Looking at this photo reminds me of the deviate. Forbidden built an upside down Horst for the new druid, this kind of seems like an upside down FSR with a link rotating around the BB (like the Highlander or Claymore).
With it being designed for 20inch wheels I somewhat doubt that
It fits 19 and 21 inch wheels. Modern Mtb wheels are 23 and 24.5in. However, mtb tyres are smaller so the overall diameter of wheel plus tyre for 650b (23in rim) is around 28in which is the same a 21in MX rim with a 90/100. So I think if you run 650b front wheel it'll be fine. If you want to run bigger then you'd need a custom crown. I think most riders won't do it due to the 4.5kg weight. I looked at the spec and it's pretty much a Manitou Dorado copy and probably way more expensive.
Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!!
Here is my Picasso approach on the system:
Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!!
Here is my Picasso approach on the system:
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is...
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
Well everyone is out here speculating on the shock layout, have we talked about how it looks to use the seatstay from the enduro? Always been interested by specialized running the narrower hub standard on their downhill bikes (135mm back in the day, 148mm now).
I was thinking, could it be some sort of dw6 as well? Didn't anyone mention they can change the axle path with different links? Can't do that with a regular horst, unless they are swapping the upper link or the stays.
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is...
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link passing through the downtube, the tunnel in the seattube, and the frame cover bolts, it appears that the bb area is made up of two parallel vertical plates, similar to trinity MTB's bikes. if so, the bolts at the bb could be a way to secure a bb housing between the two plates- you can't leave bottom brackets exposed without a housing.
more of a stretch- a bolt-in bb housing could also allow spesh to change bb position in the frame relatively easily. not sure if that's a worthwhile variable for them to manipulate though. when was the last time we saw eccentric bbs on the World Cup circuit?
the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link...
the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link passing through the downtube, the tunnel in the seattube, and the frame cover bolts, it appears that the bb area is made up of two parallel vertical plates, similar to trinity MTB's bikes. if so, the bolts at the bb could be a way to secure a bb housing between the two plates- you can't leave bottom brackets exposed without a housing.
more of a stretch- a bolt-in bb housing could also allow spesh to change bb position in the frame relatively easily. not sure if that's a worthwhile variable for them to manipulate though. when was the last time we saw eccentric bbs on the World Cup circuit?
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is...
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
I think the 3 bolts on the BB are Bruni's eccententric BB that he has used for a while Chriskief linked the PB shots of them using it on the old demo.
From the shots so far its clearly just a Horst Link with an interesting rocker design to tune the shock rate, unless the "main" pivot by the BB the chainstay is attached to is actually a Link, its "just" a Horst Link design.
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is...
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
I think the 3 bolts on the BB are Bruni's eccententric BB that he has used for a while Chriskief linked the PB shots of them...
I think the 3 bolts on the BB are Bruni's eccententric BB that he has used for a while Chriskief linked the PB shots of them using it on the old demo.
From the shots so far its clearly just a Horst Link with an interesting rocker design to tune the shock rate, unless the "main" pivot by the BB the chainstay is attached to is actually a Link, its "just" a Horst Link design.
Will it be the same as the trail and enduro versions, or a differing tune/algorithm? hopefully not the "default to locked" which gets the Fox version hated.
Obviously they cant hide the thing on the fork crown, but they've put stickers on the frame showing it off (which otherwise would go totally unseen on the Scott) so release imminent?
the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link...
the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link passing through the downtube, the tunnel in the seattube, and the frame cover bolts, it appears that the bb area is made up of two parallel vertical plates, similar to trinity MTB's bikes. if so, the bolts at the bb could be a way to secure a bb housing between the two plates- you can't leave bottom brackets exposed without a housing.
more of a stretch- a bolt-in bb housing could also allow spesh to change bb position in the frame relatively easily. not sure if that's a worthwhile variable for them to manipulate though. when was the last time we saw eccentric bbs on the World Cup circuit?
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is...
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
I bet it's basically the Ancillotti PullShock system under the cover. With the obvious difference that Specialized wanted a way to control the axle path a bit better, hence the HorstLink pivot.
