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What I took away from this Charlie is that you’re still riding 175mm cranks 

ALL DAY

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1/31/2025 6:57pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2025 6:58pm

All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just marveling how they knocked it out of the park 6 years ago (sb150 basically same) and have been able to just sit back and print money since then, maintaining consumer awareness purely through their race sponsorships. 

I wonder how long they will be able to go without a refresh...

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bermed wrote:
All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just...

All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just marveling how they knocked it out of the park 6 years ago (sb150 basically same) and have been able to just sit back and print money since then, maintaining consumer awareness purely through their race sponsorships. 

I wonder how long they will be able to go without a refresh...

Big changes will be happening across yetis sb line but haven’t heard timeline yet

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1/31/2025 8:44pm
saskskier wrote:

Confirmation about the new aluminum, fs, freeride/park bike came from my shop today. 

The Signature (slope hardtail bike) was announced a while ago.  

Sorry about that, while I've heard the rumors I stay out of stuff unless I've got links/data to back it available to everyone. Exxxx Cycles dropped the new S90 drivetrain and it's been out on an indexed page but not linked on their site for a while now. Thats the stuff that i understand the red site listed the patent for. If it makes up for any perceived shortcomings on the chromag bits? 

Keep an eye on bikeinn, I believe they're a distro but also do consumer sales. Seems they took down their reverb listing but we may have a new longest drop contender. 

 

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1/31/2025 8:45pm
New brakes, coming out soon from famous ( B )rake company in collab with american ( S )upreme bike company.

New brakes, coming out soon from famous ( B )rake company in collab with american ( S )upreme bike company.Famous-brake-company-american-mtb-2

Famous-brake-company-american-mtb

Very interesting! I'd have my money on 5Dev but it doesn't match the hints.

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bermed wrote:
All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just...

All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just marveling how they knocked it out of the park 6 years ago (sb150 basically same) and have been able to just sit back and print money since then, maintaining consumer awareness purely through their race sponsorships. 

I wonder how long they will be able to go without a refresh...

Trocko wrote:

Big changes will be happening across yetis sb line but haven’t heard timeline yet

usually not before summer/fall 2026 and i guess at least the longer travel bikes (140 onwards) could get the six-finity system from their e-bike and DH-proto replacing the switch-infinity.

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2/1/2025 5:39am
Simcik wrote:
Not really a rumor but perhaps an innovation, but could see these being popular with the no drivetrain Whistler crowd and folks who have a pumptrack...

Not really a rumor but perhaps an innovation, but could see these being popular with the no drivetrain Whistler crowd and folks who have a pumptrack only kinda bike. Paging Remy Morton

MOTOCRANX

Nah dude, those crancks are still way to long... 

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ex-ballz wrote:

O/T Is there a consensus on what the correct foot forward is?

In a turn situation requiring lean? Yes. Otherwise? No. 

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ex-ballz wrote:

O/T Is there a consensus on what the correct foot forward is?

yzedf wrote:

In a turn situation requiring lean? Yes. Otherwise? No. 

Which one is it then?

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New brakes, coming out soon from famous ( B )rake company in collab with american ( S )upreme bike company.

New brakes, coming out soon from famous ( B )rake company in collab with american ( S )upreme bike company.Famous-brake-company-american-mtb-2

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Lacanuck24 wrote:

Very interesting! I'd have my money on 5Dev but it doesn't match the hints.

Brembo Specialized? 

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2/1/2025 7:49am
New brakes, coming out soon from famous ( B )rake company in collab with american ( S )upreme bike company.

New brakes, coming out soon from famous ( B )rake company in collab with american ( S )upreme bike company.Famous-brake-company-american-mtb-2

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Lacanuck24 wrote:

Very interesting! I'd have my money on 5Dev but it doesn't match the hints.

gx wrote:

Brembo Specialized? 

Make's sense after Brembo bought Ohlins

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video of the zoceli vysoko in action (only a photo was posted the other day)

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ex-ballz wrote:

O/T Is there a consensus on what the correct foot forward is?

yzedf wrote:

In a turn situation requiring lean? Yes. Otherwise? No. 

ex-ballz wrote:

Which one is it then?

https://youtu.be/udOUZ_T9-6I

I’ll let Brendog answer that

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https://youtu.be/udOUZ_T9-6I

I’ll let Brendog answer that

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I see your gearbox/belt/chain talk and raise you an enclosed primary chain with secondary "standard" drivetrain!  This is cool:https://www.zoceli.cz/en/vysoko

I see your gearbox/belt/chain talk and raise you an enclosed primary chain with secondary "standard" drivetrain!  This is cool:

https://www.zoceli.cz/en/vysoko

Maybe this is a dumb question. But can someone answer me why we still use yokes in this fashion where the eyelet/hole is vertical and not horizontal? Or does someone have the patent for a yoke that does this? I remember watching the Starling Bikes and Ohlins video about the Tiguan and they discuss how brutal yokes can be. So why does the yoke not twist to have a horizontal orientation? If this is a dumb question Ill fully accept the insults to the chin. 

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Push something with a (bike) chain. This is what compressing a shock with the eyelets oriented in the same plane would be like. It would just buckle. 

Yokes are the death of shocks because of sideloads. The front of the shock is (side to side) solidly mounted but the eyelet can cause loads from the side. The problem is the leverage exerted on the shock is higher because of the length of the yoke vs. The shock being mounted directly to a rocker. 

