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11/18/2023 3:39pm
Primoz wrote:

Yeah, this one doesn't look like it has Al tubes. Also, looks kinda like the top tube and down tube are not round?

Gravy boat doesn’t look to be carbon.

IMG 9614.jpeg?VersionId=RaY5x8Ng4Ud4Sy

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Primoz
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11/18/2023 3:40pm

Never was. 

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Primoz wrote:

Never was. 

Correct. So either this is mixed like the proto or more likely just aluminum.

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11/18/2023 5:24pm

The new Demo/Enduro probably rides amazing but I will be really surprised if it sells as well as the outgoing model, just based on asthetics alone

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11/18/2023 8:21pm

No Mudslayer tire coming from Maxxis. 

airwreck wrote:
Been hoping to hear more about that proto tire Shorty v3 HRIII. It's the season for this to hit the market. Loved the V1 shorty (2.5...

Been hoping to hear more about that proto tire Shorty v3 HRIII. It's the season for this to hit the market. Loved the V1 shorty (2.5 maxxgip dh) in the loose/loam but lacked versatility, V2 (2.4 DD MG) was kind of a let down, lighter rolled better but missed the V1 cornering fun, Wild Enduro looked good but I didn't fall in love with it, considering the Tacky Chan but it's not checking off all the boxes. Funny all the tires I try and keep going back to DHF DHRII.

Gotta wait a bit longer, I’m afraid. Definitely not going to be on sale this season. 
 

I keep going going back to the Minions myself although I’m usually on a dual DHR setup. 

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11/19/2023 9:25am
Primoz wrote:

Yeah, this one doesn't look like it has Al tubes. Also, looks kinda like the top tube and down tube are not round?

chriskief wrote:
Gravy boat doesn’t look to be carbon.

Gravy boat doesn’t look to be carbon.

IMG 9614.jpeg?VersionId=RaY5x8Ng4Ud4Sy

The links appear to be new. I dont know what the bar is technically called but it has a more aggressive bend in it than the painted one. IMG 4977

11/19/2023 5:08pm

The new Demo/Enduro probably rides amazing but I will be really surprised if it sells as well as the outgoing model, just based on asthetics alone

I think it's the exact opposite. Which is a big reason they stopped/did one short run of production of the updated Enduro with UDH on it. They know that this low slung design will get people super eager to buy. The performance and looks will be top notch, especially when it's finalized with carbon, etc. 

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11/19/2023 8:31pm

The new Demo/Enduro probably rides amazing but I will be really surprised if it sells as well as the outgoing model, just based on asthetics alone

I think it's the exact opposite. Which is a big reason they stopped/did one short run of production of the updated Enduro with UDH on it...

I think it's the exact opposite. Which is a big reason they stopped/did one short run of production of the updated Enduro with UDH on it. They know that this low slung design will get people super eager to buy. The performance and looks will be top notch, especially when it's finalized with carbon, etc. 

Low slung is one thing, but having linkage pieces hanging out UNDER the BB will surely be a massive turn off to some people.

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11/19/2023 11:21pm

The new Demo/Enduro probably rides amazing but I will be really surprised if it sells as well as the outgoing model, just based on asthetics alone

I think it's the exact opposite. Which is a big reason they stopped/did one short run of production of the updated Enduro with UDH on it...

I think it's the exact opposite. Which is a big reason they stopped/did one short run of production of the updated Enduro with UDH on it. They know that this low slung design will get people super eager to buy. The performance and looks will be top notch, especially when it's finalized with carbon, etc. 

I have never seen an enduro with UDH

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11/19/2023 11:28pm

I have never seen an enduro with UDH

That’s because they don’t exist.

Current version is just updated colours and coil shocks 

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11/19/2023 11:29pm

Low slung is one thing, but having linkage pieces hanging out UNDER the BB will surely be a massive turn off to some people.

That will get cleaned up a bit for production and will have a polycarbonate or similar fairing that is going to snap over it and onto the carbon frame. Won't be super noticeable as you're not going to see the linkage and it won't hang below a 32T chainring.

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11/19/2023 11:43pm

Low slung is one thing, but having linkage pieces hanging out UNDER the BB will surely be a massive turn off to some people.

That will get cleaned up a bit for production and will have a polycarbonate or similar fairing that is going to snap over it and onto...

That will get cleaned up a bit for production and will have a polycarbonate or similar fairing that is going to snap over it and onto the carbon frame. Won't be super noticeable as you're not going to see the linkage and it won't hang below a 32T chainring.

Interesting insides you provide here. Is this a guess or have you seen something suggesting they are getting closer to a production model? 

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11/20/2023 3:13am

Low slung is one thing, but having linkage pieces hanging out UNDER the BB will surely be a massive turn off to some people.

That will get cleaned up a bit for production and will have a polycarbonate or similar fairing that is going to snap over it and onto...

That will get cleaned up a bit for production and will have a polycarbonate or similar fairing that is going to snap over it and onto the carbon frame. Won't be super noticeable as you're not going to see the linkage and it won't hang below a 32T chainring.

Interesting insides you provide here. Is this a guess or have you seen something suggesting they are getting closer to a production model? 

Sounds like a guess to me. But it’s logical, come to think about it - it the design has superb performance, then a plate/cover of some sort must be put there to receive the hits for rocks, debris, etc. 

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Hope so. But I can’t but wonder how the dread can get better. The v1 is just about the best bike ever 

As a V1 owner, they can redesign the shock tunnel and linkage like the V2 Druid so it doesn't eat rocks and crack itself. I'm just...

As a V1 owner, they can redesign the shock tunnel and linkage like the V2 Druid so it doesn't eat rocks and crack itself. I'm just glad there's experienced guys locally that can repair carbon fibre holes. Better frame storage and polishing up the little "newer bike company" type design issues would be amazing. If it's a bigger version of the V2 Druid, I think it would hit everything that needs to be done.

