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the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link passing through the downtube, the tunnel in the seattube, and the frame cover bolts, it appears that the bb area is made up of two parallel vertical plates, similar to trinity MTB's bikes. if so, the bolts at the bb could be a way to secure a bb housing between the two plates- you can't leave bottom brackets exposed without a housing.
more of a stretch- a bolt-in bb housing could also allow spesh to change bb position in the frame relatively easily. not sure if that's a worthwhile variable for them to manipulate though. when was the last time we saw eccentric bbs on the World Cup circuit?
On Bruni's bike... https://www.pinkbike.com/news/bike-check-loic-brunis-specialized-demo.h…
I think the 3 bolts on the BB are Bruni's eccententric BB that he has used for a while Chriskief linked the PB shots of them using it on the old demo.
From the shots so far its clearly just a Horst Link with an interesting rocker design to tune the shock rate, unless the "main" pivot by the BB the chainstay is attached to is actually a Link, its "just" a Horst Link design.
To be fair, a very fast Horst link design.
https://en.brujulabike.com/new-electronic-suspension-flight-attendant-nino-schurter/
Flight attendant on the XC range from rockshox.
Will it be the same as the trail and enduro versions, or a differing tune/algorithm? hopefully not the "default to locked" which gets the Fox version hated.
Obviously they cant hide the thing on the fork crown, but they've put stickers on the frame showing it off (which otherwise would go totally unseen on the Scott) so release imminent?
EBB for sure - allows them to tweak BB height for 29" or 27.5" rear and gives a bit of +/- adjustability on rear centre length
That's what I thought.
I bet it's basically the Ancillotti PullShock system under the cover. With the obvious difference that Specialized wanted a way to control the axle path a bit better, hence the HorstLink pivot.
http://www.ancillotti.com/images/scarab3big.jpg
Agreed on this minus the concentric pivot to the BB (mentioned in the quoted posts).
I think the bolts near the BB are for an eccentric BB to adjust the chainstay length and/or BB height.
You wanna know what I think? Ok then.
I think it's really funny hat you just incorrectly assume that I have "little to no experience with, or understanding of" what I'm critizing.
A friend (and neighbour) of mine is an engineer who has worked for Canyon for several years. He was actually one of the people tasked with integrating the KIS system into the existing Spectral frame(, a task he himself wasn't fond of btw because he doesn't much like the system either). When out on testing rides, we will often meet up and this way I have had test rides on many Canyon prototypes way before they came out - same for the Spectral KIS prototype.
My honest opinion on it is that it's not a good product at all. It effectively does none of the things you'd want it to do, but a lot of things you don't want, like being an annoying hindrance to quickly turning the bars on tech trails. On fast and rough trails it also occasionally gives this horrible rumbling mechanical feedback through the bars. Not a pleasant feeling. If cranked up all the way, it also makes it weirdly hard to hold your line precisely through long, fast turns.
Also just in general, in regards of this being an innovations thread; I really don't think we should just mindlessly eat up every fad the industry throws at us. Over the last couple of years, the bike industry didn't have a terribly good track record regarding the "fad vs actual innovation" ratio. It's good to be a critical consumer.
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Please lets not start fighting. I left the other site because the comment section is cancer.
Back to bikes. Can anyone identify this tire? It was taken from Loic Brunis POV from Lenzerheide. I dont think its neither a Cannibal nor Butcher nor Hillbilly.
Taken from pit bits 3. Michelin DH 16?
ENHANCE
yes.
New RS shock looks to be called a Vivid
That’s fair
Hmmm... maybe a new tread to compete with the DHRII?
I ride either the Butcher/Eliminator combo or Butcher f&r. After seeing the Cannibal on a friend's bike at the last local Enduro race, I can see the need for a gravity tire that rolls faster than the cannibal but has better straight line braking than the Butcher.
I wanted to send this as a PM, but you have them closed off. I'd be sparse with the details where you got the info from, you might get your friend in trouble. I doubt companies are happy that people outside their organisation or outside their control (NDAs, liabilities and stuff...) ride unreleased stuff...