One solution to this would be how Pole mounted the shock, rotated 90 degrees sideways on both sides so you basically have a universal join on both sides and the shock can rotate left to right instead of grenading itself. 

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2/1/2025 10:09am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 10:09am
Primoz wrote:
Push something with a (bike) chain. This is what compressing a shock with the eyelets oriented in the same plane would be like. It would just...

Push something with a (bike) chain. This is what compressing a shock with the eyelets oriented in the same plane would be like. It would just buckle. 

Yokes are the death of shocks because of sideloads. The front of the shock is (side to side) solidly mounted but the eyelet can cause loads from the side. The problem is the leverage exerted on the shock is higher because of the length of the yoke vs. The shock being mounted directly to a rocker. 

One solution to this would be how Pole mounted the shock, rotated 90 degrees sideways on both sides so you basically have a universal join on both sides and the shock can rotate left to right instead of grenading itself. 

Ah the chain example helps a lot. Thanks for that.

That is a good work around for pole. I always wondered why they did that. 

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While the shock does stick out quite a bit more either side and for an air shock the damper body is a bit more exposed, you also do get a lot more clearance inside the main frame to mount a water bottle cage and a big water bottle.

2/1/2025 11:31am
MTBrent wrote:
I see your gearbox/belt/chain talk and raise you an enclosed primary chain with secondary "standard" drivetrain!  This is cool:https://www.zoceli.cz/en/vysoko

I see your gearbox/belt/chain talk and raise you an enclosed primary chain with secondary "standard" drivetrain!  This is cool:

https://www.zoceli.cz/en/vysoko

Maybe this is a dumb question. But can someone answer me why we still use yokes in this fashion where the eyelet/hole is vertical and not...

Maybe this is a dumb question. But can someone answer me why we still use yokes in this fashion where the eyelet/hole is vertical and not horizontal? Or does someone have the patent for a yoke that does this? I remember watching the Starling Bikes and Ohlins video about the Tiguan and they discuss how brutal yokes can be. So why does the yoke not twist to have a horizontal orientation? If this is a dumb question Ill fully accept the insults to the chin. 

The yoke and shock would both assume the shortest possible orientation. For lack of better terminology, it would fold like origami.

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Wonder what this means for the 38 since it supposedly isnt getting these new lowers. Maybe fox wants to be on trend and go USD. 

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2/1/2025 4:20pm
gx wrote:

Brembo Specialized? 

Brembolized

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2/1/2025 4:46pm
gx wrote:

Brembo Specialized? 

jonkranked wrote:

Brembolized

Correction...

BrembOhlized

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2/1/2025 4:48pm
gx wrote:

Brembo Specialized? 

jonkranked wrote:

Brembolized

I like Spembo

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Primoz wrote:
While the shock does stick out quite a bit more either side and for an air shock the damper body is a bit more exposed, you...

While the shock does stick out quite a bit more either side and for an air shock the damper body is a bit more exposed, you also do get a lot more clearance inside the main frame to mount a water bottle cage and a big water bottle.

If only someone would invent a way to mount the reservoir remotely we could solve all these problems…

/old guy thread

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2/1/2025 6:19pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2025 6:21pm
JVP wrote:

If only someone would invent a way to mount the reservoir remotely we could solve all these problems…

/old guy thread

R&D department must have amnesia 

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bermed wrote:
All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just...

All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just marveling how they knocked it out of the park 6 years ago (sb150 basically same) and have been able to just sit back and print money since then, maintaining consumer awareness purely through their race sponsorships. 

I wonder how long they will be able to go without a refresh...

Trocko wrote:

Big changes will be happening across yetis sb line but haven’t heard timeline yet

well don't hold back on us, what kind of updates are we talking about here? Pray tell...

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bermed wrote:
All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just...

All these new bikes coming out, but is Yeti ever gonna update the SB160? I don't see any reason why they would tbh. I was just marveling how they knocked it out of the park 6 years ago (sb150 basically same) and have been able to just sit back and print money since then, maintaining consumer awareness purely through their race sponsorships. 

I wonder how long they will be able to go without a refresh...

Trocko wrote:

Big changes will be happening across yetis sb line but haven’t heard timeline yet

2supple wrote:

well don't hold back on us, what kind of updates are we talking about here? Pray tell...

Swapping all of the bikes away from the switch infinity link to the 6 bar on their ebike maybe? 

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2/1/2025 11:19pm
krabo83 wrote:
usually not before summer/fall 2026 and i guess at least the longer travel bikes (140 onwards) could get the six-finity system from their e-bike and DH-proto...

usually not before summer/fall 2026 and i guess at least the longer travel bikes (140 onwards) could get the six-finity system from their e-bike and DH-proto replacing the switch-infinity.

Sixfinity was AFAIK created to emulate Switch Infinity when a motor is taking the space. So I doubt Sixfinity going on bikes. 

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krabo83 wrote:
usually not before summer/fall 2026 and i guess at least the longer travel bikes (140 onwards) could get the six-finity system from their e-bike and DH-proto...

usually not before summer/fall 2026 and i guess at least the longer travel bikes (140 onwards) could get the six-finity system from their e-bike and DH-proto replacing the switch-infinity.

baronKanon wrote:

Sixfinity was AFAIK created to emulate Switch Infinity when a motor is taking the space. So I doubt Sixfinity going on bikes. 

Yeti DH bike entered the chat. 

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