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AndehM
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3/11/2025 1:08pm
Primoz wrote:
What do you guys mean by light mount? Having a gopro mount is enough for me in that regard, but I did print a ton of...

What do you guys mean by light mount? Having a gopro mount is enough for me in that regard, but I did print a ton of adapters to adapt various lights to gopro mounts... 

Agreed, what's wrong with the ubiquitous GoPro mount?  They're cheaper, smaller, lighter, and more stable than the integrated options that Smith and Bell used to offer.

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3/11/2025 2:14pm

Lever looks used. My guess is a pros take off? Red limited edition was less $ for more, I'm hoping SRAM sells the same too. 

i noticed that too, not sure if that was just a pic for the ad? it did state "20 sets coming in".... 

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3/11/2025 2:45pm
jonkranked wrote:

i noticed that too, not sure if that was just a pic for the ad? it did state "20 sets coming in".... 

I vaguely recall they made 1000 of the red. FWIW

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3/11/2025 2:54pm
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It's not about me not valuing my safety, but rather about the cost of stuff. So many helmets that go on sale on a regular basis...

It's not about me not valuing my safety, but rather about the cost of stuff. So many helmets that go on sale on a regular basis, there's no way I'm spending $240 on any helmet (maybe a full face?). When I find something that fits properly, I'll wait until it goes on sale. For example, POC has 40-50% off sales on a regular basis. Why would I pay full price?

The cost of many helmets has become quite high, looking at the new Forefront 3 and Fox Speedframe RS (both over $300 CAD). My biggest qualm...

The cost of many helmets has become quite high, looking at the new Forefront 3 and Fox Speedframe RS (both over $300 CAD). My biggest qualm with new helmets is the lack of a built-in spot to mount a helmet light. I have the Forefront 2 that needs replacing, but I am struggling to find something with this feature. I love the look of the new non-RS Fox Speedframe (and its safety rating), but I emailed asking if they made an in-house light mount, and they directed me to a Blackburn gift guide. At least most new helmets come with a glasses storage solution, which I can get behind. 

I do wonder about the difference in safety between the independently conducted Virginia tests versus taking Smith's word. I think it was mentioned a couple of pages back that you only need to send in 5 helmets to get them tested? 

I've noticed the same thing. The last helmet I had with a dedicated light/camera mount was a Bell Sixer, and that's been several years. On my...

I've noticed the same thing. The last helmet I had with a dedicated light/camera mount was a Bell Sixer, and that's been several years. On my last couple helmets, I put a GoPro mount on the under side of the visor for an Outbound Hangover light. It's compact enough that it doesn't impair my vision and light enough that it doesn't pull the helmet or visor down. 

I believe the reason helmet companies no longer do manufacturer-made mounts on the top of helmets is safety/liability. Adding something to the top of the helmet can drastically change its safety performance, and I bet the legal team said no more. 

BTW I just use a glue on go pro mount and attach whatever light I want. 

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3/11/2025 4:05pm
iceman2058 wrote:

More new goods dropping today, this time it's that new stem from Race Face: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/race-face-introduces-all-ne….

Not a dig at Vital but more at stem makers, since so much emphasis there is on the look of the stem (we do look at them a lot during climbing), please list the length that is pictured. The 60mm is kinda obvious but sometime the look of the 50 and 40mm option varies greatly and can be hard to spot which is which in press photo without captions.

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3/11/2025 4:25pm
schowny wrote:
Won’t let me post a pic but I guess sram are releasing the colourway that’s been spotted on the motive brakes. $980 CAD for the set...
Won’t let me post a pic but I guess sram are releasing the colourway that’s been spotted on the motive brakes. $980 CAD for the set and I would assume it’ll be the same package deals as the maven ultimates that were released a while back: https://www.facebook.com/share/1BSMoLS8Em/?mibextid=79PoIi
jonkranked wrote:
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Lever looks used. My guess is a pros take off? Red limited edition was less $ for more, I'm hoping SRAM sells the same too. 

If anyone at SRAM has a sense of humor, they're going to drop these things on Easter.  

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3/11/2025 4:28pm

New 36 forks gotta be coming soon…. 36s on close out at Jenson 

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3/11/2025 4:39pm Edited Date/Time 3/11/2025 5:11pm
iceman2058 wrote:

More new goods dropping today, this time it's that new stem from Race Face: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/race-face-introduces-all-ne….

1llumA wrote:
Not a dig at Vital but more at stem makers, since so much emphasis there is on the look of the stem (we do look at...

Not a dig at Vital but more at stem makers, since so much emphasis there is on the look of the stem (we do look at them a lot during climbing), please list the length that is pictured. The 60mm is kinda obvious but sometime the look of the 50 and 40mm option varies greatly and can be hard to spot which is which in press photo without captions.

RaceFace's website shows each length and each color as selected in the drop-down menu.

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3/11/2025 7:54pm
jonkranked wrote:
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image 228.png?VersionId=4LoWtQt9XPL6cIO584cuaqAX

Lever looks used. My guess is a pros take off? Red limited edition was less $ for more, I'm hoping SRAM sells the same too. 

