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Primoz
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7/27/2025 1:23am

Now you can have two shocks setup completely wrongly. 

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7/27/2025 2:50am

There should be some sort of fine handed out to companies who unjustly run frame diapers

Idk it was a flex when Orbea did it and it was really only hiding the travel adjust link and how good the bike looks. Then they tied it together with a win in its first WC. They didn’t have the diaper on that long at least.

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7/27/2025 5:28am
Idk it was a flex when Orbea did it and it was really only hiding the travel adjust link and how good the bike looks. Then...

Idk it was a flex when Orbea did it and it was really only hiding the travel adjust link and how good the bike looks. Then they tied it together with a win in its first WC. They didn’t have the diaper on that long at least.

Watching Tahnee pull the little diaper off as if anyone cared was pretty funny 

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Big Bird
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7/27/2025 8:13am

I've heard of dyneema being used for applications where you don't want your rope to stretch, but never dyneema fibre composites. That's actually really cool.

I used to splice dyneema DUX for sail boat rigging. Part of the process was a pre stretch to settle in the splice and get any stretching done before the customer used it. After the truck winch exploded on me we switched to hydraulic rams. That stuff is crazy strong.

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7/27/2025 2:01pm
jazza_wil wrote:

$15000usd Sram level brakes 

What does it look like? 

Not like that, I'll tell you that for free.

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7/27/2025 2:08pm
jazza_wil wrote:

$15000usd Sram level brakes 

went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earlier

can vital get one on the 15 day free trial for review?

https://blulans.com/products/blulans-s10

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7/27/2025 5:26pm
jazza_wil wrote:

$15000usd Sram level brakes 

went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earliercan vital get one...

went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earlier

can vital get one on the 15 day free trial for review?

https://blulans.com/products/blulans-s10

The single review on the site is something to behold:


"Blulans? Mor like BluAwesome!

S11ULT a bit more expensive than a handful of bikes but this is carbon fiber and you know what that is to mean: top of the notches and the best buck bang on the market area. I have one in my dreams and in the garageway I are many reasons for superior performance.
Firstly is one shock and then another shock. The response is overwhelming.
For the number 2 reason is the Blulang legacy and industry leading excellence. If you are familiar with Role Royce or the highest level Egypt cotton bedsheets it is nothing different.
For ending the list of benefits it should be illustrated the power and finesse of the riding experience. Dominate all."

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owl-x
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7/27/2025 6:41pm

suspension guy please draw the wheel action on this dual-shock puppy. Gimme one of those stick figure squish pics. Thanks in advance. 

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7/27/2025 6:42pm

king crab link?

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boozed
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7/27/2025 6:42pm
went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earliercan vital get one...

went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earlier

can vital get one on the 15 day free trial for review?

https://blulans.com/products/blulans-s10

I think these Chinese mushroom brands are going to be a source of entertainment for a good long time to come.

The product image on the website shows one Flight Attendant and one Base shock, which is even more weird.

S11ULT-1%5B1%5D.png?VersionId=9.c5

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7/27/2025 7:38pm
went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earliercan vital get one...

went to their site for funsies and discovered they have a $48k eeb that seems no different from the $15k one posted earlier

can vital get one on the 15 day free trial for review?

https://blulans.com/products/blulans-s10

boozed wrote:
I think these Chinese mushroom brands are going to be a source of entertainment for a good long time to come.The product image on the website...

I think these Chinese mushroom brands are going to be a source of entertainment for a good long time to come.

The product image on the website shows one Flight Attendant and one Base shock, which is even more weird.

S11ULT-1%5B1%5D.png?VersionId=9.c5

...and it has a kickstand. 🤣

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boozed
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7/27/2025 8:33pm
owl-x wrote:

suspension guy please draw the wheel action on this dual-shock puppy. Gimme one of those stick figure squish pics. Thanks in advance. 

I think it's just a common or garden Horst linkage with the extra shock connected via a yoke to the rocker

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Primoz
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7/27/2025 9:24pm

It is. 

7/27/2025 9:42pm

I especially like the front brake hose routing 🤣

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7/27/2025 9:58pm Edited Date/Time 7/27/2025 10:00pm

Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to pick a base tune for two identical shocks working in parallel on a fairly normal leverage rate.

The funny thing with the one flight attendant shock is that, in that dual shock layout, every time the FA shock locked out it would make the suspension twice as soft by diverting all the force to the other shock. 

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7/27/2025 10:09pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to...

Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to pick a base tune for two identical shocks working in parallel on a fairly normal leverage rate.

The funny thing with the one flight attendant shock is that, in that dual shock layout, every time the FA shock locked out it would make the suspension twice as soft by diverting all the force to the other shock. 

