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I like the idea of it being an Evil, just because I feel like they haven't done anything interesting in ages. They could use a bit of a shake up.

I'll be that guy and repost from the other site. Anyone have any idea what this is?

Lots of great talking points. I’ve been running an ochain and also have felt a noticeable improvement especially under braking. It makes me wonder how much influence our current drivetrain system (chain, derailleur, clutch) has on suspension performance and if gearbox bikes also suffer from “chain growth” and pedal kickback.

Haha, no surprise the Shimano (who's electronic shift system is way off the back in 2024) PM would say that on a podcast about (to hype) Shimano products. Similar to the famous quote by Steve Balmer that iPhones wouldn't be successful in business because they didn't have a physical keyboard. Shimano's electronic MTB shifting is currently dead in the water for mountain bikes. It has virtually 0% spec on OEM builds. With SRAM introducing the lower cost "S" series wireless Transmission kit, you will see a ton of it flooding OEM builds in 2025 and beyond. By 2026, I wouldn't...

on the other site, they posted an interview with Bryn Atkinson and this quote from Shimano product manager for mtb drivetrain Nick Murdick: " I actually think that probably most mountain bikers don't want electronic shifting on their bike today. And I think that making a solid XT mechanical group is one of the most important things for us to get right in the coming years." also basically confirmed that new saint is still in the works.

100% Agree. Imagine walking into your local bike shop wanting to update your aging mondraker enduro bike. - Hello, I'm looking for a new enduro bike. - Ah yes, take a look at this Foxy. - No, sorry I must not have been clear, I want an enduro bike, like 160mm of travel, not a trail bike. -Foxy it is! Oh well, we call it the superfoxy now and it is 170/160mm. -Oh ok, sorry I didn't keep up with the name changes, but can I still get a Dune? -Of course sir, right this way, 170/165mm hard hitter, beautiful...

Another hot take (in light of rumors the new Hightower will also move towards 160/160 mm travel): keep bike model names in the same category, do not move them around. One of the main offenders of this is Trek who moved the Fuel EX from what was a downcountry bike before downcountry existed (120/120) to almost enduro levels (150/140 with the Gen6). It can kind of be explained by people wanting to buy the same bike over the years when they progress, so start off with less travel and move to more travel and just throw them the same model...

Norco is an Australian dairy that predates Norco Bicycles by almost 70 years. I like to slap stickers from milk cartons on my mates' bikes.

Longer travel Sight is 170F 160R. I presume it's replacing the Range as there has been no MY 2024 Range. I missed out on a 2024 Sight and I have a 2025 on order, There were two options (Sight 150 and Sight 160), so I asked my shop to order me the 160. I don't even have full spec yet but the C1 is much the same as the 2024 spec (GX Transmission, Fox Factory etc), but the 160 had a 170mm 38 instead of a 36, and a DHX2 wheras the 150 had a 160mm 36 like current and...

I think they'll sell both side by side and to differentiate it the bigger bike will have more travel front too, not sure if that means 170 or 180. Will be interesting to see what rear wheel sizes come stock across the board, SKU bloat will be real with multiple travel and multiple wheel size options in a single platform.

It's definitely not number 1. A lot of the people here are too well connected and don't want to get people in trouble by posting photos of things. It's number 2. It's getting to post season, a lot of the big product releases are done. Trade shows mostly over. Why announce products in late August with availability in September/October when by November probably half the riding market is done for the season and waxing the skiis. I was also hinted by my local Santa Cruz dealer that mega will be electric only in carbon.

Is specialized a street name for anything? Their resale value is so bad i could trade a 10 piece mcnugget meal for a stumpy

170 Front 160 rear? Or do you think they keep the 160 fork and just bump up to 160 rear?

Let's get some gosh darn new rumours going. Norco to sell long shocked sights from the factory as the new enduro race bike.

Oh, yeah. You missed some obvious sarcasm in the posts you replied to. I'd suggest you take your own advice.

Maybe someone could make a thread specifically for tech rumors so we don't derail this suspension kinematic thread?

So, it sounds like the consensus view is that the Formula CTS valves (at least the ones pictured in the teardown article of the Selva fork) ARE a simple orifice damper that uses different-sized holes and different hole configurations in the changeable donut-shaped piston as the source of damping. The single shim is likely only there are a one-way check valve to prevent flow through the piston in the opposite direction, and the shim is NOT there as a way to generate damping force in the primary flow direction. So it's a dead simple mechanical system. Bigger holes = less...

please enlighten me what‘s so hard in discussing those topics in a dedicated thread which i‘m sure will be greatly frequented? damping vs. springrate vs. leverage ratio isn‘t news at all. i (and i guess most) come here for news and rumors about new tech and don‘t want to scroll through pages full of tech talk that isn‘t rumors!

Any more rumors on the new Santa Cruz bikes? Megatower/Nomad and Hightower/Bronson being turned into two platforms instead of four with flipchips for the rear wheel size?