I don't have any idea. Could be logical, hopefully we'll see it soon.Two further close photos (see e.g. the '12s' text). The cages seems to be...
I don't have any idea. Could be logical, hopefully we'll see it soon.
Two further close photos (see e.g. the '12s' text). The cages seems to be different length on the two (?). Eagle-eyed people here might see some further important info, propably.
Most likely the short cage version can also be branded as GRX Di2 where 10-45 is a popular option unlike on the mtb. The branding on the crank doesn't look great IMO and it seems that XTR is back on the normal Hollowtech II axle setup connected to the DS arm like current XT/SLX/Deore.
Also looks like there is a new clutch system ? Shadowtech II ? There is no visible flip lever and no 2mm port for adjusting tension on those pictures.
Most likely the short cage version can also be branded as GRX Di2 where 10-45 is a popular option unlike on the mtb. The branding on...
Most likely the short cage version can also be branded as GRX Di2 where 10-45 is a popular option unlike on the mtb. The branding on the crank doesn't look great IMO and it seems that XTR is back on the normal Hollowtech II axle setup connected to the DS arm like current XT/SLX/Deore.
Also looks like there is a new clutch system ? Shadowtech II ? There is no visible flip lever and no 2mm port for adjusting tension on those pictures.
The clutch adjustment port has always seemed a bit off and a weakpoint where moisture and dirt can enter... And honestly how often do you adjust the clutch? Not that often and for that occasion you can open the cover via 3 bolts and also quickly check its state.
Yup,, I posted that a good 12 months ago. XTR and XT will have a trail/enduro and XC version, with heavier cranks/brakes/wheels for the enduro flavor. And...
Yup,, I posted that a good 12 months ago. XTR and XT will have a trail/enduro and XC version, with heavier cranks/brakes/wheels for the enduro flavor.
Yup,, I posted that a good 12 months ago. XTR and XT will have a trail/enduro and XC version, with heavier cranks/brakes/wheels for the enduro flavor. And...
Yup,, I posted that a good 12 months ago. XTR and XT will have a trail/enduro and XC version, with heavier cranks/brakes/wheels for the enduro flavor.
And they will be 13-speed.
you saw a catalog over a year ago, seems your 13 speed info appears to be outdated. give it up.
Anyone want to fill me in on what I missed with the pulled Fox post? 😁
some info was gleaned about an upcoming fox fork. it apparently has travel, an axle, and a steerer tube. the information was apparently correct, which is why its gone.
some info was gleaned about an upcoming fox fork. it apparently has travel, an axle, and a steerer tube. the information was apparently correct, which is...
some info was gleaned about an upcoming fox fork. it apparently has travel, an axle, and a steerer tube. the information was apparently correct, which is why its gone.
final question regarding this topic:
got the info/pics of the new 36 removed or the rumor about a 170mm USD fork called podium?
some info was gleaned about an upcoming fox fork. it apparently has travel, an axle, and a steerer tube. the information was apparently correct, which is...
some info was gleaned about an upcoming fox fork. it apparently has travel, an axle, and a steerer tube. the information was apparently correct, which is why its gone.
final question regarding this topic:got the info/pics of the new 36 removed or the rumor about a 170mm USD fork called podium?sorry, to lazy to sift...
final question regarding this topic:
got the info/pics of the new 36 removed or the rumor about a 170mm USD fork called podium?
sorry, to lazy to sift through the old pages
I cant remember if the original post said USD or that was insinuated based on the other rumors. But it was referencing a long travel single crown with beefy headtube and 20m axel.
Tech: what appears to be a flip chip on the main pivot of the proto Session.
Tech: what appears to be a flip chip on the main pivot of the proto Session.
Also 2 different spots for the lower shock mount. Any idea what kinematic theyd be changing by moving the main pivot up and down that much? Thats like high pivot and even higher pivot
Also 2 different spots for the lower shock mount. Any idea what kinematic theyd be changing by moving the main pivot up and down that much...
Also 2 different spots for the lower shock mount. Any idea what kinematic theyd be changing by moving the main pivot up and down that much? Thats like high pivot and even higher pivot
That's pretty much exactly it. You'll affect the axle path and CS growth by moving the main pivot. Moving hte lower shock mount will tune progression.
Also 2 different spots for the lower shock mount. Any idea what kinematic theyd be changing by moving the main pivot up and down that much...
