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6/25/2025 11:29am
Most 15mm axles are hollow aluminum. The easiest solutions to making them stiffer is to not hollow them out, and/or to make them from steel or...

Most 15mm axles are hollow aluminum. The easiest solutions to making them stiffer is to not hollow them out, and/or to make them from steel or titanium. I've not done the calculations (@Primoz, didn't you do that?), but I imagine it could be as stiff as thin walled aluminum 20mm axles.

If you look at huck to flat videos it seems that the worst of the flex is at or around the crown. The most productive solution for single crown forks might be to return to 100mm OLD - a 10% narrower CSU would be 10% stiffer.

Apparently axle material proved to be a significant factor in the Fox Podium design. Honestly changing material is so elementary I'm surprised I'd not heard mention of it before. 

“the axle becomes a huge tuning parameter when you take away the arch on the lowers.”

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6/25/2025 11:31am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2025 11:38am
dolface wrote:

Mismatched wheels in the website pic too; front is Back Inc. rear is from Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/KOOZER-TR30-Bicycle-rims-MTB-bik…

Koozer, now that's a name I like. 

I don't know much about film cameras, etc. but it looks like Tilta does not F around with product.

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6/25/2025 11:32am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2025 11:34am

Using weed based composites in vehicle production is nothing new, they were doing it years ago. 🤣

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6/25/2025 11:38am

If I had to guess, that zip-tie on the linkage is so people don't try to cycle the linkage because the shock doesn't work. 

I find it much more likely that the rear shock isn't pressurized than someone went through all the effort to make that frame but it doesn't work. It's way easier to make a bike frame (especially with that lugs-and-tubes design) than a functioning rear shock that can contain the 200psi people will cram in it.

I have doubts the company will survive coming into the market with such a wide range of offerings, historically it seems better to start niche and branch out...

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6/25/2025 11:39am
dolface wrote:

Mismatched wheels in the website pic too; front is Back Inc. rear is from Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/KOOZER-TR30-Bicycle-rims-MTB-bik…

Koozer, now that's a name I like. 

I don't know much about film cameras, etc. but it looks like Tilta does not F around with product.

NDS view here: 

 

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6/25/2025 1:34pm
dolface wrote:

NDS view here: 

 

Looks like that a P-line pinion gearbox with Stablead’s own servo motor/battery attachment? I mean that’s certainly not the craziest part of the bike, but interesting to see.

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Stable Ad?

Stab Lead? 

how are we supposed to read that?

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Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

2022-12-27-0056

Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to. Thank god for the widespread adoption of through axles.

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6/25/2025 3:15pm
peecee wrote:
Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

2022-12-27-0056
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to...

Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to. Thank god for the widespread adoption of through axles.

I can't imagine landing my whip/kickouts these days on QR rear axles... sheesh.

Also, Rockshox just needs to revive the Totem fork in response to Fox's USD hype. Totem with Charger 3, galvanised lower with updated OG tribal decals. KeepTorque Caps ready like all the current forks. Speaking of torque caps, I just converted my E13 front hubs with their torque cup adapters. I guess the steering feel more precise....I think. :D

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peecee wrote:
Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

2022-12-27-0056
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to...

Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to. Thank god for the widespread adoption of through axles.

Oddly enough Lopes is involved with the Stablead bike somehow:

In 2025, we were honored to welcome legendary champion rider Brian Lopes to the Stablead family. His invaluable insights and unparalleled experience will shape every product we create. Moving forward, all Stablead components will undergo rigorous testing and validation by Brian and other top riders”

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6/25/2025 4:47pm
peecee wrote:
Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

Whats old is new again! The 2002 Maxxis Bling Bling 

2022-12-27-0056
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to...

Crazy to see that tire on a QR front wheel. I remember my QR Psylo, which Lopes' 2002 Dual front wheel was almost assuredly mounted to. Thank god for the widespread adoption of through axles.

dolface wrote:
Oddly enough Lopes is involved with the Stablead bike somehow:“In 2025, we were honored to welcome legendary champion rider Brian Lopes to the Stablead family. His...

