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I would guess a load cell / strain gauge setup to measure braking force separate from fluid pressure. More reactive as brake force changes with brake pressure and wheel location. Could be just to monitor rider input could also be to measure how different kinematics effect brake force and suspension travel.
Probably just a 2 piece bar for length adjustment. First V5 protos had a similar arrangement on the vertical link between the two shirt links. The whole platform overall is designed very modular (when in proto form) to enable them trying out lots of things.
Regarding load sensing, there doesn't seem to be a cable running from the black part. And there doesn't seem to be a DAQ box on the bike.
Skid meter. High score wins.
Magura just let us know that the Gustav Pro is now available aftermarket in addition to the OEM spec launched last year: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/magura-gustav-pro-first-edition-now-available.
so like onlyfans?
the discounts on the sponsors gear / parts is actually kind of interesting too. makes for a better value proposition IMO.
All i know is Joe’s team’s “only fans thing” is less insulting to my intelligence than the press releases that dropped from Temecula around the same time…
If that Axess site was for Frameworks 5-dev, i’d sign up in an instant.
Pretty cool idea. For some people’s spending habits just the discount codes could make it worthwhile. And for the family, friends, and fans of the riders it gives an easy way to financially contribute while getting something in return.
There have to be strings attached. There's no way 100 GBP a year makes it worthwile to have these discounts. One OneUp dropper posts offsets that with the discount they are supposedly offering...
even discounted, selling product is selling product.
Yeah it doesn't make sense imo. I could get this, then get EXT suspension, and come out way ahead compared to just buying straight from EXT.
T&C's are there to read..
Discounts vary between countries and not all countries will have access to these discounts.
Countries with access to discounts includes UK, Europe and North America.
Certain products sold by discount providers may be excluded from discounts.
All discounts are off RRP prices only.
https://www.axessunltd.com/tc-s -
Not necessarily bike innovation...but bike culture/enjoyment/spectating innovation, I think.
I'd be curious about how those purchases need to be made. Maybe that's in the T&C.
I probably can't walk into a bike shop and show them my login credentials and get 35% off a OneUp carbon bar. If those purchases are made directly from the manufacturer then a 35% discount isn't a big deal because a distributor and a bike shop/retailer isn't taking a cut of that sale. Especially if it proves to be effective and the brand can pull back a little on other marketing spending.
If I were a person who had the big idea for this a while back (it's easy to ride this trail and see the possibilities after someone else already cut the trail in), I'd make those discounts available only through a certain portal - on my own website - and maybe that 35-ish% discount could leave a little on the table for me while not cutting too significantly into the manufacturer's per-item profit. Plus it would give me the data to point at and say "we have proof of this many purchases motivated by our team's endorsement of your product." That could be a pretty useful bargaining chip if it all goes well!
Either way, I think it's cool. Fox Dialed and MoiMoiTV and BK and Ed Bull and Greg Callahan and Chazmaz and Ben Cathro and Theo Erlangson (sp?) and Matt Jones and Syd&Macky and Danny Hart (and others I'm sure but I don't have their names top-of-mind right now) have all proven to some extent that people want better coverage and more involvement in bike racing. I'm sure Intense (or whomever spearheaded this) sensed there was going to be a point at which people were going to be happy to pay for their team-specific access to DH racing coverage rather than WBD's access. A couple promises of extra content plus some discount codes on the side and you have the makings of something cool, I think.
I wonder if the market is ready for this adjustment in how it watches DH racing or if this Intense Axxess thing is a little early. I'd pay $100 a year to have team-specific "insider access" to racing for a team. Hell, I could probably do two teams if any discount codes offered were applicable to any purchases I planned to make.
all about it in race talk forum thread instead of here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/2025-race-talk?page=21#comment-588491
more atherton gearbox bike development
another awesome frame stiffness topic with @Ryan Burney
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/can-you-fine-tune-frame-stiffness-just-bolt-bridges
Was there a pedal kickback/ochain dedicated thread? Or should I spam all my thoughts here?
another thought i had..... having a discount from that program could possibly be used to give the sponsors a way to more directly quantify the amount of sales they are getting via their sponsorship via that program
This? https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/damper-products-arent-suspension?pa…
It think its a pretty neat idea and I'm sure leverages their QBP relationship with the new Frame First program. It's funny how one side they talk about supporting local shops with the frame first, custom build at your local shop from QBP program but then also totally get around MAP policies by making it a "club" or "team" or whatever.
So its support your shop on one side of their sales card and totally degradate it on the other....
I think a better way to push brand awareness and sell bikes to serious racers would be a solid contingency program. I know a lot of friends that race moto as a hobby will ride Kawi or KTM because of the ability to win money towards parts or cash.
New FOX products (specifically shocks), which have been frequently mentioned in this forum, will be released on March 31. Info through the FOX distributor in Chile. Pedro Burns rode a DH race this weekend using the prototype coil shock.
The UK is part of Europe no matter what those Islanders say 🤣
that's for the distributors to worry about, for the brand a sale is a sale
Well said.
If Neko started a Frameworks (not to be confused with the new computer company) SubscribeStar or Patreon to support his world cup team, as well as his R&D, no one would be complaining or poking fun at him, and a bunch of us would probably subscribe.
Mate, France has always been the most vocal against the UK. Even before brexit was a thought.
Enough with the faux humour political bs.
Didn’t see it already in the forum, but a pinkbike post with Keegan Swenson gives a very good look at the new reverb.
Took me long enough but here is a FEA of a tubed vs machined CS (take it all with a grain of salt as neither are optimized but its fun to see how the stress goes though the part). Scroll to the bottom: LINK HERE
Would CNC lugs bonded to drawn tubes be the best compromise between the two?
Interesting thought, if you have access to a set of catalog / open mould tubes this could be real nice. Not sure how precise the tolerances are to get a nice interface though...
Nah if anything it will drive volume to those suppliers.
Paying 100 a year to get access to buy more stuff that the rider without the subscription may not consider.
Not really a loss for the team or the suppliers.
I've replied to you over on Ryan's discussion thread.