As a Druid v2 owner I can confirm that it’s a cement mixer back there. The tire clearance is minimal and with a fresh rear tire on in the southwest, I’ve chunked up the inside of the rear triangle. 

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11/21/2023 4:17pm
gbcoke wrote:
production ready new Demo ??

IMG-20231118-WA0002production ready new Demo ??

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11/21/2023 4:18pm
gbcoke wrote:
production ready new Demo ??

IMG-20231118-WA0002production ready new Demo ??

Krispy wrote:

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11/21/2023 4:19pm

Loic with his moto style reservoir but just missing the servo to turn the compression knob.😎

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I'd bet it's just Loic riding off-season with a standard shock so he doesn't need to worry about hiding the unreleased Ohlin's tech. 

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11/21/2023 10:32pm
Evil96 wrote:

new brakes from galfer? ugly as..

Article up on the other site now about their prototype. Consider yourself vindicated.

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11/22/2023 11:47pm

IMG 3875.png?VersionId=5uFdaBLTuoBp obaq8ZNkVfcFPuR8ZNew E*thirteen Rim, similar overall shape to CB wheels. Somehow the way all the company's seem to go. 

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11/24/2023 1:00am

I'm not sure if this has beeen posted earlier. The german website mtb-news made a focus about the Dead rabbit Enduro bike (which we already knew about). The frame itself ain't the most interesting info here (even if that's some fine piece of craftsmanship), the equipment tho... 

Those brakes for instance: 

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Obviously these aren't production ready and need some refinement (the "Superstop V1" would be a clue). Interesting design for the caliper, kinda reminds me of the BCA performance brakes (for the integrated cooling feature at least)

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11/24/2023 1:36am
jsray wrote:

Not really tech rumor. Or team rumor. Or racing talk. 

but Brandon semenuk was on gypsy tales podcast. 
 

https://youtu.be/27AgwQivAIQ?si=nBWhqzC_vur-EJnh

"Nice, 3hours of Semenuk, i'm sure they will talk about rampage, his favourite edits, evolution of freeride etc! "

 

Ends up being 2h30 about rally Tongue Good listen nonetheless

 

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11/24/2023 9:41am

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Primoz
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11/24/2023 10:01am

So, CNC'd lugs?

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11/24/2023 10:12am
Nico_Hrndz wrote:
I'm not sure if this has beeen posted earlier. The german website mtb-news made a focus about the Dead rabbit Enduro bike (which we already knew...

I'm not sure if this has beeen posted earlier. The german website mtb-news made a focus about the Dead rabbit Enduro bike (which we already knew about). The frame itself ain't the most interesting info here (even if that's some fine piece of craftsmanship), the equipment tho... 

Those brakes for instance: 

aHR0cHM6Ly9mc3RhdGljMS5tdGItbmV3cy5kZS92My8yNy8yNzY4LzI3NjgyMDItMGtoaDlpNG53ZXVjLWRlYWRyYWJiaXRfY3JhZnRiaWtlZGF5czIwMjNfOC1vcmlnaW5hbC5qcGc.jpg?VersionId=lb3ZolyDZyjFKU78rmSC PDadvHYM

br.jpg?VersionId=AnT00EzCLJPWmNJ94e

 

Obviously these aren't production ready and need some refinement (the "Superstop V1" would be a clue). Interesting design for the caliper, kinda reminds me of the BCA performance brakes (for the integrated cooling feature at least)

Brakes come from Pitstop Components. Check out their insta: https://www.instagram.com/pitstopcomponents/?hl=en

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11/24/2023 11:33am
Primoz wrote:

So, CNC'd lugs?

Yeah, Dans been riding it at the park all year and I got a  look at it a few times.. Different layout from the current bikes too.

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11/24/2023 12:21pm
Primoz wrote:

So, CNC'd lugs?

gibbon wrote:
Yeah, Dans been riding it at the park all year and I got a  look at it a few times.. Different layout from the current bikes...

Yeah, Dans been riding it at the park all year and I got a  look at it a few times.. Different layout from the current bikes too.

They call the carbon frame a DW6 and you can see the hashtag #DW4 in the post.  So that makes sense, could we see the return of the Iron Horse Sunday!

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11/24/2023 1:50pm
Nico_Hrndz wrote:
I'm not sure if this has beeen posted earlier. The german website mtb-news made a focus about the Dead rabbit Enduro bike (which we already knew...

I'm not sure if this has beeen posted earlier. The german website mtb-news made a focus about the Dead rabbit Enduro bike (which we already knew about). The frame itself ain't the most interesting info here (even if that's some fine piece of craftsmanship), the equipment tho... 

Those brakes for instance: 

aHR0cHM6Ly9mc3RhdGljMS5tdGItbmV3cy5kZS92My8yNy8yNzY4LzI3NjgyMDItMGtoaDlpNG53ZXVjLWRlYWRyYWJiaXRfY3JhZnRiaWtlZGF5czIwMjNfOC1vcmlnaW5hbC5qcGc.jpg?VersionId=lb3ZolyDZyjFKU78rmSC PDadvHYM

br.jpg?VersionId=AnT00EzCLJPWmNJ94e

 

Obviously these aren't production ready and need some refinement (the "Superstop V1" would be a clue). Interesting design for the caliper, kinda reminds me of the BCA performance brakes (for the integrated cooling feature at least)

jamesma wrote:

Brakes come from Pitstop Components. Check out their insta: https://www.instagram.com/pitstopcomponents/?hl=en

Needs a few more nooks and crannies! 

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11/24/2023 2:11pm

in ohlins dot com manual page there is a manual for

RXF36 m.3

 

m.3???

Smile

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