Oddly enough Lopes is involved with the Stablead bike somehow:

In 2025, we were honored to welcome legendary champion rider Brian Lopes to the Stablead family. His invaluable insights and unparalleled experience will shape every product we create. Moving forward, all Stablead components will undergo rigorous testing and validation by Brian and other top riders”

Well I guess Stablead has no intentions of selling shirts

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6/25/2025 6:38pm
jonkranked wrote:

Stable Ad?

Stab Lead? 

how are we supposed to read that?

I suspect we're supposed to read it backwards. 

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jonkranked wrote:

Stable Ad?

Stab Lead? 

how are we supposed to read that?

ballz wrote:

I suspect we're supposed to read it backwards. 

I’m just going to think stale bread every time I look at that name. 

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6/25/2025 10:47pm
jonkranked wrote:

Stable Ad?

Stab Lead? 

how are we supposed to read that?

St Ablead

After the 14th century St. Ablead who removed carbon waste from the South China Sea by hand, sacrificing himself in the process.

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I first thought it’s kinda weird for an American company to present their stuff on Eurobike first and foremost - but then I read their Wikipedia page:

Tilta's operations include multiple locations in and around Shenzhen, China. Since 2016, Tilta has operated a US-based showroom, warehouse, repair center and offices in Burbank, California


I guess it makes sense then

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6/26/2025 3:58am
If I had to guess, that zip-tie on the linkage is so people don't try to cycle the linkage because the shock doesn't work. I find it...

If I had to guess, that zip-tie on the linkage is so people don't try to cycle the linkage because the shock doesn't work. 

I find it much more likely that the rear shock isn't pressurized than someone went through all the effort to make that frame but it doesn't work. It's way easier to make a bike frame (especially with that lugs-and-tubes design) than a functioning rear shock that can contain the 200psi people will cram in it.

I have doubts the company will survive coming into the market with such a wide range of offerings, historically it seems better to start niche and branch out...

Especially since (I'm assuming) the shock has been flown from cali to europe, so it'll have to have the air taken out for that regardless. 

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St Ablead

After the 14th century St. Ablead who removed carbon waste from the South China Sea by hand, sacrificing himself in the process.

Sounds like a town in Cornwall. 

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If I had to guess, that zip-tie on the linkage is so people don't try to cycle the linkage because the shock doesn't work. I find it...

If I had to guess, that zip-tie on the linkage is so people don't try to cycle the linkage because the shock doesn't work. 

I find it much more likely that the rear shock isn't pressurized than someone went through all the effort to make that frame but it doesn't work. It's way easier to make a bike frame (especially with that lugs-and-tubes design) than a functioning rear shock that can contain the 200psi people will cram in it.

I have doubts the company will survive coming into the market with such a wide range of offerings, historically it seems better to start niche and branch out...

Especially since (I'm assuming) the shock has been flown from cali to europe, so it'll have to have the air taken out for that regardless. 

No need to do that. 

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Somebody made this on one of the vintage downhill pages, I’m still giggling.

Somebody made this on one of the vintage downhill pages, I’m still giggling.

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That was me, it needed to happen 🤣

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Lol yeah pressure at sea level is under 15psi. You can take your fork into a perfect vacuum and it's going to gain very little gauge pressure.

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peecee wrote:

That was me, it needed to happen 🤣

Ah, I see you’re also a man of culture…


IMG 0858.jpeg?VersionId=EZT12JU.c2wCtikeFhb11sX3iJPY

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6/26/2025 6:49am Edited Date/Time 6/26/2025 6:51am

Okay big conspiracy time. The podium fork has been made for a long time. Fox was waiting for the traditional design of their forks to plateau in innovation and sales before “being the first”. It weighs so much on purpose because their next gen of the fork (which is already made and designed) will be bigger news than the second coming of Jesus. Then after that it will be even bigger with slight updates to the damper that work for USD forks even better, and EVEN LESS WEIGHT. But if they released the fork as perfect on day 1, what respectable dentist/engineer would buy that same 5 year old fork that works perfectly fine and may even win EWS races left and right?