If anyone at SRAM has a sense of humor, they're going to drop these things on Easter.  

If anyone at SRAM has a sense of humor, they're going to drop these things on Easter.  

image 228.png?VersionId=4LoWtQt9XPL6cIO584cuaqAX

These are a limited edition in the same way as the red ones were, you'll get all the same things with these as you got with the red ones. Probably more money than the red ones were #inflationstation

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3/11/2025 11:59pm

New 36 forks gotta be coming soon…. 36s on close out at Jenson 

fox has a firesale on 36s u. float X2s, new gen must be close.

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3/12/2025 5:47am
iceman2058 wrote:

More new goods dropping today, this time it's that new stem from Race Face: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/race-face-introduces-all-ne….

1llumA wrote:
Not a dig at Vital but more at stem makers, since so much emphasis there is on the look of the stem (we do look at...

Not a dig at Vital but more at stem makers, since so much emphasis there is on the look of the stem (we do look at them a lot during climbing), please list the length that is pictured. The 60mm is kinda obvious but sometime the look of the 50 and 40mm option varies greatly and can be hard to spot which is which in press photo without captions.

in that case the shorter one is the 40mm

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3/12/2025 6:53am

Something new is coming from Pivot, Firebird?IMG 7315 0.jpeg?VersionId=PskIH8WUYQOrhv kzBUsByDAgYJNK

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3/12/2025 9:13am

Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable. The new frames are available in either Ti or aluminum. Geo looks good. Pricing is reasonable.

Esker Cycles Releases the Howdy and Woodsy Full-Suspension Bikes In Aluminum and Titanium

Radavist had a good intro (sorry @sspomer) https://theradavist.com/esker-cycles-howdy-and-woodsy-full-suspension-b…

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3/12/2025 9:33am
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Something new is coming from Pivot, Firebird?

Something new is coming from Pivot, Firebird?IMG 7315 0.jpeg?VersionId=PskIH8WUYQOrhv kzBUsByDAgYJNK

No two chainz…🤯

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3/12/2025 9:46am

OnlyMotion has launched a Kickstarter campaign for their electronic conversion kit for mechanical droppers. 

More info - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onlymotion/worlds-first-electronic-conversion-for-dropper-post 

I know this concept was discussed a few pages ago. I appreciate the effort to create something that doesn't exist. I also don't mind the extra cable at my cockpit for a mechanical dropper. I guess if you really want electronic/wireless without having to run the new gen of wireless droppers that look terrible with the battery at the collar, this is for you haha 

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Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable...

Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable. The new frames are available in either Ti or aluminum. Geo looks good. Pricing is reasonable.

Esker Cycles Releases the Howdy and Woodsy Full-Suspension Bikes In Aluminum and Titanium

Radavist had a good intro (sorry @sspomer) https://theradavist.com/esker-cycles-howdy-and-woodsy-full-suspension-b…

Looks killer. For shocks. 

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sspomer wrote:
no need to reply to this or talk more about this in tech rumors...just giving you all a head's up. if there are problems, hit...

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no need to reply to this or talk more about this in tech rumors...just giving you all a head's up. if there are problems, hit...

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3/12/2025 11:19am Edited Date/Time 3/12/2025 11:20am
Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable...

Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable. The new frames are available in either Ti or aluminum. Geo looks good. Pricing is reasonable.

Esker Cycles Releases the Howdy and Woodsy Full-Suspension Bikes In Aluminum and Titanium

Radavist had a good intro (sorry @sspomer) https://theradavist.com/esker-cycles-howdy-and-woodsy-full-suspension-b…

Primoz wrote:

Looks killer. For shocks. 

The angle the clevis connects to the rear triangle is definitely weird, but if I remember correctly esker uses a DW design called Orbit or something so I doubt the side loading was completely ignored. 

Correction : the platform is called Orion suspension, marginally more pretentious 

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The timing of the forum changes and Bizutch's return are suspicious... 🤔

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3/12/2025 1:17pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2025 1:18pm
OnlyMotion has launched a Kickstarter campaign for their electronic conversion kit for mechanical droppers. More info - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onlymotion/worlds-first-electronic-conversion-for-dropper-post I know this concept was discussed a few pages...

OnlyMotion has launched a Kickstarter campaign for their electronic conversion kit for mechanical droppers. 

More info - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onlymotion/worlds-first-electronic-conversion-for-dropper-post 

I know this concept was discussed a few pages ago. I appreciate the effort to create something that doesn't exist. I also don't mind the extra cable at my cockpit for a mechanical dropper. I guess if you really want electronic/wireless without having to run the new gen of wireless droppers that look terrible with the battery at the collar, this is for you haha 

Looks awesome, but with so many dropper length options and shims isn't it possible for everyone except freakishly tall riders to get their max drop? Personally wouldn't sacrifice 28-35mm of drop (Type A and B bikes Santa Cruz, Trek, Spesh, etc) and $180 just for electronic actuation. (could be good on 170mm+ park bikes where at max drop the tire might hit the seat tho) 

Electronic droppers feel like blockchain. A solution desperately searching for a problem. 