I'm only a handful of rides in on my Relay with the Fazua 60.
A few notes:
1) I've had no problems with it besides some cable rattle.
2) There is not much in the way of cable management. Cables are just zip tied to the battery bracket, and they can rattle.
3) I don't love the removable battery as it's a rattle point. Some weird plastic piece fell out of my battery hole and then the battery rattled. This piece was sort of just barely sitting there. Was a very easy fix. Personally, I'd rather have a fixed battery. That said there is room in front of the battery to store other stuff as well. Also my battery seems to need to be clicked in quite tightly. If it's the first light click and not to the second firm click, you'll have issues.
4) It's the best handling bike I've ever ridden.
5) A recent update combined with some App settings makes the power delivery really nice. I like it.
6) If the motor battery broke, I could ride it while waiting for new parts and be okay doing it. I mean it would weigh 37#s but otherwise it would be fine.
7) I don't see what the problem is with the controller. Seems fine to me. Even the basic LED display is actually fine but could be made better. Would like to see a simple '%' that changed colors depending on mode.
8) Often, I think I should have gone with the Levo SL as weight is very important to me, and maybe I should have. But it's got a really slack sta and the CS is much too short when in mullet mode. I'd have to run the Levo as a full 29er, nothing wrong with that but I am really enjoying the mullet. I actually think with the same spec and size the weight difference is only about 3#s between the Relay & the SL, which considering you have Al cranks, a bash ring, more power & a 44% larger battery pack seems pretty reasonable actually.
I went too large on my XL Relay at only 5'11" as I've sized up for years and mulleting shortens it up a bit more. But the bike was just too big to manhandle, and I considered selling it.
The bike also has front end traction like I've never felt, so good. So, it's the perfect bike to experiment with uber short stems. I slapped a 32mm on it last night and will test today. It felt great on the parking lot test however as the directness of the short stem really helped with the generally heavy steering of an e-bike.
If the 32mm length stem works well, I'll test the Rulezman stem next month when it's available.
I'm mostly concerned with my ability to manual at the last moment, something I couldn't do at first on this bike.
Could it be a dh version of the wild AM2? Looks like the same pattern of side knobs and centre knobs as the unmounted tire in this photo from the other site.
I'm only 6'0" but ride a bike with 515 reach paired with a 31mm offset stem and 83mm rise bars with 15 degrees of backsweep. I've also ridden the BMB Raised Reverse stem on my bike. Zero or slightly negative effective offset is great from my experience.
Also, stack doesn't scale with reach on larger frame, so you need to have higher bars on bigger sizes. If your bars aren't at least as high as your seat at full extension, they are probably too low for a trail or enduro bike. Stack is just as important as reach when discussing bike fit and we really should be measuring these numbers from the handlebars, not the frame.
I love this photo because it highlights how stack is not factored into bike fit. Think about how wildly different the riding position is for these two riders!
"If your bars aren't at least as high as your seat at full extension, they are probably too low for a trail or enduro bike."
At 6'2 with a 34" inseam I'd need ape hangers to achieve that.
Looks like a Conti Argotal
Try it. I went from a 40 mm stem and a 30 mm rise bar to a 35 mm stem and 55 mm rise bars. A world of difference (in a good way).
New Rock Shox Vivid Air...
I only clued into this phenomenon last year but I wish I had figured this out when I started riding 10 years ago. It seems crazy at first to add so many stem spacers and to get such high rise bars but it makes a world of difference. I'm 6'2" with a 32 inseam for reference. I would say any range +/- 25mm from your seat height will work depending on conditions etc. My DH bike is slightly above seat height and my enduro bike is slightly below.
Should we move this bar height debate into a separate topic? It's a thing I've started thinking about lately and tried a few things out (as noted above), so would love to discuss it in more detail, but this really isn't the place.
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Another look at the SRAM "Maven" brakes from the pits
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