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9/1/2025 2:43am

They don't make the Range anymore? It seemed to me like the big rig enduro bike crowd is Norco's target audience. 

They stopped making it last year actually. They put a longer travel Sight in its place. I have that Range and it’s just phenomenal. I’ve contemplated getting...

They stopped making it last year actually. They put a longer travel Sight in its place. 

I have that Range and it’s just phenomenal. I’ve contemplated getting a Sight to replace it. Shed some weight and get some more playfulness. Not worth it to sell in this market, and it’s just too damn good… Probably going to put a dual crown on it since I’m not sure their downhill bike is ever going to materialize.

This bike is more like a DH rig to me. Put a cascade link on and it is a 200/200mm weapon. 

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9/1/2025 5:16am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
You sure about that? I haven't seen a 4+2 modern Commencal Supreme. Also, we can't tell from this picture if Loris' new bike is a 4+2...

You sure about that? I haven't seen a 4+2 modern Commencal Supreme. Also, we can't tell from this picture if Loris' new bike is a 4+2. The only way we'd know is if we could get a look at the BB area. If there's another link at the front of the chainstay, it's a 6 bar:

I'm almost certain, I think it might be their way of changing the braking characteristics a bit like how teams will mess with floating brake arms. Either that or they're testing shock leverage separate from axle path. 

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9/1/2025 6:00am

As I said, regardless of what they are doing, both variants are 6 bar. 

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9/1/2025 7:01am
Primoz wrote:

As I said, regardless of what they are doing, both variants are 6 bar. 

Yes. The reason I call these a 4+2 is because they're working on the same principle that Knollys do. There are 6 bars in total in the suspension design, but only 4 determine axle path. 

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9/1/2025 7:11am

As I said, both are 6 bars. Neither is a linkage driven Horst link (what you call a 4+2 bar). 

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9/1/2025 7:28am
Primoz wrote:

As I said, regardless of what they are doing, both variants are 6 bar. 

Yes. The reason I call these a 4+2 is because they're working on the same principle that Knollys do. There are 6 bars in total in...

Yes. The reason I call these a 4+2 is because they're working on the same principle that Knollys do. There are 6 bars in total in the suspension design, but only 4 determine axle path. 

No, actually, you're right Primoz, ignore me! 😅 All 6 Bars are working towards axle path due to the push rod between the lower link and rocker, so for all intents and purposes, it's the same link, just upside down like how Forbiddens are an upside down horst link. Having messed with it in linkage and approximated the rear pivot location, I can see how this would be more appropriate for Loris since he's a lighter rider. It has the same travel but a lower initial leverage, and higher initial anti-rise.

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9/1/2025 7:39am
No, actually, you're right Primoz, ignore me! 😅 All 6 Bars are working towards axle path due to the push rod between the lower link and...

No, actually, you're right Primoz, ignore me! 😅 All 6 Bars are working towards axle path due to the push rod between the lower link and rocker, so for all intents and purposes, it's the same link, just upside down like how Forbiddens are an upside down horst link. Having messed with it in linkage and approximated the rear pivot location, I can see how this would be more appropriate for Loris since he's a lighter rider. It has the same travel but a lower initial leverage, and higher initial anti-rise.

Here's my results from messing about in Linkage. The blue is my approximation of Loris' modified version, the pink is the original. 

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Commencal seem to be going above and beyond to accommodate their riders!

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9/1/2025 3:28pm

Now I know how people feel when I’m waxing philosophical about long rear centers…

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9/1/2025 6:30pm

This bike is more like a DH rig to me. Put a cascade link on and it is a 200/200mm weapon. 

I’m guessing you meant WRP, and yes; I’m looking into it. 🤓

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9/1/2025 9:17pm

Not sure if that's less ugly than normal or if I'm just getting used to looking at ebikes.

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9/2/2025 12:33am

More angles on the antidote: Antidote E-bike proto #2

 

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9/2/2025 1:01am

I wonder where the idler mounts to... 

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9/2/2025 1:16am

They say "It will be so much more than just another e-bike". It looks great but I predict it'll just be another e-bike. 

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9/2/2025 3:08am

The Antidote looks really slim, own battery tech, 600Wh only or what is it?

Regarding the "much more than just another one", I guess it is the same service offerings that make all their other bikes also unique, custom paint, repaint options, ...