Also 2 different spots for the lower shock mount. Any idea what kinematic theyd be changing by moving the main pivot up and down that much? Thats like high pivot and even higher pivot
The Session rocker has a pinch bolt to clamp down on the axle in order to provide some more torsional stiffness. The rocker is just 2 separate plates with no bridge in between them. Without the pinch bolt the two plates would likely be able to rotate one against another (and possibly untighten the bolt too).
As for the antisquat and antirise changing with changing pivot location, antisquat yes, antirise probably not that much as it's a split pivot.
Current Gen XTR/XT/SLX all have a 10-45 Hyperglide+ 12 speed cassette option since their launch. It's also the same cassette that are used for current mechanical GRX 12 speed 1x with medium cage derailleur.
The weightweenies thread that was linked earlier with the XTR Di2 is now updated with the new XTR brakes as well. Looks nicehttps://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=171477&start=60
The weightweenies thread that was linked earlier with the XTR Di2 is now updated with the new XTR brakes as well. Looks nice
Current Gen XTR/XT/SLX all have a 10-45 Hyperglide+ 12 speed cassette option since their launch. It's also the same cassette that are used for current mechanical...
Current Gen XTR/XT/SLX all have a 10-45 Hyperglide+ 12 speed cassette option since their launch. It's also the same cassette that are used for current mechanical GRX 12 speed 1x with medium cage derailleur.
Great to have this option
Only a vertical wall climb requires a 51t on an e bike. And on my hardtail, which mostly just is used for shorter trail rides, I run a 11-42 and rarely use the 42. Some of us would rather a tight spread than wide range
BITD I ran a 11-32 with a 34 up front and never had any issues. Kids these days 🤔
Just noticed that Bulldog’s jersey has a huge DJI sponsor front and center. Could it mean an Ari eeb with a DJI motor at some point? After all, I don’t think he’ll be riding the new Forbidden DJI bike.
Just noticed that Bulldog’s jersey has a huge DJI sponsor front and center. Could it mean an Ari eeb with a DJI motor at some point...
Just noticed that Bulldog’s jersey has a huge DJI sponsor front and center. Could it mean an Ari eeb with a DJI motor at some point? After all, I don’t think he’ll be riding the new Forbidden DJI bike.
Could be, but he could also be using DJI action cameras, they make a pretty good gopro style camera.
Saw the new upcoming turbo levo out in the trail today. Passed by me so just enough visual to know it was a turbo levo and with no upper crossbar by the shock. Can’t say much else or specialized might take my post down
The Session rocker has a pinch bolt to clamp down on the axle in order to provide some more torsional stiffness. The rocker is just 2...
The Session rocker has a pinch bolt to clamp down on the axle in order to provide some more torsional stiffness. The rocker is just 2 separate plates with no bridge in between them. Without the pinch bolt the two plates would likely be able to rotate one against another (and possibly untighten the bolt too).
As for the antisquat and antirise changing with changing pivot location, antisquat yes, antirise probably not that much as it's a split pivot.
I'm glad you're here. I barely need to post. You keep writing exactly what I am about to.
Current Gen XTR/XT/SLX all have a 10-45 Hyperglide+ 12 speed cassette option since their launch. It's also the same cassette that are used for current mechanical...
Current Gen XTR/XT/SLX all have a 10-45 Hyperglide+ 12 speed cassette option since their launch. It's also the same cassette that are used for current mechanical GRX 12 speed 1x with medium cage derailleur.
Great to have this optionOnly a vertical wall climb requires a 51t on an e bike. And on my hardtail, which mostly just is used for...
Great to have this option
Only a vertical wall climb requires a 51t on an e bike. And on my hardtail, which mostly just is used for shorter trail rides, I run a 11-42 and rarely use the 42. Some of us would rather a tight spread than wide range
BITD I ran a 11-32 with a 34 up front and never had any issues. Kids these days 🤔
As I say to everybody with a view like yours, come to Slovenia. We have a few climbs here where it's likely you'll be wishing for a 28t ring up front to replace the 30t on your bike to pair up with that wide range, 50+ tooth cassette out back.
There are some people that can push insane gear ratios everywhere, but they are far an in between. There are different terrains around the world requiring different approaches. But overall, for most people, wide range cassettes are a benefit, not a negative. Having more options is great, but catering to a small percentage (a loud percentage, but still small) is something few companies will do...
At least the front didn't fall off
https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=AXpWr92HdF_hcw_m
Most likely the short cage version can also be branded as GRX Di2 where 10-45 is a popular option unlike on the mtb. The branding on the crank doesn't look great IMO and it seems that XTR is back on the normal Hollowtech II axle setup connected to the DS arm like current XT/SLX/Deore.
