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Wild guess here that nobody has made yet....but maybe it's a TMD? 

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Few details about the new PP bikes : - Shan n°6 : 160mm enduro bike (n°5 has 140mm), 64.5° HA, 450mm CS length- Shan DH : no...

Few details about the new PP bikes : 
- Shan n°6 : 160mm enduro bike (n°5 has 140mm), 64.5° HA, 450mm CS length

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- Shan DH : no details but looking good with a similar layout but specific ratios.
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So they copied the homework from Sour Bicycle Double Choc prototype, which was copied from Foes' Ridgeback? Not saying it's a bad thing, mind you.

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6/11/2025 3:47pm

Confirmed mid june for shimano's next drop.

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Whens the Fox USD drop? Remember the word being in June

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Few details about the new PP bikes : - Shan n°6 : 160mm enduro bike (n°5 has 140mm), 64.5° HA, 450mm CS length- Shan DH : no...

Few details about the new PP bikes : 
- Shan n°6 : 160mm enduro bike (n°5 has 140mm), 64.5° HA, 450mm CS length

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- Shan DH : no details but looking good with a similar layout but specific ratios.
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HexonJuan wrote:
So they copied the homework from Sour Bicycle Double Choc prototype, which was copied from Foes' Ridgeback? Not saying it's a bad thing, mind you.

So they copied the homework from Sour Bicycle Double Choc prototype, which was copied from Foes' Ridgeback? Not saying it's a bad thing, mind you.

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It’s a fairly classic suspension layout to be fair.

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Whens the Fox USD drop? Remember the word being in June

My money is on mid July

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6/11/2025 7:48pm Edited Date/Time 6/11/2025 7:49pm
hukriede wrote:
Hannah Bergemann on a new Transition. Looks to be the same as what was spotted a while ago on a chairlift somewhere. They just "re-did" the...

Hannah Bergemann on a new Transition. Looks to be the same as what was spotted a while ago on a chairlift somewhere. They just "re-did" the TR11 so don't think it's that. Definitely meant to be DH only as that seat tube is quite short. Lower shock mount also looks different that their current alloy offerings. Could it be a new freeride specific bike? Just a special build for Hannah?

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Lips are sealed but more than one of those things are true Smile  

hukriede wrote:

Just guessing that it’s going to be like a “Party Patrol”. Mixed wheel,190/180 front 180 rear and alloy only.

If I had to guess it would be a 200-180 27.5 bike and a 200-200 29-27 dh bike in the same front triangle with different chain/ seatstays with different shocks (225x70 or 75). They need a free ride bike.  There marketing is awful right now with them saying “hey look a race bike!” But every single well known rider they sponsor is on a full 27.5 tr-11   Shit they even had their website back ground of one with a bomber 58 after their faq says don’t run a 27.5 fork lol.

this bike looks totally finished and painted. It’s ready but I’m sure there just trying to clear out older stuff. 
To add the next tr-11 is 100% ready. A quick kiwi was spotted a few months back on it Smile  

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Now that the Industry 9 and WeAreOne merger is official, they are planning on adding more bike components in the lineup. Carbon cranks made in their...

Now that the Industry 9 and WeAreOne merger is official, they are planning on adding more bike components in the lineup. Carbon cranks made in their Asheville factory are on top of their list followed by brakes. Clint and Dustin hinted towards brainstorming wireless brakes which is wild. They also officially closed the idea of a new Arrival bike so that won't be happening again.

So WaO will be carbon stuff and i9 will be alloy stuff made in the same factory? Will be interesting as i9 can use their machining...

So WaO will be carbon stuff and i9 will be alloy stuff made in the same factory? Will be interesting as i9 can use their machining to make moulds for carbon components.

Good interview on PB, they go throught everything. Enjoyed thr listen. 

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Apple Air Tag is my guess, can't have another bike stolen! I keep mine in the steerer.

Etney wrote:
As others have said, its a TMD, more specifically Rimpacts that was newly launched: https://www.rimpactmtb.com/tmd  

As others have said, its a TMD, more specifically Rimpacts that was newly launched: https://www.rimpactmtb.com/tmd

 

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Someone needs to design a Tuned Mass Damper / MultiTool combo. Where the tool takes place of the mass inside :D

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Lips are sealed but more than one of those things are true Smile  

hukriede wrote:

Just guessing that it’s going to be like a “Party Patrol”. Mixed wheel,190/180 front 180 rear and alloy only.