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

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7/27/2025 10:32pm
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level of thinking is not happening here. Like someone else pointed out, it has a kickstand. 

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7/27/2025 10:36pm
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level...

If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level of thinking is not happening here. Like someone else pointed out, it has a kickstand. 

That Cannondale proto is still going, albeit without the second shock... Josh Bryceland rode it at Hardline.

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7/27/2025 11:23pm
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

Yeah, cannodale engineers now work for this chinese guys 🤣

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7/28/2025 1:05am
owl-x wrote:

suspension guy please draw the wheel action on this dual-shock puppy. Gimme one of those stick figure squish pics. Thanks in advance. 

I'm sorry, you literally cannot do this configuration in linkage Sad  

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7/28/2025 3:29am Edited Date/Time 7/28/2025 3:31am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to...

Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to pick a base tune for two identical shocks working in parallel on a fairly normal leverage rate.

The funny thing with the one flight attendant shock is that, in that dual shock layout, every time the FA shock locked out it would make the suspension twice as soft by diverting all the force to the other shock. 

Or...

How heavy is this bike that it takes 2 shocks with maxed out air pressure to make it work?

 

Also

"Yo, i heard you like shocks so we put a shock on your shock."

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badIuck
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7/28/2025 3:42am
owl-x wrote:

suspension guy please draw the wheel action on this dual-shock puppy. Gimme one of those stick figure squish pics. Thanks in advance. 

I'm sorry, you literally cannot do this configuration in linkage Sad  

You can just analyze it with one of the two shocks. Result is the same for everything but forces on the shocks. and rocker.

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7/28/2025 3:59am
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level...

If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level of thinking is not happening here. Like someone else pointed out, it has a kickstand. 

The kickstand is the pinnacle of the kickstand world... There are no better kickstands to be found anywhere..

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Primoz
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7/28/2025 4:42am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to...

Not that anyone ever would ever bother to do this on the dumb two-shock ebike, but I’m trying to imagine how hard it would be to pick a base tune for two identical shocks working in parallel on a fairly normal leverage rate.

The funny thing with the one flight attendant shock is that, in that dual shock layout, every time the FA shock locked out it would make the suspension twice as soft by diverting all the force to the other shock. 

No, the two shocks are in parallel, not series. Having them in series would make it half as stiff. Having them parallel makes it much stiffer still. 

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7/28/2025 8:05am
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level...

If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level of thinking is not happening here. Like someone else pointed out, it has a kickstand. 

I agree this isn’t the case. Just was meaning the theory behind using 2.


Apparently this bike auto adjusts the suspension also….🤭

IMG 7550
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7/28/2025 8:36am
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level...

If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level of thinking is not happening here. Like someone else pointed out, it has a kickstand. 

The kickstand is the pinnacle of the kickstand world... There are no better kickstands to be found anywhere..

But is it carbon fiber?

 

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7/28/2025 8:53am

if blulahahlhlah had some kind of OE deal w/ its spec, at what point do the component brands that support these efforts need to be held accountable? 🤮

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7/28/2025 8:58am

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I'm in. 

Does anyone know of a good credit union, going to have to finance this since it cost more than my Wagoneer L

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7/28/2025 9:05am
The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are...

The way it should work with the dual shock is that one is spring rate and one in damping. Not sure if that’s what they are doing in this case, but that’s the reason it’s been done in the past.

TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level...

If we were talking about that rad Cannondale proto that Matt Simmonds was on a few years ago, then yes, but I’m beyond certain that level of thinking is not happening here. Like someone else pointed out, it has a kickstand. 

I agree this isn’t the case. Just was meaning the theory behind using 2.Apparently this bike auto adjusts the suspension also….🤭

I agree this isn’t the case. Just was meaning the theory behind using 2.


Apparently this bike auto adjusts the suspension also….🤭

IMG 7550

the use of "roughest paths" tells you the intended market. It's like the chef kiss of the entire marketing campaign. 

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7/28/2025 9:26am

I'm going to take a moment to lay out a real tech based reason that a dual shock bike could be useful. Not because I think it's where this bike was going and not because I necessarily think it's a good idea. Just for the fun of it. Each shock has its own leverage curve. You could use this to create an effective leverage curve anywhere between the two by proportionally changing the amount of support you are getting from each shock. Let's say one leverage curve was 30% progression and the other was 10%... you could alter how each shock is tuned to get a 20% curve. Or 21%. Or any number in between the two bounds. This would be an absolute rabbit hole of course, but you could call it infinite effective leverage curve tuning if you wanted.

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