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" each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good" FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions.

Jesus, sorry I asked about a coil shock on the new Tallboy.

I'd much rather fix a carbon bike with a damaged downtube than an aluminium bike with a crack. Between the two, my money would be on the carbon bike having the longer lifespan. Aluminium fatigue is a bitch.

Where does this leave the 5010? Dead? Still making the old VPP version? New update to bring the new frame/kinematic from the Bronson/Nomad? Short travel mullet bikes are way more fun than they have any right to be. I hope they’re not going the way of the dodo.

I’d love to see a shoot out of trail bikes using the same linkage designs. It would really interesting to start to dig a bit deeper as to what sets them apart - quality control, kinematics, maintenance, etc etc.

Zerode are launching a new frameset, looks like two travel variants, 160 and 140mm. Shadow and Shadow Trail. 450mm chainstays on the large too. Internal frame storage too. Curious what the kinematics are. Looks pretty cool imo! https://zerodebikes.com/products/shadow-origin Rob continues his streak of only launching bikes like a month or two after I buy something else...

Remember the good old days when we talked about bikes on here?

Stop talking about Ford, with enough mentions the Ford sales team will find this thread and think we want more of the abominations. https://ford-bikes.com/collections/frontpage?srsltid=AfmBOopli28vcdxT2i…

Take it easy buddy. I’m not trying to derail the entire conversation but also think it’s allowed to have an aside now and again. There’s plenty of off topic quips that go on in this thread.

I think a better reason is because Ford was a nazi sympathizer. That said, we have more than likely all owned products from companies with ties to the nazis sadly.

I don't buy Ford because of the Michigan Supreme Court's decision in the 1919 case Dodge v. Ford Motor Company.

I’m not pro-Evil but dude this is like bringing up the Pinto as a reason not to get a new Ford. There may be plenty of relevant and current reasons but this isn’t one.

some would say bikes shouldn’t have motors either but here we are.

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I was thinking the other day about how disappointing the Nomad update was and how that translates to the bike industry still being screwed because serial buyers of bikes and frames (like us here) are just not excited to drop $3,500+ on any of these new frames. Combine this with the sheer amount of interesting bikes/frames in the back catalog that I’d love to try and are dirt cheap used: High pivot Optic, Range, Dreadnaught/Druid, Enduro, Tyee, Spindrift, Spur V1, SB165, Meta V5, Revel, HD6. Maybe it’s just the season of life I’m in after buying a new frame every...

This is only true in a certain ecosystem. To not get caught you need significant amounts of money to fund the doping at the edges. Most athletes don’t have it. doping was widely discussed in EWS circles pre UCI merger. The fact doping in sport is illegal in parts of Europe regardless of whether or not your governing body is a wada signitory, and that’s probably what pushed EWS over the edge. At the same time, posting in forums claiming specific, named, athletes have doped, without proof, is shitty behaviour.

To me Enduro is the most interesting and all skills encompassing form of mtb racing. It's just that bike racing (other than Tour de France, which I love watching) as a whole is difficult to package and translate to the TV screen for the masses to enjoy.

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*throwdown