Well this already seems to be pretty poorly managed. One of the most common questions was always going to be "which of these new fangled parts...
Well this already seems to be pretty poorly managed. One of the most common questions was always going to be "which of these new fangled parts can be installed in my old fork?", so to not have a clear answer in the info pack in anticipation is odd.
Please be the same! Specialized have something really interesting going on with the Genie and it's a shame they're only offered in 210x55 with no piggyback...
Please be the same! Specialized have something really interesting going on with the Genie and it's a shame they're only offered in 210x55 with no piggyback, I want one for my bike that currently has an x2 that sounds like it's filled with mac n cheese.
The Float X Genie already exists (seems to come on some of the eebs)Even if you couldn't get hold of one, by the looks of the...
The Float X Genie already exists (seems to come on some of the eebs)
Even if you couldn't get hold of one, by the looks of the teardown, I don't think there's a reason all of the genie-ish parts couldn't be transferred to a regular Float X in either 210 or 185T shocks.
The piggyback genies are impossible to get, I tried a few avenues and was told replacements aren’t available. I’ll be interested if these ever come to the aftermarket.
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?
My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?
My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.
It looks like its slowly getting back online. I can finally access and see my suspension in the trailhead app.
Well this already seems to be pretty poorly managed. One of the most common questions was always going to be "which of these new fangled parts...
Well this already seems to be pretty poorly managed. One of the most common questions was always going to be "which of these new fangled parts can be installed in my old fork?", so to not have a clear answer in the info pack in anticipation is odd.
This is why I’m a Rockshox man despite loving every Fox fork I have the chance to ride.
To give them credit, it sounds like the new air spring shafts will be backward compatible, albeit only in 150 and 160mm travel lengths. I got all my predictions about the new 36 wrong. 😱
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate...
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate limiting the shifts, vs the actual cassette design (Ofc if the system prevents you from dumping gears in a bad place or otherwise shifting like an idiot then the shifting will appear to be better…).
Also more curiosity than ever to try and run the direct mount derailleur with a shimano hyperglide chain and cassette….probably need to swap the jockey wheels but otherwise it should work?
Guinea pig it for us! Would be a great setup to have a durable rebuildable T-type derailleur without having to drop $250 on a SRAM cassette (even though it is cool they'll sell you replacements of the gears that wear out for $50) No messing around swapping chainrings for changing the chainline from 52 to 55 either.
We didn't get parts in time to get any on-trail impressions. Hoping to get a Motive review out in 6 weeks or so. No pad contact adjustment is a bummer IMO.
I've setup an Eagle 90 groupset, which was pretty easy and wild not having any adjustments other than cable tension. Unlike AXS Transmission, there is no lag when shifting. You push a paddle on the shifter, and once cable tension is released or pulled, the chain starts moving. On that note, the downshift paddle feels pretty tight and takes some effort to move.
As someone mentioned above, I'll be curious to see how it handles smashing gears since it doesn't pause and wait for shift ramps like AXS. From pedaling around my street, changing gears has a very similar crisp, tight feel to AXS Transmission. Now to swap to some lighter X0 cranks to drop some weight
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead of buying some aftermarket €500-1000 crankset, here you get both a chainring and a crankset with built in bash guards for sub €200 euros.
Might even be good for people or shops to buy, and just let people run them as test cranks in the shorter lengths.
Edit: Forgot to even check, the Eagle 70 crankset is just about €100, available in the same lengths, with a chainring. Seems like actually a VERY good value for money.
Is it single gear pull only or can you pull multiple gears?
As for contact point adjustment, Level brakes never had it. Not sure where Motive slots in, but it seemed G2 brakes were dying a slow death anyway and were being replaced by Level.
@Etney not much difference to Eagle GX, NX and SX cranks offer, length and price wise. And construction wise.
Is it single gear pull only or can you pull multiple gears? As for contact point adjustment, Level brakes never had it. Not sure where Motive slots...
Is it single gear pull only or can you pull multiple gears?
As for contact point adjustment, Level brakes never had it. Not sure where Motive slots in, but it seemed G2 brakes were dying a slow death anyway and were being replaced by Level.
@Etney not much difference to Eagle GX, NX and SX cranks offer, length and price wise. And construction wise.
Downshifting is apparently two gears per sweep, not sure about upshifting. Most likely one per sweep/click because of how transmission works.
According to srams website, GX and NX are available only in 165mm minimum. I can only find "previous gen" Eagle X1 with shorter cranks than that, and then you'll have to get a different chainring since its not transmission compatible afaik. And SX is not available for consumers afaik.