Give me a wirelessly actuated Siwtchgrade and now we're talkin.

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3/12/2025 1:47pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2025 1:53pm
samnation wrote:
These are a limited edition in the same way as the red ones were, you'll get all the same things with these as you got with...

These are a limited edition in the same way as the red ones were, you'll get all the same things with these as you got with the red ones. Probably more money than the red ones were #inflationstation

To be fair, the red ultimates they released in that package with four rotors, that sweet zipper rotor bag, adapters, both types of pads, and a Pro bleed kit was an insane value. It was probably $1100 worth of stuff, so I would be shocked if they didn't raise the price if they choose to sell another bundle. It cost the same thing as buying just brakes.

SRAM Maven Ultimate Expert Kit silber / rot Splash - RTF Bikeparts

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sspomer wrote:
no need to reply to this or talk more about this in tech rumors...just giving you all a head's up. if there are problems, hit...

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3/12/2025 2:21pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
To be fair, the red ultimates they released in that package with four rotors, that sweet zipper rotor bag, adapters, both types of pads, and a...

To be fair, the red ultimates they released in that package with four rotors, that sweet zipper rotor bag, adapters, both types of pads, and a Pro bleed kit was an insane value. It was probably $1100 worth of stuff, so I would be shocked if they didn't raise the price if they choose to sell another bundle. It cost the same thing as buying just brakes.

SRAM Maven Ultimate Expert Kit silber / rot Splash - RTF Bikeparts

I still kick myself for not getting more than 1 set. I watch them on ebay selling for 1k. 

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3/12/2025 2:32pm
Looks awesome, but with so many dropper length options and shims isn't it possible for everyone except freakishly tall riders to get their max drop? Personally...

Looks awesome, but with so many dropper length options and shims isn't it possible for everyone except freakishly tall riders to get their max drop? Personally wouldn't sacrifice 28-35mm of drop (Type A and B bikes Santa Cruz, Trek, Spesh, etc) and $180 just for electronic actuation. (could be good on 170mm+ park bikes where at max drop the tire might hit the seat tho) 

Electronic droppers feel like blockchain. A solution desperately searching for a problem. 

Give me a wirelessly actuated Siwtchgrade and now we're talkin.

Personally I wouldn't sacrifice anything just for electronic actuation. I wouldn't sacrifice anything for electronic anything haha. 

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3/12/2025 2:34pm
sspomer wrote:
no need to reply to this or talk more about this in tech rumors...just giving you all a head's up. if there are problems, hit...

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Is there an incident(s) thats triggered this? One of the things i love about this site is that I've never even thought about the need for this. Even the incidents like a certain bike company that only sells mullet configuration's product launch was so much fun that I'd never want that blocked. 

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3/12/2025 2:37pm
samnation wrote:
These are a limited edition in the same way as the red ones were, you'll get all the same things with these as you got with...

These are a limited edition in the same way as the red ones were, you'll get all the same things with these as you got with the red ones. Probably more money than the red ones were #inflationstation

TEAMROBOT wrote:
To be fair, the red ultimates they released in that package with four rotors, that sweet zipper rotor bag, adapters, both types of pads, and a...

To be fair, the red ultimates they released in that package with four rotors, that sweet zipper rotor bag, adapters, both types of pads, and a Pro bleed kit was an insane value. It was probably $1100 worth of stuff, so I would be shocked if they didn't raise the price if they choose to sell another bundle. It cost the same thing as buying just brakes.

SRAM Maven Ultimate Expert Kit silber / rot Splash - RTF Bikeparts

i remember pricing out all the rotors & accessories when it was announced. it was such a screaming deal i had to get one.  still sitting in a box. but now i have a new frame for them to go on.

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3/12/2025 3:57pm
Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable...

Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable. The new frames are available in either Ti or aluminum. Geo looks good. Pricing is reasonable.

Esker Cycles Releases the Howdy and Woodsy Full-Suspension Bikes In Aluminum and Titanium

Radavist had a good intro (sorry @sspomer) https://theradavist.com/esker-cycles-howdy-and-woodsy-full-suspension-b…

Diamondback Release with straight tubes anyone?

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3/12/2025 4:00pm
Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable...

Anyone ridden and Esker? I wasn't a fan of their (or anyone's) swoopy carbon frames, but IIRC the handful of reviews I saw were generally favorable. The new frames are available in either Ti or aluminum. Geo looks good. Pricing is reasonable.

Esker Cycles Releases the Howdy and Woodsy Full-Suspension Bikes In Aluminum and Titanium

Radavist had a good intro (sorry @sspomer) https://theradavist.com/esker-cycles-howdy-and-woodsy-full-suspension-b…

Primoz wrote:

Looks killer. For shocks. 

Eae903 wrote:
The angle the clevis connects to the rear triangle is definitely weird, but if I remember correctly esker uses a DW design called Orbit or something...

The angle the clevis connects to the rear triangle is definitely weird, but if I remember correctly esker uses a DW design called Orbit or something so I doubt the side loading was completely ignored. 

Correction : the platform is called Orion suspension, marginally more pretentious 

Orbit Bar is from Arid bikes IIRC

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