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Don't feel bad, it wasn't just that generation of Meta. Or just that model of Commencal. Lol.
There is a press camp going on in QT from Sram. They are testing what seems to be the new boxxer with charger 3.2, new vivid, new super deluxe and transmition 7 speed with and without battery
and updated mavens?
Does the vivid have damping for the whole stroke again or is it still really stupid?
They did talk about designing an adjustable one with tungsten bars, not sure if this is it or not, could be a plastic cover.
It is really cyclical with Commencal, all their early bikes cracked, then around 2015-2020 they had a great run of overbuilt bikes (at least the metas), now we seem to be back in a period of every bike cracks...
The prototype was presented last year. It is probably the production bike
And they have also show the downhill version
Here the link in french
https://www.velovert.com/news/18688/production-privee-n6-shan-gt-dirt-a…
I think that's it! The pic I saw (can no longer remember where) had a plastic housing like that w/ a bunch slots for short tungsten rods (maybe 2cm*5cm?).
anything known about an updated Zeb?
Dont know if this has been posted yet, but the Demo page on specalized.com has been down for a few days.
semi related/unrelated. Hope we get Brembos released soon with that Demo
Been discussed in this thread many times.
New Charger 3.2 damper
New airs pring
New chassis
New Linear XL chamber in the lower leg
Ultimate may have the dimples on the stanctions for lubrication
Possibly will have adjustable bottom out bumpers
oh, kewl.
As its all but confirmed at this stage that the Enduro is not getting an update any time soon, I find it curious on the Spesh US site that when you search for 'Enduro' you only get two bikes, both low in stock, no Sworks and no frame kit are available any more.
I wonder if they'll continue to stock it going forward with yearly spec and colour changes or just dump the whole line?
Feels like a "dump the whole line" mood from the big S on this one. Which would leave a shockingly thin lineup of full suspension pedal bikes- Epic, Chisel, Stumpy, Status... that's it.
And Spec isn't alone, feels a lot like the Japanese car industry dropping most of its low volume sports car models in the mid-2000s.
Everyone keeps talking about how long travel non-assisted bikes just aren’t selling. People are buying e-bikes in that category. I wouldn’t be surprised if they aren’t in a rush to fill that enduro spot.
I saw something the other day, that said last year the blur and v10 were Santa Cruz’s best selling bikes without motors. The mid to long travel segments are really going to e-bikes these days. Wouldn’t be surprised if specialized isn’t the only one going oops we forgot about our enduro bike for a few years.
I just ordered a Chisel. Originally was going for an Epic Evo but there were none. Went for an Epic and then a Chisel Evo as well. The only thing left in stock in medium between anything in the Epic/Chisel line under 8k was a Chisel comp in one color, so I'm guessing something's coming down the pipe for those models as well unless specialized is finally doing a low stock year to try and kill old inventory. There were a mix other sizes but for bread and butter level bikes in mediums and larges were all low or out of stock
There's a team spec model with the Brembos, so it's just a matter of when they're released. Seems like the brake launch is tied to the bike launch. Curious if the DH transmission launch will be at the same time as Sram was involved in the Demo's development. In Korea, we're only getting the team spec, S-works, and frame-only, so no info on any other models, which makes me curious if Brembo will have a 2nd-tier model at launch.
'21 - '25 demo models already listed in the archive page.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bike-archive?categoryproperty=Mountai…
Blur and V10 are their best selling non ebikes?! Maybe I'm in a bubble in the northeast US, but I know 4 people who bought a SC bike in the past year and they are all Nomads. And others already owned Bronsons. All the middle aged and old guys around here with Santa Cruz ride Tallboys or Hightowers. Can't remember the last time I saw a Blur, and Nomads are so good in the park that only the hardcore DH racers buy V10s.
I find it really hard to believe they sold more v10s than nomads and Hightowers. But I’d agree with the sentiment that more people are in the dh market than say pre pandemic and a lot of people who’d be buying a new nomad are springing for a bullit instead. Would be awesome to get some product managers in here with some sales percentages across their models.
Has anyone ridden the new bit from Diaz yet for the zeb?
https://diazsuspensiondesign.com/shop/the-lower-runt
I been thinking about his for a while. I think they would be stupid to drop such a well known product name/line but at the same time I don't think they see a huge market for that type of bike. My thoughts are they will most likely repurpose the Enduro name at some point for a line of long travel emtbs but not right now. Perhaps in a year or two when motor/battery tech takes a leap.
The Chisel is getting the axe. Specialized is looking to cut “higher” end aluminum bikes out if their line up due to manufacturing and material cost. You’ll only see aluminum hard tails, road, gravel and hybrid. Nothing with pivot points. That’s the rumblings I’ve heard, at least.
I think we’re going to see 2 distinct types of bike manufacturers moving forward
1: Brands that sell enough e-bikes to cash roll standard bike progress/development. Full non e-bike lineups
2: Brands that want to make as much money as possible, huge e-bike lineup, fewer and fewer non e-bike options. 1 or 2 frames that cover everything from trail to enduro with the help of interchangeable shock mounts and links. (New fuel type stuff)
XC and DH frame development is safe. Development will continue. If Bruni or Blevins dominate, those e-bikes will be flying off the shelves lol.
re: enduro - can’t see them retiring the name or the bike. 170 is still extremely relevant despite all the clamor about analog being dead. Can’t go all in on e-bikes yet as legislation is still catching up with innovation: we’re going to see eebs banned in more and more places, being reclassed as motos, power limits being revisited, etc.
Re: chisel FS - Makes sense to me. Riders loved the chisel FS but it was kind of a pig and if you’re speci you’d definitely want to move riders up into the epic family. Never considered how much more work the metal bikes were to manufacture… the chisel HT is a phenomenal bike though. Speci has always fallen into the trap of making every permutation of bike possible, but that’s not economically feasible at this time.
if enduro racing dies at the WC level as rumored, i could certainly see a contraction in that bike segment for non-motorized offerings
to your last point - as I mentioned above, bikes for categories directly linked to world cup racing are safe.
Dammit, that bike is on the shortlist to fill the downcountry hole in my lineup
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