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Primoz 6/13/2022 12:23pm
6/13/2022 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2022 12:26pm
I say no. The rocker is not the same, it's a lot more bent on the white bike. Looks very Giant like.

The blobs on the rocker kinda look like they could be shaped nuts though (not sure if it's a trunnion shock based on this pic?). Kona had a similar (but completely closed off) rocker on the Operator.
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bermslapper69 6/13/2022 3:09pm
6/13/2022 3:09pm
hitar_potar wrote:
Noone’s talking about the new Trek Fuel EX-e… Some sort of an embargo? Seems like a great alternative to the Levo SL and the Orbea Rise...
Noone’s talking about the new Trek Fuel EX-e… Some sort of an embargo? Seems like a great alternative to the Levo SL and the Orbea Rise. Smile
gbcoke wrote:
You mean this ? Looks like the bike discussed earlier in this tread... New TQ motor with a 360wh battery and around 18.4 kg for a...
You mean this ? Looks like the bike discussed earlier in this tread...
New TQ motor with a 360wh battery and around 18.4 kg for a high spec build
Damn that jawn really looks like a GT. Like REALLY looks like a GT.
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jason.west.750 6/13/2022 5:52pm
6/13/2022 5:52pm
hitar_potar wrote:
Noone’s talking about the new Trek Fuel EX-e… Some sort of an embargo? Seems like a great alternative to the Levo SL and the Orbea Rise...
Noone’s talking about the new Trek Fuel EX-e… Some sort of an embargo? Seems like a great alternative to the Levo SL and the Orbea Rise. Smile
gbcoke wrote:
You mean this ? Looks like the bike discussed earlier in this tread... New TQ motor with a 360wh battery and around 18.4 kg for a...
You mean this ? Looks like the bike discussed earlier in this tread...
New TQ motor with a 360wh battery and around 18.4 kg for a high spec build
bermslapper69 wrote:
Damn that jawn really looks like a GT. Like REALLY looks like a GT.
Looks very very much like my old Sensor! Pretty wild
Brevard_Bikewrench 6/13/2022 7:02pm
6/13/2022 7:02pm
Dang you guys are good! Let’s see how long those photos stay up. Apparently the new EX won’t be released until October, or from another source, next year.
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mfoga 6/13/2022 7:15pm
6/13/2022 7:15pm
gbcoke wrote:
You mean this ? Looks like the bike discussed earlier in this tread... New TQ motor with a 360wh battery and around 18.4 kg for a...
You mean this ? Looks like the bike discussed earlier in this tread...
New TQ motor with a 360wh battery and around 18.4 kg for a high spec build
styriabeef wrote:
Do we think this is the same bike? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/13/12601/s1200_Screenshot_20220613_210836.jpg[/img]
Do we think this is the same bike?
The cable ports are definitely different.
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RiderMikeCheck1 6/13/2022 10:52pm
6/13/2022 10:52pm
somebodyyouusedtoknow wrote:
probably new AirWiz
Yea, looks like a plastic cap (better to transmit wireless signals).
Maybe the first built-in Shockwiz in the wild.
styriabeef 6/13/2022 10:59pm
6/13/2022 10:59pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2022 11:00pm
bermslapper69 wrote:
Damn that jawn really looks like a GT. Like REALLY looks like a GT.
Either this is a genius marketing move, or someone is playing us:


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Primoz 6/13/2022 11:11pm
6/13/2022 11:11pm
It just makes sense to shape the frame that way from the perspective of loads coming into the front triangle. The rear suspension is easily tuned and doesn't have jarring characteristics if done right, you have bottle cage space, etc.

There's a reason "looks like a session" is a meme. The layout makes sense.
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SupremeShreder42 6/13/2022 11:20pm
6/13/2022 11:20pm
New Schwalbe Tire? Picture was taken in Leogang
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boozed 6/14/2022 1:42am
6/14/2022 1:42am Edited Date/Time 6/17/2022 7:35pm
Jon_Angieri wrote:
What’s going on with the top of that Super Deluxe? It doesn’t look familiar to me
Trek's "thrushaft" Super Deluxe Ultimate doesn't have the rebound dial on the top of the body, this might simply be the 2023 version of that.