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9/2/2025 3:44am
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The Antidote looks really slim, own battery tech, 600Wh only or what is it?Regarding the "much more than just another one", I guess it is the...

The Antidote looks really slim, own battery tech, 600Wh only or what is it?

Regarding the "much more than just another one", I guess it is the same service offerings that make all their other bikes also unique, custom paint, repaint options, ...

Bosch does not allow third party batteries so it is probably a 600w.

Weird that bikes that come with Bosch looks a bit outdated after you see the form factor of DJI equipped bikes.

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9/2/2025 6:30am

Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from instagram but can't seem to find them anymore...IMG 9630 0

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9/2/2025 6:34am
Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from...

Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from instagram but can't seem to find them anymore...IMG 9630 0

Scottish Flag makes me believe that this is a World Champs special paint job

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9/2/2025 6:43am
Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from...

Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from instagram but can't seem to find them anymore...IMG 9630 0

Just a World's thing. Jesse Melamad also had a custom two-tone caliper with the flag and name on his red levers. So we should expect to see similar stuff on the DH bikes!

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9/2/2025 6:52am
Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from...

Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from instagram but can't seem to find them anymore...IMG 9630 0

GRM50 wrote:

Scottish Flag makes me believe that this is a World Champs special paint job

i always love seeing the special paint jobs, customizations, and other details for worlds bikes. 

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9/2/2025 7:20am
Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from...

Anyone else catch a glimpse of the blue Maven brakes? I am wondering if this is the next limited color way... I took a screenshot from instagram but can't seem to find them anymore...IMG 9630 0

You need to be a true Scotsman to buy them.

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9/2/2025 8:07am
ballz wrote:

You need to be a true Scotsman to buy them.

The paradox is if you're a true Scotsman you'd never spend the money. 🤣

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9/2/2025 9:29am
sspomer wrote:
probably more for "spec rumors" thread but S-Works Levo 4 LTD version is $19,999 - FOX Podium, Cane Creek Electric Wings Ti cranks, Trickstuff brakes.https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-4-ltd/p/4260592?color=5442214-4260592 

probably more for "spec rumors" thread but S-Works Levo 4 LTD version is $19,999 - FOX Podium, Cane Creek Electric Wings Ti cranks, Trickstuff brakes.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-4-ltd/p/4260592?color=5442214-4260592

20%2C000-dollar-Specialized-Levo4-2

 

A $20,000 electric bowling ball. Don’t ever change Specialized…

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9/2/2025 9:30am
sspomer wrote:
probably more for "spec rumors" thread but S-Works Levo 4 LTD version is $19,999 - FOX Podium, Cane Creek Electric Wings Ti cranks, Trickstuff brakes.https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-4-ltd/p/4260592?color=5442214-4260592 

probably more for "spec rumors" thread but S-Works Levo 4 LTD version is $19,999 - FOX Podium, Cane Creek Electric Wings Ti cranks, Trickstuff brakes.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-4-ltd/p/4260592?color=5442214-4260592

20%2C000-dollar-Specialized-Levo4-2

 

Crazy world we live in

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9/2/2025 9:43am

Some will pay and be happy to do so. I guess the bike will be brilliant

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9/2/2025 9:43am
sspomer wrote:
probably more for "spec rumors" thread but S-Works Levo 4 LTD version is $19,999 - FOX Podium, Cane Creek Electric Wings Ti cranks, Trickstuff brakes.https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-4-ltd/p/4260592?color=5442214-4260592 

probably more for "spec rumors" thread but S-Works Levo 4 LTD version is $19,999 - FOX Podium, Cane Creek Electric Wings Ti cranks, Trickstuff brakes.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-4-ltd/p/4260592?color=5442214-4260592

20%2C000-dollar-Specialized-Levo4-2

 

A $20,000 electric bowling ball. Don’t ever change Specialized…

Literally came in, first reply, and wrote comment of the year. Well done.

Seriously Spomer can we get a comment of the year article in January, just because this comment shant be forgotten lol. Def a 'once you see it, you can't unsee it' moment.

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9/2/2025 9:53am
ballz wrote:

You need to be a true Scotsman to buy them.

veefour wrote:

The paradox is if you're a true Scotsman you'd never spend the money. 🤣

Missed oppo to phrase it as "no true Scotsman would spend the money"

(And for those wondering what we're on about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman)

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