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I'll start by pasting my last geo post from the tech thread . "Proportional chainstays" are a marketing gimmick the way that the brands are currently using the term, with the exception of maybe forbidden. How proportional the rear center length is to the front center is 100% relative and not defined. What most people seem to talk about when it comes to "proportional chainstays" is the ballance between front wheel grip and rear wheel grip, or more accurately the weight distribution between the front wheel and the rear wheel. On level ground, a 100 kg rider on a bike...

https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/modern-geo-talk-chainstays-stack-re… Here we go, a fresh thread for geo talk

We do have a location in Portland @seanfisseli I don't think SEA will be a new hub. But GTK on the bike trails. If we were to try something the Portland location would be the most probable test.

i love you friggin nerds. all bikes are great somewhere. all bikes suck somewhere. get moar bikes. short chainstays are cool. long stays are pretty wild too. dorado FEELS way different to 40. Way. but thats the point right? I feel like santa cruz screwed up by not making bullit "MOST BIGGER" (battery/travel/geo) compared to VALA. but my ebike is a 2stroke. so maybe im way off.

As someone who has been on this thread a while I'll say: Leave the banter I feel like this thread does a good job of balancing Tech rumors and general Tech discussion that may seem off topic, of which Crab link is our proudest moment. The banter around the tech is just as important as the tech. If you just want a hot-list of rumors about stuff coming out, then well look elsewhere.

Tech Rumors and Innovation For rumors of tech. No one cares what chain stays you prefer take it somewhere else.

I used to be short chain stays. I have the, not bragging, but, let's just say my background includes a little bit of...BMX. loved my Canfield RIOT at 414mm on a 29, pre boost. Now I ride a rigid bike with a 455 rear end on the same trails, faster than I did on the Riot 10 years ago One isn't better than the other, but tastes, preferences, trends, styles change. Not looking to go shorter anytime soon.

Snow crab vs stone crab

What about chainstay girth? Too far?

Came here to see some new tech news but all i got was a bunch of opinons about chainstay length no one really cares about.

Back when I was young and much faster, in 2011 when short chainstays were all the rage, I had the gen 2 Coilair Magic link. It had like 470mm chainstays or something (thats really long for a 26" bike from 15 years ago). I was faster on it for my local DH track that had lots of steep, loose shale where the 3 min DH segment had average speeds above 25 mph. It was faster for me than my DH bike at the time, despite the Kona having some really crappy tires on it. However, that same Kona was noticeably...

5'9", 485mm reach, 32mm stem, 437mm CS. Rides great for me, I feel like I'm in the bike and not ass over rear axle like I was with the bikes of only a few years ago. CS/ rear center that grows/shrinks with bike sizes though is ideal. Always thought it'd be nice to offer a front triangle and an option of rear triangle in various sizes so riders could mix and match. I know that's not feasible from an inventory/investment standpoint but its a dream and it'd satisfy the tens of us that care.

Just sharing my two cents on the Intend Edge, since I've been riding one for a while. TLDR - I don't like it. Long version - I have the Edge, which I ride at 170mm travel. The fork is incredibly smooth on initial stroke, which actually leads to some sensation lost/vagueness on contact, not sure if I can covey that feeling correctly. There's almost a "are my front wheels on the ground?" feeling. I don't believe it's a bad thing, but I could never get used to it. Separate issue is there's not enough damping for me, but that's can...

It's pseudo technical babble and not a tech rumor.

In the second photo I see some linkage coming from the front and bottom of the bottom bracket. Looks like the bottom bracket may even be open at the front. Terrible editing but blue is the cranks and yellow is the bb shell, so all that unmarked area between the yellow and left blue crank looks to me like linkage.