They're onto a plastic shroud; I don't think we're ever getting a look at what's under it now (just like Bruni's mystery shock)
Looking at this photo reminds me of the deviate. Forbidden built an upside down Horst for the new druid, this kind of seems like an upside down FSR with a link rotating around the BB (like the Highlander or Claymore).
Definitely no.
they fit together but I believe the seals would crash into the crown by a substantial amount.
The boxxer lower crown is much flatter and thinner than a single crown.
They have done it in the past and came back to the original design. Let's see how long this one lasts.
It fits 19 and 21 inch wheels. Modern Mtb wheels are 23 and 24.5in. However, mtb tyres are smaller so the overall diameter of wheel plus tyre for 650b (23in rim) is around 28in which is the same a 21in MX rim with a 90/100. So I think if you run 650b front wheel it'll be fine. If you want to run bigger then you'd need a custom crown. I think most riders won't do it due to the 4.5kg weight. I looked at the spec and it's pretty much a Manitou Dorado copy and probably way more expensive.
https://www.maxxis.com/us/tire/maxxcross-desert-it/
Gamux Enduro bike
The rear tire on Sam Hill's Nukeproof doesn't look like a production Michelin tire !
In other tech news, Privateer has been working on a DJ/pump track frame/build it seems: https://www.privateerbikes.com/collections/privateer-dj101.
Öhlins XC stuff released
That looks bad-ass (wonder about mud in the seatstays/chainstays tho...)
another pit bits gallery in the works. some early highlights as i build it (demo and pivot close-ups)
Yep, read our review HERE!
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No need for a bash guard with these covers at least.
Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!!
Here is my Picasso approach on the system:
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB
So something like this?
similar-ish idea to old world force, just w/o huge rocker? or not even close? (i realize we can't see the details)
Bikerumor got a bit of the scoop on the mondraker. one of the things is a modular BB shell to allow different BB locations:
Well everyone is out here speculating on the shock layout, have we talked about how it looks to use the seatstay from the enduro? Always been interested by specialized running the narrower hub standard on their downhill bikes (135mm back in the day, 148mm now).
I was thinking, could it be some sort of dw6 as well? Didn't anyone mention they can change the axle path with different links? Can't do that with a regular horst, unless they are swapping the upper link or the stays.
Oh well, I can always just polish the 26" Lyrik and 36 collection and dream of what could have been.
the 3 bolts on the demo bb area might be a bit of a red herring when it comes to pivot locations. between the shock link passing through the downtube, the tunnel in the seattube, and the frame cover bolts, it appears that the bb area is made up of two parallel vertical plates, similar to trinity MTB's bikes. if so, the bolts at the bb could be a way to secure a bb housing between the two plates- you can't leave bottom brackets exposed without a housing.
more of a stretch- a bolt-in bb housing could also allow spesh to change bb position in the frame relatively easily. not sure if that's a worthwhile variable for them to manipulate though. when was the last time we saw eccentric bbs on the World Cup circuit?
On Bruni's bike... https://www.pinkbike.com/news/bike-check-loic-brunis-specialized-demo.h…
I think the 3 bolts on the BB are Bruni's eccententric BB that he has used for a while Chriskief linked the PB shots of them using it on the old demo.
From the shots so far its clearly just a Horst Link with an interesting rocker design to tune the shock rate, unless the "main" pivot by the BB the chainstay is attached to is actually a Link, its "just" a Horst Link design.
To be fair, a very fast Horst link design.
https://en.brujulabike.com/new-electronic-suspension-flight-attendant-nino-schurter/
Flight attendant on the XC range from rockshox.
Will it be the same as the trail and enduro versions, or a differing tune/algorithm? hopefully not the "default to locked" which gets the Fox version hated.
Obviously they cant hide the thing on the fork crown, but they've put stickers on the frame showing it off (which otherwise would go totally unseen on the Scott) so release imminent?
EBB for sure - allows them to tweak BB height for 29" or 27.5" rear and gives a bit of +/- adjustability on rear centre length
That's what I thought.
I bet it's basically the Ancillotti PullShock system under the cover. With the obvious difference that Specialized wanted a way to control the axle path a bit better, hence the HorstLink pivot.
http://www.ancillotti.com/images/scarab3big.jpg