If I had to guess it would be a 200-180 27.5 bike and a 200-200 29-27 dh bike in the same front triangle with different chain/...

If I had to guess it would be a 200-180 27.5 bike and a 200-200 29-27 dh bike in the same front triangle with different chain/ seatstays with different shocks (225x70 or 75). They need a free ride bike.  There marketing is awful right now with them saying “hey look a race bike!” But every single well known rider they sponsor is on a full 27.5 tr-11   Shit they even had their website back ground of one with a bomber 58 after their faq says don’t run a 27.5 fork lol.

this bike looks totally finished and painted. It’s ready but I’m sure there just trying to clear out older stuff. 
To add the next tr-11 is 100% ready. A quick kiwi was spotted a few months back on it Smile  

All great ideas there. I do find it weird that they released that refresh (or whatever you want to call it) of the TR11 in May with updated colors, spec, and apparently some kinematic changes. So I guess like you are saying there will be a "race" DH bike and a "play" dh/freeride bike. Also, would assume you are referring to George Brannigan, I know he has been riding this updated TR11 as of late. Can't say I have seen him riding this new bike that was spotted though. do you have any photos of him on it?  

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Looks like a good place to hide a airtag 

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veefour wrote:
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Looks like a good place to hide a airtag 

There is zero room to hide an airtag in the TMD

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hukriede wrote:

Just guessing that it’s going to be like a “Party Patrol”. Mixed wheel,190/180 front 180 rear and alloy only.

If I had to guess it would be a 200-180 27.5 bike and a 200-200 29-27 dh bike in the same front triangle with different chain/...

If I had to guess it would be a 200-180 27.5 bike and a 200-200 29-27 dh bike in the same front triangle with different chain/ seatstays with different shocks (225x70 or 75). They need a free ride bike.  There marketing is awful right now with them saying “hey look a race bike!” But every single well known rider they sponsor is on a full 27.5 tr-11   Shit they even had their website back ground of one with a bomber 58 after their faq says don’t run a 27.5 fork lol.

this bike looks totally finished and painted. It’s ready but I’m sure there just trying to clear out older stuff. 
To add the next tr-11 is 100% ready. A quick kiwi was spotted a few months back on it Smile  

hukriede wrote:
All great ideas there. I do find it weird that they released that refresh (or whatever you want to call it) of the TR11 in May...

All great ideas there. I do find it weird that they released that refresh (or whatever you want to call it) of the TR11 in May with updated colors, spec, and apparently some kinematic changes. So I guess like you are saying there will be a "race" DH bike and a "play" dh/freeride bike. Also, would assume you are referring to George Brannigan, I know he has been riding this updated TR11 as of late. Can't say I have seen him riding this new bike that was spotted though. do you have any photos of him on it?  

I try not to take photos of where I saw somome on it (new dh bike with vertices shock) so I’ll leave it at that.  The bikes you’ve seen here are clearly ready.  We’ll see how long transition takes to actually drop them. 

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veefour wrote:
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Looks like a good place to hide a airtag 

IanP161 wrote:

There is zero room to hide an airtag in the TMD

Maybe they should design a mass damper that doubles as a tracker.

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Looks like a good place to hide a airtag 

nope, surrounded by metal, bad idea

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6/12/2025 3:19pm

Whens the Fox USD drop? Remember the word being in June

June 24th

They are very good if you want the ultimate enduro/ebike smash down steep stuff fork. 

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6/12/2025 4:24pm

I got an email from Trek with details about a Top Fuel RSL that was seen at the WC last week...

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Is that a tech rumor? Found it pretty sick (Mighty Argo gondola in Idaho Springs).

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I got an email from Trek with details about a Top Fuel RSL that was seen at the WC last week...

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/top-fuel/top-fuel-rsl-gen-4/p/61644/

Looks like the same frame with XC suspension. Fork reduced to 120 instead of 130 but shock stroke remains the same. The geo difference makes sense due to a 10mm shorter fork. Maybe a throwback to the 2017 Top Fuel 9.9 RSL (miss that bike)

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6/12/2025 5:01pm

I got an email from Trek with details about a Top Fuel RSL that was seen at the WC last week...

sprungmass wrote:
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/top-fuel/top-fuel-rsl-gen-4/p/61644/Looks like the same frame with XC suspension. Fork reduced to 120 instead of 130 but shock stroke remains the same. The geo difference makes...

