was no mention of SLX.

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5/12/2025 10:57am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 10:59am

Pembree dropper on the way?

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5/12/2025 11:20am
Pembree dropper on the way?

Pembree dropper on the way?

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Gunna guess bars.
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I will call this, the Tyee that should've been, no cable tourism bullshit, no caliper inside the seatstay bullshit, bravo Propain, seriously considering this one as my next bike unless Evil drops something better ( for me )Schermata 2025-05-13 alle 09.48.54 0.png?VersionId=lrn

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5/13/2025 2:43am

Elena Conolly on what appears to be a new Habit. In Frame Storage and probably a bit more Travel 160f/150r i guess

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5/13/2025 6:35am

Haibike hinting at their next bike. The silhouette implies it's a Pinion MGU.1000027319 0

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One 5 second Google later save waiting 20 hours

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5/13/2025 7:22am
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but it’s been pretty radio silent from them regarding anything new for a while now…
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Oops, similar situation TQ HPR60 search and Yeti's new eeb just popped up. 

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5/13/2025 7:42am

The other levers that Hope do on Joe Barnes new bike (11th pic)

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What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but...
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but it’s been pretty radio silent from them regarding anything new for a while now…

From back in March:

[ 3/18/2025 10:58am
 

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAQGYREHPB

…Dave Weagle visiting Evil for a Q&A then “off to Taiwan” ]

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5/13/2025 7:55am

Who’s going to do the screen grabs from the new Finn testing vid??? I saw a HR3 on the intro shot which was interesting and also seems like a lot of looks at the new brake. 

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5/13/2025 8:01am

Well, the master cylinder has a similar enough silhouette to some of the TRP's but that seems to be where the similarities end. The styling is unique enough when you look closely. Caliper is definitely different. Interesting bleed port placement

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sspomer
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5/13/2025 8:02am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2025 8:05am

finn on the new prototype specialized

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does anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

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marzbomber888
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5/13/2025 8:07am
nskerb wrote:
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but...
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but it’s been pretty radio silent from them regarding anything new for a while now…

I’ve heard they are alive and active. I think they know they need updates and are working on them just slowly. They are doing a lot event wise and media.  Can’t wait to see what they  are doing and hopefully a longer travel free ride/ downhill bike! 

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5/13/2025 8:11am
sspomer wrote:
finn on the new prototype specializeddoes anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

finn on the new prototype specialized

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does anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.

Looking at that second picture, I don't think any current gearboxes would fit, so unless Specialized is making their own...

Unfortunately it's probably more like Pivot's DH bike :/

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As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.Looking at that second picture, I don't...

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.

Looking at that second picture, I don't think any current gearboxes would fit, so unless Specialized is making their own...

Unfortunately it's probably more like Pivot's DH bike :/

2 chains is becoming a thing...

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5/13/2025 8:37am
sspomer wrote:
finn on the new prototype specializeddoes anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

finn on the new prototype specialized

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does anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.Looking at that second picture, I don't...

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.

Looking at that second picture, I don't think any current gearboxes would fit, so unless Specialized is making their own...

Unfortunately it's probably more like Pivot's DH bike :/

 My money is still on that little pulley wheel "sprocket" doing double duty as a tensioner and drive sprocket. Clearly not enough room for a gearbox. "Maybe" a second chain. Highly unlikely but not totally impossible.
How awesome would it be if there was a chain hidden in there like the old three-chained Cannondale Fulcrum. 

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There was also a couple shots of the Ohlins shock in there with a view to see more of what they have going on. Electric valve on the HSC circuit. Maybe we are getting close to them sharing the info on it. 

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5/13/2025 8:53am
Who’s going to do the screen grabs from the new Finn testing vid??? I saw a HR3 on the intro shot which was interesting and also...

Who’s going to do the screen grabs from the new Finn testing vid??? I saw a HR3 on the intro shot which was interesting and also seems like a lot of looks at the new brake. 

That appears to be a Hillbilly not a HR3.

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5/13/2025 9:00am

That appears to be a Hillbilly not a HR3.

Duh, my mistake

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5/13/2025 9:34am

vid is private now 🤷‍♂️

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