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3/17/2025 6:59am

I think you guys who are this picky just need to not buy stock bikes. Or not expect perfection. I recently bought a complete bike. Changed out the dropper, handlebar, grips, and rotors. After spending $500 on that it was STILL cheaper than if I’d pieced it together myself  

Now shut the fuck up about dropper length and show me shiny new bike parts. 

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3/17/2025 7:05am

What's the latest intel on a production Demo/Enduro?

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3/17/2025 9:51am
Vincent P wrote:
I thought you were right so I built one! dropperchecker.comDoesn't solve the missing frame insertion info. But still makes it a bit easier to make...

I thought you were right so I built one! dropperchecker.com

Doesn't solve the missing frame insertion info. But still makes it a bit easier to make a call.

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Missing minimum insertion depth as well. It's a minor one, but it can affect fitment if you have long legs and don't want/can't get long drop options. Sorry for spamming, I couldn't quote this into the Dropper Post thread.

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3/17/2025 9:53am

Yes Commencal is on RS and testing with remote shocks, but they also are using a new link with flip chip at the top now where stock bikes only have chip at the bottom of the shock. Second photo is just to add flavor!

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3/17/2025 10:13am
Fred_Pop wrote:
I have a 200mm dropper with a 415mm length straight seat tube and it sticks out about 3cm for climbing. Tried installing a 240mm dropper but...

I have a 200mm dropper with a 415mm length straight seat tube and it sticks out about 3cm for climbing. Tried installing a 240mm dropper but couldn't run it slammed so sent it back. I'd take a 400mm or less seat post and 250mm or more dropper if it were possible because I want my seat completely out of the way when I descend.

Not sure how you are going to get a 250mm dropper, to fit into 400mm total length, when the 250 has to fit into the lower half (150mm in this case), plus the seat mount, the collar & the mechanism at the bottom.

 

Would need to collapse like an old timey telescope like sailors used to use!

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3/17/2025 10:36am
Yes Commencal is on RS and testing with remote shocks, but they also are using a new link with flip chip at the top now where...

Yes Commencal is on RS and testing with remote shocks, but they also are using a new link with flip chip at the top now where stock bikes only have chip at the bottom of the shock. Second photo is just to add flavor!

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That link was in use last year.

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3/17/2025 11:08am

Wooo! This page goes out to all you Santa Cruz riders! Give it a rip down Crack Shack for me if it's still open.

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3/17/2025 12:35pm
The real question is “why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”Give the people all the drop that’s possible. Any bike that...

The real question is “why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Give the people all the drop that’s possible. Any bike that comes with less than 210mm drop needs to be upgraded. Obviously, if it’s a light weight XC bike, it may not be necessary. But once a bike hits the trail or all mountain category it should come with lots of dropper travel. 

"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will fully insert it, have it not work, and complain. Maybe attempt to sue them when it comes up while riding, and they get hurt. Thank your local Lawyers. 

 

So they have to spec to the smallest rider, not the tallest. 

 

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3/17/2025 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2025 7:27pm
Big Bird wrote:

Wooo! This page goes out to all you Santa Cruz riders! Give it a rip down Crack Shack for me if it's still open.

 

🤘🤙👍

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3/17/2025 3:11pm
The real question is “why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”Give the people all the drop that’s possible. Any bike that...

The real question is “why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Give the people all the drop that’s possible. Any bike that comes with less than 210mm drop needs to be upgraded. Obviously, if it’s a light weight XC bike, it may not be necessary. But once a bike hits the trail or all mountain category it should come with lots of dropper travel. 

"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will...

"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will fully insert it, have it not work, and complain. Maybe attempt to sue them when it comes up while riding, and they get hurt. Thank your local Lawyers. 

 

So they have to spec to the smallest rider, not the tallest. 

 

Also, websites like this tend to be an echo chamber populated by a minority. The vast majority of people don’t care.


I’m 6’3” and honestly, if the post is 170mm+ I don’t even think twice about it.

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3/17/2025 4:20pm

Saw this earlier today, didnt think much of it - Thought it was just a Fox transfer kashima dropper where colors might have been altered or some filter.

But after looking at some comments, and digging around a bit more it does indeed seem like its something new from Intend BC, matching the rest of the components on her bike.

 

So possibly getting a new Intend dropper in the future.

 

Another pic of her bike, and Cornelius Cduro bike, both running the dropper, as well as prototype trail brake from intend. Hopefully something they'll release soon. Will probably be as difficult to get as the trinitys though. Cornelius bike also sports the prototype carbon fork.

