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hitar_potar 5/20/2021 10:32pm
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juliusk wrote:
You get a good look at the dorado from the helmet cam on the gopro course preview:
https://youtu.be/Vx2aLNgGoAE
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might just be it as it should be pretty close in parameters (at least on the outside).
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Karabuka 5/21/2021 12:44am
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juliusk wrote:
You get a good look at the dorado from the helmet cam on the gopro course preview:
https://youtu.be/Vx2aLNgGoAE
hitar_potar wrote:
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might...
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might just be it as it should be pretty close in parameters (at least on the outside).
Hard to tell anything from these photos but I'd say they might have increased the diameter of uppers/stanchions, if you zoom into the sceenshot posted above it seems like there is no edge of rather distinct hump for lower crown found in the present fork...
And they might have gone with the mezzer approach, new damper (not that old one was lacking anything, had pretty much all of the modern tools like 10 years ago), stock IRT 3 chamber air spring on pro model and 2 chambers with tokens on expert...
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Fred_Pop 5/21/2021 1:45am
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juliusk wrote:
You get a good look at the dorado from the helmet cam on the gopro course preview:
https://youtu.be/Vx2aLNgGoAE
hitar_potar wrote:
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might...
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might just be it as it should be pretty close in parameters (at least on the outside).
I think it'll be 20x110 boost with shorter offset and IRT standard in the Dorado Pro.
The only way they could make it better would be to offer a coil option everything else is already awesome!
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hitar_potar 5/21/2021 5:09am
5/21/2021 5:09am Edited Date/Time 5/21/2021 5:13am
juliusk wrote:
You get a good look at the dorado from the helmet cam on the gopro course preview:
https://youtu.be/Vx2aLNgGoAE
hitar_potar wrote:
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might...
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might just be it as it should be pretty close in parameters (at least on the outside).
Fred_Pop wrote:
I think it'll be 20x110 boost with shorter offset and IRT standard in the Dorado Pro. The only way they could make it better would be...
I think it'll be 20x110 boost with shorter offset and IRT standard in the Dorado Pro.
The only way they could make it better would be to offer a coil option everything else is already awesome!
Think IRT is already standard from stock on the current Dorado. As for the coil option - you’re not missing anything special: had a coil-converted Dorado for several years (model year 2010 or 2011), although it did work very good, it wasn’t any better than an air one. But it did weigh more - 3220g, to be precise.
hitar_potar 5/21/2021 5:22am
5/21/2021 5:22am
juliusk wrote:
You get a good look at the dorado from the helmet cam on the gopro course preview:
https://youtu.be/Vx2aLNgGoAE
hitar_potar wrote:
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might...
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might just be it as it should be pretty close in parameters (at least on the outside).
Karabuka wrote:
Hard to tell anything from these photos but I'd say they might have increased the diameter of uppers/stanchions, if you zoom into the sceenshot posted above...
Hard to tell anything from these photos but I'd say they might have increased the diameter of uppers/stanchions, if you zoom into the sceenshot posted above it seems like there is no edge of rather distinct hump for lower crown found in the present fork...
And they might have gone with the mezzer approach, new damper (not that old one was lacking anything, had pretty much all of the modern tools like 10 years ago), stock IRT 3 chamber air spring on pro model and 2 chambers with tokens on expert...
Not what i’ve been told - that they’ll keep the 36mm stantions, they’ll make it lighter by using different material, as for the internals - the hopes are high!
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sspomer 5/21/2021 9:00am
5/21/2021 9:00am
dorado side shot via @ryan_franclin88

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Martin_Prophet 5/21/2021 9:11am
5/21/2021 9:11am
Dorado....and Cannondale dh Bike


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Primoz 5/21/2021 9:29am
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The C is the enduro bike...
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mixmastamikal 5/21/2021 11:26am
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Something new from EXT on their instagram.


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baronKanon 5/21/2021 11:50am
5/21/2021 11:50am
mixmastamikal wrote:
Something new from EXT on their instagram. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/21/10830/s1200_E_Storia.jpg[/img]
Something new from EXT on their instagram.


Ebike specific? Sick
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sspomer 5/21/2021 1:54pm
5/21/2021 1:54pm Edited Date/Time 5/21/2021 1:59pm
i've got $500 for the best fake tech post that smurfwaif poaches for an article on PB.

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WheelBased 5/21/2021 2:39pm
5/21/2021 2:39pm
sspomer wrote:
i've got $500 for the best fake tech post that smurfwaif poaches for an article on PB.

I've actually been thinking of dropping some subtle bullshit in my articles to see if I can catch someone slippin. I think I'll start doing it for the bounty. Would be super easy to catch someone since no one actually reads the documents themselves as a check, they'll just summarize mine.