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/top-fuel/top-fuel-rsl-gen-4/p/61644/

Looks like the same frame with XC suspension. Fork reduced to 120 instead of 130 but shock stroke remains the same. The geo difference makes sense due to a 10mm shorter fork. Maybe a throwback to the 2017 Top Fuel 9.9 RSL (miss that bike)

Funny, i went looking for it on the site and missed that... Also, a difference rear end on the bike, using flex stays to drop some weight..

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Kusa wrote:
Is that a tech rumor? Found it pretty sick (Mighty Argo gondola in Idaho Springs).

Is that a tech rumor? Found it pretty sick (Mighty Argo gondola in Idaho Springs).

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that's cool! pressure builds with every position, HA

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Funny, i went looking for it on the site and missed that... Also, a difference rear end on the bike, using flex stays to drop some...

Funny, i went looking for it on the site and missed that... Also, a difference rear end on the bike, using flex stays to drop some weight..

I dont think there is a flex stay.

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6/12/2025 8:16pm
Kusa wrote:

I dont think there is a flex stay.

Looks like I was wrong..  But, the picture on PB showed a flex stay.. I guess we'll see that at some point..

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6/13/2025 3:04am Edited Date/Time 6/13/2025 3:05am
Kusa wrote:
Is that a tech rumor? Found it pretty sick (Mighty Argo gondola in Idaho Springs).

Is that a tech rumor? Found it pretty sick (Mighty Argo gondola in Idaho Springs).

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I'm pretty sure that this is the gondola in Sölden, Austria.

They have the Elements 007 advertise on them, which is located there.

Here is a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naulv6O8yfw

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6/13/2025 4:59am
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I'm pretty sure that this is the gondola in Sölden, Austria.They have the Elements 007 advertise on them, which is located there.Here is a video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naulv6O8yfw

I'm pretty sure that this is the gondola in Sölden, Austria.

They have the Elements 007 advertise on them, which is located there.

Here is a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naulv6O8yfw

You can see a "Sölden" blue add inside one of the gondolas at 0:07 on your video.

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I heard XT start of next month, Saint next year. 

Makes somewhat sense, if Saint was closer we would have seen it on pro bikes as well instead of XTR only 

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ex-ballz wrote:

So, are we possibly getting the goldilocks wireless drivetrain in the 11sp XTR Di2 RD with XX1 toothy linky bits?

ex-ballz wrote:

The article says that a 11sp linkglide version is coming soon, so I hope that isn't it.

Hey y'all, I got some details wrong in my article about the 11-speed Linkglide Di2 derailleur. Turns out it will only be for hardwired e-bike applications, not for battery-operated normal bike RD's. My bad. Here's my edited copy in the XTR launch article:

"A clarification about 12-speed vs. 11-speed XTR rear derailleurs [added to this article Thursday, June 12, 2025]:

The M9250 wireless derailleur is available for 12-speed Hyperglide+ drivetrains only, but can be used on normal bikes or e-bikes. However, there are 12 speed Hyperglide+ and Linkglide 11 speed options for e-bike only, but these M9260 derailleurs hard wire to the e-bike drive unit and can only be used with an e-bike, because they don’t have their own battery. There is compatibility between Shimano’s M9260 Di2 EBIKE rear derailleurs  and Bosch, Shimano, and TQ drive units, with Shimano expecting expanded compatibility from other drive unit manufacturers in the near future.

So, there are no wireless derailleurs available for 11-speed Linkglide, only hardwire derailleurs for e-bike usage. And bad news for those wanting to hack a Linkglide M9260 Di2 RD onto a normal bike, it is unfortunately not possible to connect the e-bike Linkglide derailleur to the Shimano BT-DN300 battery for road bike Di2 systems. That means Di2 Linkglide is not possible without a compatible e-bike, unless you're ready to go rogue and MacGuyver a wired battery solution and maybe burn your garage/house/apartment down. This is not recommended by Shimano or Vital, or by your landlord, roommates, or romantic partner."

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ex-ballz wrote:

So, are we possibly getting the goldilocks wireless drivetrain in the 11sp XTR Di2 RD with XX1 toothy linky bits?

Going back to this, this could be a neat 11sp solution for pedal bikes if it can hooked to a 12V(?) accu pack placed somewhere low on a frame?

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