Sounds in the ballpark for the new fork - they run way higher pressures due to the smaller chamber diameter and large negative spring. An average...
Sounds in the ballpark for the new fork - they run way higher pressures due to the smaller chamber diameter and large negative spring. An average dude would be in the 170psi bracket so someone like Luca could easily be at 200, especially if that has a larger positive chamber
And no, that doesn't look like a normal rockshox part
Agreed, adding volume to reduce the ramp up. I was 180-185psi ish. No spacers or 1 spacer. About 180lb when I had that fork. Luca being lighter weight but 10x faster could easy be 180-220psi.
(Edit: from PB “Luca is running 200 psi in his Boxxer fork with zero tokens in it, and the rebound is set to 10 clicks from the closed position.”)
That fork has crazy progression but very soft initial stroke because large neg chamber. I tried to make the neg chamber smaller which let me use less air to get sag and that reduced the ramp but then it was topping out super hard.
Agreed, adding volume to reduce the ramp up. I was 180-185psi ish. No spacers or 1 spacer. About 180lb when I had that fork. Luca being...
Agreed, adding volume to reduce the ramp up. I was 180-185psi ish. No spacers or 1 spacer. About 180lb when I had that fork. Luca being lighter weight but 10x faster could easy be 180-220psi.
(Edit: from PB “Luca is running 200 psi in his Boxxer fork with zero tokens in it, and the rebound is set to 10 clicks from the closed position.”)
That fork has crazy progression but very soft initial stroke because large neg chamber. I tried to make the neg chamber smaller which let me use less air to get sag and that reduced the ramp but then it was topping out super hard.
When you reduce neg. Volume on fork with EQ ports the fork should top out less or even not reach full extension. Something else must have been the issue there, your thinking was absolutely correct.
I had a flex stay stumpy and an epic Evo. I hate how they feel. They are chattery. The undamped spring has a distinct buzz to...
I had a flex stay stumpy and an epic Evo. I hate how they feel. They are chattery. The undamped spring has a distinct buzz to it (owned the alloy stumpy before and that felt great!!!) Horrible if you pay attention to your bike/enjoy how good a bike can feel. I get the idea but yeah, putting an undamped spring on that side of the shock does not feel good.
The ride characteristics flex stay bikes give is subjective. Not everyone likes them which is clearly your point of view, but you don’t speak for everyone. I...
The ride characteristics flex stay bikes give is subjective. Not everyone likes them which is clearly your point of view, but you don’t speak for everyone.
I have the flex stay Stumpjumper and an Evo. They both have their pros and cons. If I am riding a flow trail or something that’s not too rowdy, the flex stay feels awesome as you get so much energy back for what you put in. On the other hand it gets overwhelmed quickly in chunk and that’s where the Evo does better and if I had one, an Enduro would do better again.
Both are good bikes but have different use cases. I find myself picking the flex stay Stumpjumper more often as I enjoy the energetic feeling it provides.
This.
Flex stay bikes feel really fast on flow trails, when you perfectly land on the downslope of something they shoot you forward and if you pump they give it all back.
But in the chattery crap I ride (CTX) flex stays really suck as they are harsh and don't track well; unable to cope with the very rapid wheel movements required in quick succession. No amount of suspension adjustment can change this, imo.
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?
damn no 180 for a single crown that rides like a dual crown.
I am not sure about that. There isnt an option to purchase in that configuration but maybe there is an option for a longer air spring. There might be diminishing returns on this design as you go longer so maybe they limit to 170?
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as...
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?
Weight looks to be identical as well. Why is it so heavy compared to pushs coil fork
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as...
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?
do you need to send the fox one back to inspection right after purchase too?
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as...
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?
do you need to send the fox one back to inspection right after purchase too?
Good point only if fox didnt have the the most failing shock with the x2. I would probably bet on Push's qc over fox's but I get it, its better to back the big corporate guys and shit on the little guys. AM I RITEEE!
Correct.
Agreed, adding volume to reduce the ramp up. I was 180-185psi ish. No spacers or 1 spacer. About 180lb when I had that fork. Luca being lighter weight but 10x faster could easy be 180-220psi.
(Edit: from PB “Luca is running 200 psi in his Boxxer fork with zero tokens in it, and the rebound is set to 10 clicks from the closed position.”)
That fork has crazy progression but very soft initial stroke because large neg chamber. I tried to make the neg chamber smaller which let me use less air to get sag and that reduced the ramp but then it was topping out super hard.
11am central 🦊🙃
When you reduce neg. Volume on fork with EQ ports the fork should top out less or even not reach full extension. Something else must have been the issue there, your thinking was absolutely correct.
This.
Flex stay bikes feel really fast on flow trails, when you perfectly land on the downslope of something they shoot you forward and if you pump they give it all back.
But in the chattery crap I ride (CTX) flex stays really suck as they are harsh and don't track well; unable to cope with the very rapid wheel movements required in quick succession. No amount of suspension adjustment can change this, imo.
Aw looks like someone messed up the time zones
Needs Radial Tyres instead of maxxis for maximum hype and aura imo.
MSRP 2k
anyone know if its only 170? I guess i could wait 30 mins
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?
There is a 160 version as well
FYI- there going to be about 5x 170 and 5x 160 in stock and available in the us so go to your LBS and buy one now if you want one.
damn no 180 for a single crown that rides like a dual crown.
How that make any sense?
I am not sure about that. There isnt an option to purchase in that configuration but maybe there is an option for a longer air spring. There might be diminishing returns on this design as you go longer so maybe they limit to 170?
I guess I should have said this distributor will only have this many but if your LBS has a direct account with fox they will probably have more.
Weight looks to be identical as well. Why is it so heavy compared to pushs coil fork
Just as heavy as a dual crown though... 😬
do you need to send the fox one back to inspection right after purchase too?
Good point only if fox didnt have the the most failing shock with the x2. I would probably bet on Push's qc over fox's but I get it, its better to back the big corporate guys and shit on the little guys. AM I RITEEE!
live on fox's website:
https://ridefox.com/products/podium
My first thoughts are that the brake cable rattling around in them guides is going to be noisy and distracting
FOX Podium discussion thread - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/fox-podium-inverted-mtb-fork-questions-answers-reviews
Charlie's review
Charlie's discussion with Jordi, Neko and Ariel about the fork's development
Deep dive written review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/forks/fox/podium-67071
And the new Shimano mtb shoes are $200. $2,000 for a fork seems… reasonable? God I hate how that feels to say.
I wonder if we’ll see an update to the Fox 38 that we’ve seen roll out with other Fox products like an update air shaft assembly.