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3/17/2025 4:54pm
Etney wrote:
Saw this earlier today, didnt think much of it - Thought it was just a Fox transfer kashima dropper where colors might have been altered or...

Saw this earlier today, didnt think much of it - Thought it was just a Fox transfer kashima dropper where colors might have been altered or some filter.

But after looking at some comments, and digging around a bit more it does indeed seem like its something new from Intend BC, matching the rest of the components on her bike.

 

So possibly getting a new Intend dropper in the future.

 

Another pic of her bike, and Cornelius Cduro bike, both running the dropper, as well as prototype trail brake from intend. Hopefully something they'll release soon. Will probably be as difficult to get as the trinitys though. Cornelius bike also sports the prototype carbon fork.

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Interesting she's using a Wolftooth lever, I wonder if that's a placeholder or Intend thinks it's not worth making their own...

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Etney
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3/17/2025 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2025 5:02pm
dolface wrote:

Interesting she's using a Wolftooth lever, I wonder if that's a placeholder or Intend thinks it's not worth making their own...

Yeah I noticed that too. But I zoomed in on Cornelius (founder of Intend for anyone not in the know) bike - And he runs a different lever. 

Looks silver/gold-ish, and the same hollowed out machined shape of intends levers. He runs red levers, so difficult to see if the color matches up, but looks similar to the fork in the background.

So either they only have a few sets out, or Lena might just prefer the loam wolf lever due to ergonomics etc.

Bad pic but can see its a different lever, and I cant recognize it, chances are its their own version

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3/17/2025 5:43pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2025 6:20pm

New full-sus coming from Allied? Looks like a crab-link...

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3/17/2025 6:13pm
dolface wrote:
New full-sus coming from Allied? Looks like a crab-link...

New full-sus coming from Allied? Looks like a crab-link...

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*crab 

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*crab 

Oh geez, thanks! Fixed it...

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3/18/2025 1:09am
Etney wrote:
Saw this earlier today, didnt think much of it - Thought it was just a Fox transfer kashima dropper where colors might have been altered or...

Saw this earlier today, didnt think much of it - Thought it was just a Fox transfer kashima dropper where colors might have been altered or some filter.

But after looking at some comments, and digging around a bit more it does indeed seem like its something new from Intend BC, matching the rest of the components on her bike.

 

So possibly getting a new Intend dropper in the future.

 

Another pic of her bike, and Cornelius Cduro bike, both running the dropper, as well as prototype trail brake from intend. Hopefully something they'll release soon. Will probably be as difficult to get as the trinitys though. Cornelius bike also sports the prototype carbon fork.

IMG 5687.jpeg?VersionId=NZpdJDWRLHo1U3eXQjWQdy8Qlos MEj

I would like to know why that Intend fork is no longer compatible with a direct mount stem. The early 2000s look with normal stem is 🤮

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3/18/2025 5:11am

Conti fans rejoice, enduro super soft is here

 

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3/18/2025 5:57am
The real question is “why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”Give the people all the drop that’s possible. Any bike that...

The real question is “why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Give the people all the drop that’s possible. Any bike that comes with less than 210mm drop needs to be upgraded. Obviously, if it’s a light weight XC bike, it may not be necessary. But once a bike hits the trail or all mountain category it should come with lots of dropper travel. 

"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will...

"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will fully insert it, have it not work, and complain. Maybe attempt to sue them when it comes up while riding, and they get hurt. Thank your local Lawyers. 

 

So they have to spec to the smallest rider, not the tallest. 

 

Nobble wrote:
Also, websites like this tend to be an echo chamber populated by a minority. The vast majority of people don’t care.I’m 6’3” and honestly, if the...

Also, websites like this tend to be an echo chamber populated by a minority. The vast majority of people don’t care.


I’m 6’3” and honestly, if the post is 170mm+ I don’t even think twice about it.

Well I think being 6 3 also may mean you don’t have to care as much.  Now personally I don’t need much drop either as I’m accustomed to spinning with my seat lower than it probably should be.  In the rare moment I’m actually trying uphill I’m probably going to stand anyways.  

But a seat being low enough is a massive deal for me.  Long reach and low stand over is essential for how I want to ride a bike.   And I want that low seat with at least enough drop I can somewhat pedal.  And I’m sure plenty of people want that low seat with a very high and efficient pedaling position.  Which means you need a lot of dropper in a very small and low space in reference to the bb and rear tire.
 