I hope people read this. You better take the time to read the document before you lift my shit.
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Primoz 5/21/2021 2:50pm
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This has been done on our local site as well, intentional mistakes dropped into the articles to see who just copies and pastes them to other sites Smile
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airwreck 5/21/2021 3:08pm
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sspomer wrote:
i've got $500 for the best fake tech post that smurfwaif poaches for an article on PB.

Was the first ever acknowledgement of "Vital forumites" on PB?
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Fred_Pop 5/21/2021 10:14pm
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hitar_potar wrote:
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might...
Well, it does look like the present Dorado, nothing new according to this video. And yet, from what i know about the new one, it might just be it as it should be pretty close in parameters (at least on the outside).
Fred_Pop wrote:
I think it'll be 20x110 boost with shorter offset and IRT standard in the Dorado Pro. The only way they could make it better would be...
I think it'll be 20x110 boost with shorter offset and IRT standard in the Dorado Pro.
The only way they could make it better would be to offer a coil option everything else is already awesome!
hitar_potar wrote:
Think IRT is already standard from stock on the current Dorado. As for the coil option - you’re not missing anything special: had a coil-converted Dorado...
Think IRT is already standard from stock on the current Dorado. As for the coil option - you’re not missing anything special: had a coil-converted Dorado for several years (model year 2010 or 2011), although it did work very good, it wasn’t any better than an air one. But it did weigh more - 3220g, to be precise.
I'm pretty light at 60kg and have trouble getting full travel out of my Dorado even with the IRT so that's why I mentioned having a coil version.
hitar_potar 5/22/2021 2:15am
5/22/2021 2:15am
No need for a coil version - you just need to tinker with your fork.
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Suns_PSD 5/22/2021 1:22pm
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mixmastamikal wrote:
Something new from EXT on their instagram. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/21/10830/s1200_E_Storia.jpg[/img]
Something new from EXT on their instagram.


Big shaft for E-bikes and Spesh I guess. Would have expected an air shock from these guys first.
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Dirtyburger 5/22/2021 2:50pm
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mixmastamikal wrote:
Something new from EXT on their instagram. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/21/10830/s1200_E_Storia.jpg[/img]
Something new from EXT on their instagram.


Suns_PSD wrote:
Big shaft for E-bikes and Spesh I guess. Would have expected an air shock from these guys first.
I missed the large shaft the first time I saw it, but what if the e refers to something in the damper...
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WheelBased 5/22/2021 5:22pm
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Here's a follow-up from yesterday's Ohlins article. This is about the same shock but they're also developing an external air volume adjustment system that pushes a piston into the damping chamber, which expands a flexible bladder to adjust the air volume. Pretty nifty shit.

https://wheelbased.com/2021/05/22/spring-rate-adjuster-by-ohlins/
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brash 5/22/2021 8:28pm
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bring back boost valve yo!
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jackie treehorn 5/22/2021 9:24pm
5/22/2021 9:24pm
Dickscruttock wrote:
So thats quite a long time after the first SC mule with the lower link driven shock was shown back in early 2014:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-santa-cruz-nomad-2014.html
metadave wrote:
Huh, fair enough. I had somehow missed that one at the time. Although I nerded out after seeing that looking around and found that Outland beat...
Huh, fair enough. I had somehow missed that one at the time.

Although I nerded out after seeing that looking around and found that Outland beat us both out by at least 18 years 😅


TruckeeRiverTroll wrote:
Also, dont forget that you had first gen V10s (designed by intense at the time) and Intense M3s with that lower shock design as early as...
Also, dont forget that you had first gen V10s (designed by intense at the time) and Intense M3s with that lower shock design as early as 2001/2002. Although the outland most likely predates all of them, since they invented and originally held the patent for VPP.
Don't think Intense were designing SC VPP bikes

Maybe ask Dave Earle/Joe Graney who were around at the time
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jason.west.750 5/24/2021 9:01am
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Pretty decent sized side lugs. KC ftw🤘🤘
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pablo_b 5/25/2021 3:49pm
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I don't know if this has been posted already but I found this on Loic Bruni's Instagram. Is a new demo coming out?

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Jon_Angieri 5/25/2021 4:43pm
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Just found this on vali holl YT channel. Does Cecile have a new rig?
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Fantaman 5/25/2021 4:45pm
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That looks like a high pivot Demo.
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brash 5/25/2021 5:29pm
5/25/2021 5:29pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2021 5:29pm
wow great spot on Loics bike! That' chain ain't going into thin air that's for sure!
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sspomer 5/25/2021 6:57pm
5/25/2021 6:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2021 6:58pm
sick loic find! non-driveside - is that pivot placement normal? (I'm not a demo expert).


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kev.1n 5/25/2021 7:56pm
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I wonder if they're testing a similar idler position to what the Scott team did back in the day, right at the main pivot. That should help isolate chain forces from the suspension, right?

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