PS: Dear Cannondale, its time… do it… blow us away.

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6/26/2025 7:16am Edited Date/Time 6/26/2025 7:18am

Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram comments they said their own brakes should be coming out in 2026.

https://galfer.eu/bike/galfer-takes-its-shark-line-to-the-next-level-with-the-new-disc-shark-evo-for-mtb/

 

technical-info-1024x757.jpg?VersionId=omT

 

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6/26/2025 8:35am Edited Date/Time 6/26/2025 9:06am
sprungmass wrote:
Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram...

Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram comments they said their own brakes should be coming out in 2026.

https://galfer.eu/bike/galfer-takes-its-shark-line-to-the-next-level-with-the-new-disc-shark-evo-for-mtb/

 

technical-info-1024x757.jpg?VersionId=omT

 

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When the Kashima boyz realized they can match their factory suspension

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more photos of the prototype zeb.

from the photog - Ella Conolly, Dan Booker and Jesse Melamed were the ones to run it here on the first practice day in Canazei. There is a cover on the left bottom side, maybe some new dials….new lowers and new bridge, so looks like a brand new fork not just some upgrade. It looks like all of them run it in 170mm travel

20250626 UCI EDR WC Canazei SR33429
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sspomer wrote:
more photos of the prototype zeb.from the photog - Ella Conolly, Dan Booker and Jesse Melamed were the ones to run it here on the first...

more photos of the prototype zeb.

from the photog - Ella Conolly, Dan Booker and Jesse Melamed were the ones to run it here on the first practice day in Canazei. There is a cover on the left bottom side, maybe some new dials….new lowers and new bridge, so looks like a brand new fork not just some upgrade. It looks like all of them run it in 170mm travel

20250626 UCI EDR WC Canazei SR33429

Looks like they're covering a bleed port?

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6/26/2025 9:21am
sprungmass wrote:
Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram...

Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram comments they said their own brakes should be coming out in 2026.

https://galfer.eu/bike/galfer-takes-its-shark-line-to-the-next-level-with-the-new-disc-shark-evo-for-mtb/

 

technical-info-1024x757.jpg?VersionId=omT

 

Doesn't look floating from the provided materials. 

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sspomer wrote:
more photos of the prototype zeb.from the photog - Ella Conolly, Dan Booker and Jesse Melamed were the ones to run it here on the first...

more photos of the prototype zeb.

from the photog - Ella Conolly, Dan Booker and Jesse Melamed were the ones to run it here on the first practice day in Canazei. There is a cover on the left bottom side, maybe some new dials….new lowers and new bridge, so looks like a brand new fork not just some upgrade. It looks like all of them run it in 170mm travel

20250626 UCI EDR WC Canazei SR33429
jsray wrote:

Looks like they're covering a bleed port?

My speculation is that the lower cover is some sort of brake sensor, given that all 3 of the forks are Flight Attendant.  And maybe the funky plastic cover on the arch houses more sensors/processors/transmitters.

Brake hose clamp looks different too, to go with the reshaped lowers.

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6/26/2025 10:12am
sprungmass wrote:
Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram...

Galfer released floating shark rotors. The Kashima one would look pretty rad a Podium fork. Too bad it is not 2.3mm thick. Also in their Instagram comments they said their own brakes should be coming out in 2026.

https://galfer.eu/bike/galfer-takes-its-shark-line-to-the-next-level-with-the-new-disc-shark-evo-for-mtb/

 

technical-info-1024x757.jpg?VersionId=omT

 

Primoz wrote:

Doesn't look floating from the provided materials. 

Fixed

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jonkranked wrote:

Well I guess Stablead has no intentions of selling shirts

Zing.

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