Some mixed responses here. I called Fox sales this morning and they also said they were not backwards compatible. Then someone on pinkbike commented that they...
Some mixed responses here. I called Fox sales this morning and they also said they were not backwards compatible. Then someone on pinkbike commented that they work for Fox and say that they are.
Sounds like Fox is going to approve backwards compatibility
don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The brown and pink combo unfortunately is the latter in my opinion.
At least bicyclepubes is probably gonna be happy about the poopcycle.
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead...
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead of buying some aftermarket €500-1000 crankset, here you get both a chainring and a crankset with built in bash guards for sub €200 euros.
Might even be good for people or shops to buy, and just let people run them as test cranks in the shorter lengths.
Edit: Forgot to even check, the Eagle 70 crankset is just about €100, available in the same lengths, with a chainring. Seems like actually a VERY good value for money.
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead...
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead of buying some aftermarket €500-1000 crankset, here you get both a chainring and a crankset with built in bash guards for sub €200 euros.
Might even be good for people or shops to buy, and just let people run them as test cranks in the shorter lengths.
Edit: Forgot to even check, the Eagle 70 crankset is just about €100, available in the same lengths, with a chainring. Seems like actually a VERY good value for money.
Yeah I mean, I guess you could probably play around with the bb spacers or put a 6mm offset chainring to get 52mm chainline if you really want. I believe wolftooth sells a 6mm offset chainring
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?
My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.
Not sure if the SRAM B2B site was down when you posted, but confirming I can access my order on it just fine right now!
don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The...
don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The brown and pink combo unfortunately is the latter in my opinion.
At least bicyclepubes is probably gonna be happy about the poopcycle.
Beauty is in the (pink) eye of the beholder.
I for one think it's sweet to have brands going their own way. There is enough teal colored bikes out there.
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?
My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.
Not sure if the SRAM B2B site was down when you posted, but confirming I can access my order on it just fine right now!
I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized the serial number for my shock (which it also didn't do a few days ago nor last week).
So, it looks like things are somewhat back to regular working order.
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for...
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?
My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.
I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized...
I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized the serial number for my shock (which it also didn't do a few days ago nor last week).
So, it looks like things are somewhat back to regular working order.
Thanks everybody! LBS just let me know they were able to get in to the system and my warranty is in-progress.
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate...
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate limiting the shifts, vs the actual cassette design (Ofc if the system prevents you from dumping gears in a bad place or otherwise shifting like an idiot then the shifting will appear to be better…).
Also more curiosity than ever to try and run the direct mount derailleur with a shimano hyperglide chain and cassette….probably need to swap the jockey wheels but otherwise it should work?
SRAM says:
The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.
And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate...
Very curious to see the reviews on the mech transmission. Specifically, how much of the “amazing shifting under load” is really due to the firmware rate limiting the shifts, vs the actual cassette design (Ofc if the system prevents you from dumping gears in a bad place or otherwise shifting like an idiot then the shifting will appear to be better…).
Also more curiosity than ever to try and run the direct mount derailleur with a shimano hyperglide chain and cassette….probably need to swap the jockey wheels but otherwise it should work?
SRAM says:The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.And apparently on battery powered you...
SRAM says:
The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.
And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.
Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and my only option was to replace the plate with the derailleur for $125 for the GX. That was the cheapest option. This would mean I could buy a whole mech derailleur for the same price to salvage for parts?
that's smart, since buttercuts were back compatible.... You brand fan boys are the pits of mtb.
The piggyback genies are impossible to get, I tried a few avenues and was told replacements aren’t available. I’ll be interested if these ever come to the aftermarket.
Has anyone heard anything more about the SRAM "IT issue"?
My X0 T-Type mech died (second one) and LBS said they have a box of them for warranty but that SRAM can't process any warranties because their B2B portal is having "IT issues" and has been inaccesible for ~a week. Reps can't log in to their computers, phone system doesn't work etc.
Teal Mavens/Motives up
https://shop.sram.com/pages/expert-kits
It looks like its slowly getting back online. I can finally access and see my suspension in the trailhead app.
To give them credit, it sounds like the new air spring shafts will be backward compatible, albeit only in 150 and 160mm travel lengths. I got all my predictions about the new 36 wrong. 😱
$600 for all that is a screaming deal.
Guinea pig it for us! Would be a great setup to have a durable rebuildable T-type derailleur without having to drop $250 on a SRAM cassette (even though it is cool they'll sell you replacements of the gears that wear out for $50) No messing around swapping chainrings for changing the chainline from 52 to 55 either.