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3/18/2025 8:18am

Cody Kelly with a mechanical derailleur on a carbon stumpy 15

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Etney
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3/18/2025 9:04am
Fred_Pop wrote:
I would like to know why that Intend fork is no longer compatible with a direct mount stem. The early 2000s look with normal stem is...

I would like to know why that Intend fork is no longer compatible with a direct mount stem. The early 2000s look with normal stem is 🤮

Because technically, its not a "downhill" fork. Its a 170-190mm adjustable enduro fork with a normal steerer tube and a regular boost axle, that just happens to be dual crowned. I am guessing it is probably possible to do though, by adding a few threaded holes, either by them, or yourself. But yeah, its a bit strange.

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Something I missed earlier, but I saw it was discussed on the german mtb-news forum.

The pedals on Cornelius bike, look awfully similar to the pedals Outlier mtb sells. Just without the visible "axle" and in intends color scheme. 

So, probably another product they're working on. Nice to see them branch out and make more products.
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Looks similar in design

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3/18/2025 11:12am
Fred_Pop wrote:
I would like to know why that Intend fork is no longer compatible with a direct mount stem. The early 2000s look with normal stem is...

I would like to know why that Intend fork is no longer compatible with a direct mount stem. The early 2000s look with normal stem is 🤮

Etney wrote:
Because technically, its not a "downhill" fork. Its a 170-190mm adjustable enduro fork with a normal steerer tube and a regular boost axle, that just happens...

Because technically, its not a "downhill" fork. Its a 170-190mm adjustable enduro fork with a normal steerer tube and a regular boost axle, that just happens to be dual crowned. I am guessing it is probably possible to do though, by adding a few threaded holes, either by them, or yourself. But yeah, its a bit strange.

i had to google the launch announcement for that fork, it originally was direct mount compatible. unsure when along the lines they made the change. 

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3/18/2025 11:49am
MTBrent wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAQGYREHPB

…Dave Weagle visiting Evil for a Q&A then “off to Taiwan”

Jeebus they needed an update 4 years ago. I really enjoyed my following mb. Will root for them coming out with a fresh lineup and not have any issues. 

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3/18/2025 11:57am Edited Date/Time 3/18/2025 12:06pm

Looks like a custom axle, maybe bearing in crank look at the DS crank, the bolt is huge. And the pedal body looks quite large too. Really interested in how the bearing arrangement (and what bearing size) they are using.

Intriguing, might lower the q factor quite a bit. But the barrier to entry when you have to sell a crank too is really high. Everybody needs pedals, I think people are willing to splurge for performance or comfort, but custom cranks are, in my opinion, a really hard sell... 

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3/18/2025 12:05pm
"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will...

"why do bike companies spec such short dropper posts on their bikes?”

Brands have to spec a post that functions when fully inserted, or else folks will fully insert it, have it not work, and complain. Maybe attempt to sue them when it comes up while riding, and they get hurt. Thank your local Lawyers. 

 

So they have to spec to the smallest rider, not the tallest. 

 

Nobble wrote:
Also, websites like this tend to be an echo chamber populated by a minority. The vast majority of people don’t care.I’m 6’3” and honestly, if the...

Also, websites like this tend to be an echo chamber populated by a minority. The vast majority of people don’t care.


I’m 6’3” and honestly, if the post is 170mm+ I don’t even think twice about it.

Well I think being 6 3 also may mean you don’t have to care as much.  Now personally I don’t need much drop either as I’m...

Well I think being 6 3 also may mean you don’t have to care as much.  Now personally I don’t need much drop either as I’m accustomed to spinning with my seat lower than it probably should be.  In the rare moment I’m actually trying uphill I’m probably going to stand anyways.  

But a seat being low enough is a massive deal for me.  Long reach and low stand over is essential for how I want to ride a bike.   And I want that low seat with at least enough drop I can somewhat pedal.  And I’m sure plenty of people want that low seat with a very high and efficient pedaling position.  Which means you need a lot of dropper in a very small and low space in reference to the bb and rear tire.
 

Regarding droppers, I think it might finally be time to Drop this topic

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3/18/2025 12:32pm
Trocko wrote:
Cody Kelly with a mechanical derailleur on a carbon stumpy 15

Cody Kelly with a mechanical derailleur on a carbon stumpy 15

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looks to be running housing externally with some zipties 

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