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andyjr77 Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 Team Rumors
9/8/2025 3:01pm I'm British 🤣🤣🤣 Here's my logic - USDH is growing, then there's Canada too, plus of course other series seem to be growing (at least from what I can see from media). So if there's a truck going for a song as part of a fire sale, it makes sense - and nothing to prevent them flipping it a year down the line for more than they paid or even the same amount, meaning thry had a year's worth of pit truck & impressiv looking race presence FOC at worst.
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boozed Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 Team Rumors
9/8/2025 2:57pm Not to mention Jack Moir, whose popularity seems to be almost single-handedly keeping EDR alive and who can still win races. I think silly season might have just got a lot sillier.
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LePigPen Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 Race Talk
9/8/2025 2:46pm I think Luca is learning the ways of Troy Brosnan. Shocked to see he is 4th overall. He is 4th overall... While his best finish so far is a 5th. That is a WILDLY consistent rider day in day out qualies to finals. In front of a LOT of dudes who have a cup win.
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PisgahGnar Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 2:31pm It's still just reactive to the situation they put their customers in by running a flash sale, and getting people stuck in legal limbo as creditors. Thanks to the team figuring it out, those employees likely had nothing to do with any of the decisions and they are truly just trying to make it work out for the riders.
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dancingwithmyself Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 2:19pm Good sir, your comments will not be tolerated. I'm going to have kindly ask that you give ShapeShifter and the K.I.S. steering damper the respect they deserve. Seriously, couldn't agree more. You buy a YT or Canyon for the value proposition and absolutely nothing more. From a nonfinance guy, it seems like they simply forgot who they were. Never good to do that.
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Buckets Up Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 12:38pm This would be so interesting. After your done can you unravel the ski/snowboard manufacturer web? In the snow world (bikes are very similar) I always found it so odd that companies try so hard to keep the factory that builds their boards secret. Very few, from the big players to the small core brands, make their own hardgoods. And similar to bikes, there are 10-15 (hard to tell because they are so opaque) factories across the world that make the boards for almost everyone. Some of these factories make awesome stuff, some are pretty terrible. If as a company you...
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 12:37pm The analogy isn't that the bike industry has a perfect analog to TSMC or that bikes themselves are like semiconductors, my analogy is that the manufacturing model (not method) is somewhat similar. In both industries you have a high number of companies that engineer products (all over the globe) and a high number of (Taiwan based) companies that manufacture products. Sometimes there are vertically integrated companies (like Intel) but, at scale, this isn't what we're seeing, in bikes, semiconductors or a bazillion other industries. TSMC did not always have cache, nor was it considered remotely cool to manufacture your stuff...
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 12:35pm Little bit of an aside, but I'm doing some homework on the players in Taiwan, China and Vietnam responsible for most of the "big guys" bikes (frames, primarily). I have a few sources that are helping, but if anyone in this thread has anything to offer - jeff.brines@gmail.com I think it'd be really cool to shine a light on who is making what for who, even if it doesn't mean much on the surface. If the semiconductor industry can be so precisely mapped by Dylan Patel and his team, I feel I can figure the bike thing out. The smoke...
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bulletbass man Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 12:34pm I would think the Walton’s could easily start their own brand/sub brand with just about whoever they wanted. (Don’t they already have one). Doesn’t seem to make a ton of sense to buy into a brand with a tarnished reputation and a ton of unnecessary hurdles when you have a ton of capital and access to one of the most robust distribution infrastructures in the us both online and storefront. would be cool if they bought gt. Put the department store stuff on the shelves and the premium stuff dtc or ordered to storefront. Way richer history and far less...
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
9/8/2025 12:33pm I'll beat the drum of a different tune on this one: YT is fundamentally broken no matter the region. While I don't have most recent financials, they were abysmal as of 2023 and things have not improved since. I've mentioned it above, but they are underperforming across all profitability KPIs, and there isn't top-line growth to somehow justify it (its not an AI company, lol). I buried this in my post a month ago but YT was forced to shift from taking delivery of complete bikes to taking delivery of frames and assembling on their own. While this may seem...
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Uncle Cliffy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:17am Regarding “tHe oTheR sITe,” I think we all know why we are over here. I mean, I still have this URL bookmarked “Littermag.” 🤣
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:17am This other site, that happens here too, is such a weird thing. We're not talking about Voldermort...
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:17am I wonder how many people freaked out when Kaz said something to the effect of, "It's funny when people in the chat refer to Vital as the other site.. Like you can't say their name here.. We don't care if you visit more than one site. In fact, you should. Get another opinion before spending your money..." This was on the podcast within the last few weeks.
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ebruner Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:10am I would just interject that potentially, not all HBO system designs are appropriate for all consumers. I find the HBO system in a smashpot effective, but pretty easy to setup wrong, impacting fork performance. Some rebound systems in forks I think are a bit more idiot proof, Manitou's HBO setup works well with a pretty trick rebound check system, so it's minimizing it's impact on HSR when a suspension event is deep enough for it to come into play. The smashpot system has a VERY large impact on HSR. In addition, in it's stock shim configuration (qty 5), 90ml of...
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sr_34 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:08am While none of are likely to buy the $20k bike, it's got us all talking about it... Mission accomplished...
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TimBud Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:07am I’m all for that Sworks. Mega price, but they’ll all sell and your LBS will do well put of it if they manage to get one. There’s a ton of sweet parts and that paint job plus the Sworks (M-Sport/AMG) badge and a few more torques from the drive unit. Go take a look at the Pivot Shuttle LT($14499) if you want to see an actual rip off. Lots of own brand parts and low spec components (e.g. GX pod rather than XO/Ultimate). We priced it up at work and the parts even at retail only come to £8k, which...
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metadave Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:07am I will never forget the poor 20 year old lifty at Panorama trying to explain why the 80lb folding fat E-bikes with a 12 stack of black and chrome spacers could not go on the lift while the couple who owned them screamed at them until he allowed them to try. I later saw them riding up the hill with no helmets at what must have been 45km an hour at full throttle.
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owl-x Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
9/8/2025 11:06am Yeah dude if you don’t have a couple e-fats hanging off the back of the RV don’t even bother showing up to the 50s diner sports bar in this town. Names like PEDALOOG and VICTROX in big silver letters on the big square downtube beam member are a bonus.
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 UCI MTB World Championships
9/8/2025 10:42am Shout out to Fabien Cousine, Ben Walker (New World Disorder fame) aka @buckoW & all the track builders there & the Morgins tracks. Never forget the walking digger & what these folks REALLY accomplished in that region!!!
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