Complete details on Motive, DB6 and DB4 - https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/guide-2025-sram-mtb-brakes-motive-maven-db-models
And all the details of mechanical Transmission, Eagle 90 and Eagle 70 - https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/sram-mechanical-transmission-overview-eagle-90-and-eagle-70
We didn't get parts in time to get any on-trail impressions. Hoping to get a Motive review out in 6 weeks or so. No pad contact adjustment is a bummer IMO.
I've setup an Eagle 90 groupset, which was pretty easy and wild not having any adjustments other than cable tension. Unlike AXS Transmission, there is no lag when shifting. You push a paddle on the shifter, and once cable tension is released or pulled, the chain starts moving. On that note, the downshift paddle feels pretty tight and takes some effort to move.
As someone mentioned above, I'll be curious to see how it handles smashing gears since it doesn't pause and wait for shift ramps like AXS. From pedaling around my street, changing gears has a very similar crisp, tight feel to AXS Transmission. Now to swap to some lighter X0 cranks to drop some weight
I feel like this is also very worth to mention. The new crankset comes in a bunch of different lengths, and is very reasonably priced. Instead of buying some aftermarket €500-1000 crankset, here you get both a chainring and a crankset with built in bash guards for sub €200 euros.
Might even be good for people or shops to buy, and just let people run them as test cranks in the shorter lengths.
https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Eagle-90-Transmission-DUB-Crankset-55-mm-Chain…
Edit: Forgot to even check, the Eagle 70 crankset is just about €100, available in the same lengths, with a chainring. Seems like actually a VERY good value for money.
https://r2-bike.com/SRAM-Eagle-70-Transmission-DUB-Crank-55-mm-Chainlin…
Is it single gear pull only or can you pull multiple gears?
As for contact point adjustment, Level brakes never had it. Not sure where Motive slots in, but it seemed G2 brakes were dying a slow death anyway and were being replaced by Level.
@Etney not much difference to Eagle GX, NX and SX cranks offer, length and price wise. And construction wise.
so with all these new released sram mineral oil brakes out now, turns out i was kinda right, take that doubters
Seatpost release date sometime in april confirmed by guykestv - See text on the post
Downshifting is apparently two gears per sweep, not sure about upshifting. Most likely one per sweep/click because of how transmission works.
According to srams website, GX and NX are available only in 165mm minimum. I can only find "previous gen" Eagle X1 with shorter cranks than that, and then you'll have to get a different chainring since its not transmission compatible afaik. And SX is not available for consumers afaik.
4 new colors
Sounds like Fox is going to approve backwards compatibility
don’t know what they thought with that color. I’m usually in the boat that colors are either nice, eh or boring, but not actively ugly. The brown and pink combo unfortunately is the latter in my opinion.
At least bicyclepubes is probably gonna be happy about the poopcycle.
But limited to 55 chainline, right?
just put up some pit bits from tennessee national this morn
https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/pit-bits-2025-tennessee-national
Very funky looking dhx2
Yeah I mean, I guess you could probably play around with the bb spacers or put a 6mm offset chainring to get 52mm chainline if you really want. I believe wolftooth sells a 6mm offset chainring
Not sure if the SRAM B2B site was down when you posted, but confirming I can access my order on it just fine right now!
someday new saints
Are both the rebound knobs on the bottom? Yeah no way I could get to that on my firebird.
I do have the EXT Storia V3 on my firebird and I need to remove the lower shock bolt to turn the rebound knob
Beauty is in the (pink) eye of the beholder.
I for one think it's sweet to have brands going their own way. There is enough teal colored bikes out there.
I just added my fork and shock on the Trailhead app (which I couldn't do a few days ago). Also the Sram website support section recognized the serial number for my shock (which it also didn't do a few days ago nor last week).
So, it looks like things are somewhat back to regular working order.
Thanks everybody! LBS just let me know they were able to get in to the system and my warranty is in-progress.
SRAM says:
The derailleur cage assembly is interchangeable between SRAM Transmission XXSL, XX, X0, GX, S1000, Eagle 90, and Eagle 70 derailleurs.
And apparently on battery powered you need to move the jockey wheels inward with spacers to use with regular cassettes. So it should be doable.
Isn't the clutch itself included as a single replacement part on the derailleur side of the T-Type electronic cages? I just needed that inner plate and my only option was to replace the plate with the derailleur for $125 for the GX. That was the cheapest option. This would mean I could buy a whole mech derailleur for the same price to salvage for parts?