Edit: Blush


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Noeserd 6/14/2022 9:53am
6/14/2022 9:53am
SupremeShreder42 wrote:
New Schwalbe Tire? Picture was taken in Leogang [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/13/12603/s1200_56221DF2_DB40_4DB2_AD83_CE2342757A64.jpg[/img]
New Schwalbe Tire? Picture was taken in Leogang
Thats the 2nd different tyre they've been trying, i hope they release these soon so that we will have magic mary alternatives
Faster Than U 6/14/2022 10:14am
6/14/2022 10:14am
Looks like a DHR2
passwordistaco 6/15/2022 7:40am
6/15/2022 7:40am

Any other shots of the new Boxxer?
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Noeserd 6/15/2022 7:51am
6/15/2022 7:51am
Its been seen so much its not interesting anymore Sad
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vinicius gabrielli 6/17/2022 5:18am
6/17/2022 5:18am
An all new demo is coming?
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cheapondirt 6/17/2022 7:51am
6/17/2022 7:51am
Faster Than U wrote:
Looks like a DHR2
Eliminator vibes for me.
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C-LION 6/17/2022 11:38am
6/17/2022 11:38am
Linkage seems to be different. Very interesting.



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Noeserd 6/17/2022 2:08pm
6/17/2022 2:08pm
Whole bike is different thats for sure
RiderMikeCheck1 6/17/2022 3:48pm
6/17/2022 3:48pm
Noeserd wrote:
Whole bike is different thats for sure
It looks like it's this bike:
https://theloamwolf.com/2021/01/04/speculations-new-bicycle-rear-suspen…
https://theloamwolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/fig6c.jpg

But, with the vertical wishbone piece removed between the seatstay and chainstay.
Probably the the platform for the new Demo and Enduro.

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jewfrodexter 6/17/2022 3:49pm
6/17/2022 3:49pm
Noeserd wrote:
Whole bike is different thats for sure
Very Different.
kinda looks like an Enduro.
Maybe a carbon demo?
TheShortestCharles 6/17/2022 8:22pm
6/17/2022 8:22pm
Noeserd wrote:
Whole bike is different thats for sure
RiderMikeCheck1 wrote:
It looks like it's this bike: https://theloamwolf.com/2021/01/04/speculations-new-bicycle-rear-suspension-by-specialized/ https://theloamwolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/fig6c.jpg But, with the vertical wishbone piece removed between the seatstay and chainstay. Probably the the platform for the...
It looks like it's this bike:
https://theloamwolf.com/2021/01/04/speculations-new-bicycle-rear-suspen…
https://theloamwolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/fig6c.jpg

But, with the vertical wishbone piece removed between the seatstay and chainstay.
Probably the the platform for the new Demo and Enduro.

Without the wishbone link that suspension can't compress the shock so it's probably something else
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Primoz 6/17/2022 9:44pm
6/17/2022 9:44pm
Exactly, without the scissor link present, it looks like the bike from the patent, except for the part where it looks completely different from it.

I do wonder how the shock is driven. Driving it off the seat stay is something the demo has done in the past. But that was with a triangle. Not having a triangle there makes it a lot more interesting.
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Mr.Nally 6/17/2022 11:35pm
6/17/2022 11:35pm
Here's a good image of the one of the links on the new Demo


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sr_34 6/18/2022 1:56am
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Mr.Nally wrote:
Here's a good image of the one of the links on the new Demo [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/17/12626/s1200_Screenshot_20220618_070821.jpg[/img]
Here's a good image of the one of the links on the new Demo


I'd guess the Linkages will be very similar to the Kenevo SL.
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Primoz 6/18/2022 3:49am
6/18/2022 3:49am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2022 3:52am
The Kenevo SL is exactly the same as the old/current Demo and Enduro. This is different. There is no scissor link coming down from the rocker.

Speaking of Kenevo.... GOD I hate marketing:


THEY LITERALLY SHOW IT BEING A 4-BAR LINKAGE RIGHT THERE!!!

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vinicius gabrielli 6/18/2022 5:11am
6/18/2022 5:11am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2022 5:15am
Looks like an similar construction as a Athertons bikes, with carbon tubes and alloy/maybe ti junctions.
Pretty different thing in Spesh!

The linkage I think can be like an Norco with an upper link… just a guess
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Primoz 6/18/2022 5:55am
6/18/2022 5:55am
With the Norco the rocker is at the bottom. It uses a basically upside down horst link.

Good eye on the construction. I wouldn't hold my breath for it to make it to production, I'd say its a proto thing.
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