Also looks like there is a new clutch system ? Shadowtech II ? There is no visible flip lever and no 2mm port for adjusting tension on those pictures.
The clutch adjustment port has always seemed a bit off and a weakpoint where moisture and dirt can enter... And honestly how often do you adjust the clutch? Not that often and for that occasion you can open the cover via 3 bolts and also quickly check its state.
12sp 10-45 cassette? 🤔
you saw a catalog over a year ago, seems your 13 speed info appears to be outdated. give it up.
some info was gleaned about an upcoming fox fork. it apparently has travel, an axle, and a steerer tube. the information was apparently correct, which is why its gone.
final question regarding this topic:
got the info/pics of the new 36 removed or the rumor about a 170mm USD fork called podium?
sorry, to lazy to sift through the old pages
I cant remember if the original post said USD or that was insinuated based on the other rumors. But it was referencing a long travel single crown with beefy headtube and 20m axel.
light on tech but high on fun (and putting here b/c half of you never go to the homepage : )
our dirt jump bike test sesh - https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/6-dirt-jumpers-tested-and-compared-vital-mtb-test-sessions
Tech: what appears to be a flip chip on the main pivot of the proto Session.
Also 2 different spots for the lower shock mount. Any idea what kinematic theyd be changing by moving the main pivot up and down that much? Thats like high pivot and even higher pivot
That's pretty much exactly it. You'll affect the axle path and CS growth by moving the main pivot. Moving hte lower shock mount will tune progression.
Why is the central rocker pivot split? Does it pinch down to prevent the bolt from backing out?
Also anti squat & anti rise - would increase both of them quite a lot
Looks like it has a bolt in it from the bottom to clamp it down on the pivot bolt. Maybe to prevent any slight side to side movement.
Possibly to allow you to preload the bearings properly, and not crush them since it doesn't look like there is a brace between the 2 rockers
The weightweenies thread that was linked earlier with the XTR Di2 is now updated with the new XTR brakes as well. Looks nice

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=171477&start=60
The Session rocker has a pinch bolt to clamp down on the axle in order to provide some more torsional stiffness. The rocker is just 2 separate plates with no bridge in between them. Without the pinch bolt the two plates would likely be able to rotate one against another (and possibly untighten the bolt too).
As for the antisquat and antirise changing with changing pivot location, antisquat yes, antirise probably not that much as it's a split pivot.
There's a home page?
not gonna start a brake discussion, but i think it’s interesting that lachie is also riding centerline rotors with mavens, same as vali hoell.
Current Gen XTR/XT/SLX all have a 10-45 Hyperglide+ 12 speed cassette option since their launch. It's also the same cassette that are used for current mechanical GRX 12 speed 1x with medium cage derailleur.
I am wandering how pointy the bite is going to be.
Because the Mavens are very powerful and the Centreline rotors take some of that bite away.
Great to have this option
Only a vertical wall climb requires a 51t on an e bike. And on my hardtail, which mostly just is used for shorter trail rides, I run a 11-42 and rarely use the 42. Some of us would rather a tight spread than wide range
BITD I ran a 11-32 with a 34 up front and never had any issues. Kids these days 🤔
Just noticed that Bulldog’s jersey has a huge DJI sponsor front and center. Could it mean an Ari eeb with a DJI motor at some point? After all, I don’t think he’ll be riding the new Forbidden DJI bike.
Could be, but he could also be using DJI action cameras, they make a pretty good gopro style camera.
Saw the new upcoming turbo levo out in the trail today. Passed by me so just enough visual to know it was a turbo levo and with no upper crossbar by the shock. Can’t say much else or specialized might take my post down
Does anyone have a date for a shimano release? Rumours last year from Shimano Rep was feb but not sure now?
I'm glad you're here. I barely need to post. You keep writing exactly what I am about to.
As I say to everybody with a view like yours, come to Slovenia. We have a few climbs here where it's likely you'll be wishing for a 28t ring up front to replace the 30t on your bike to pair up with that wide range, 50+ tooth cassette out back.
There are some people that can push insane gear ratios everywhere, but they are far an in between. There are different terrains around the world requiring different approaches. But overall, for most people, wide range cassettes are a benefit, not a negative. Having more options is great, but catering to a small percentage (a loud percentage, but still small) is something few companies will do...