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The SRAM metallic Maven ones are solid, and the black ones are good too. They're a big step up from the pads that comes in Codes, for whatever reason. I tried the Galfer purples and didn't find that they offered any real advantage, and wore down faster. You can get the SRAM metallic ones from Backcountry without bolt & spring for <$10, so they're a great value too.
Yeah, that’s kinda what I figured. I’m not sure if Galfer greens are worth it to have the ease of picking up a set of SRAM metallic pads pretty much anywhere.
Though they did seem to work well on the set of TRPs I also threw them on. Still trying to find a good pad for that brake that isn’t Shimano. I’m going to go on record and say that Shimano pads are crap.
I get 3 x the pad life from a Galfer purple than i do any other Resin or 2x semi's without giving up Bite or heat management.
Most of the brakes i seen in QT NZ had galfer purple in them, they are damn hard to buy here because of the demand.
Hardheaded Ram has shimano and Tektro brake pads. I've been using their sintered for Dominion A4 calipers and they've worked well. Have some of the other compounds but haven't tried them yet. For the price though, doesn't hurt the wallet to give em a shot.
I'd like a set, but am not willing to jump through the hoops to get them. Hopefully they become more readily available.
Yeah tried to score a set this morning but I forgot to fill my info in checkout before the drop and there they went lol.
use the autofill function of your browser
Yeah well when it comes to bikes, I know what im doin. Computers.. not so much lol. I got my last set of them easy since I had everything filled out. And probably got lucky. No time for mistakes tho, those pups are gone in seconds. Just wanted to snag a silver set for my other bike but I can wait
They sold in under a minute this time, I'm pretty quick with these things and probably had them paid for and ordered in less than 30s and there were 8 of 33 left when I got done.
It helps to preemptively log into PayPal also.
The last (also first) time I shop for a hyped up product (Stridsland frameset and handlebar) the e-shop was set up so every item in the basket was locked for a reasonable amount of time. But of course, the guy is not german, so he probably did not expect highly efficient customers 🙂. I think there is a idiom that says: Where there's a will, there's a way, or something like that, so... Yeah. It's part of the experience too I think, "fighting" for that rare part that you really, really want, but you dont really need.
i had mine after 10s, but i‘m an efficient german
just use wise app to transfer the money
you asked to correct you if wrong. i didn't correct you. the moment you hit "buy" the brakes in basket are yours. not when you finally paid. i paid mine like a full month later. you just have all your infos in before the drop and then react fast by adding the product to your basket.
ps: there is another chance to get one of 50 on the 10th of april, 8am berlin time. black ones this time
On Hope vs Intend, I've had both and they feel very different. Personally, I like the Hope lever mounting a lot better than Intend and they don't have issues with the lever blade being too short for wider grips. The power is similar but the lever feel is really different, the Hopes are closer to Trickstuff in the sense you don't get a ton of feedback at the lever when the pads engage, but the power comes on faster and the adjustments are more meaningful. The Intends have a really light, nice feeling lever - but it feels more like Dominions in the sense that as the pads engage, the pressure at the lever builds more. The Hopes can actually be a little disorienting and the first ride on them I did, I nearly ate a stem sandwich due to putting too much brake down expecting that lever pressure to build more than it did. They are wonderful feeling brakes though and I like them a lot. The only real con to me is the bleed process, which I'm just not a fan of at all.
I prefer the Intends but that's not a knock on the Hopes, I just prefer the overall maintenance/support from them as opposed to Hope, but both are top tier of those I tried.
On ordering, I did effectively what Pedal Bob suggested twice now successfully. You will save critical moments having multiple tabs opened and putting your checkout in another window. The site gets hammered about 1-2min before they go live, so having several windows open at once helps a lot when it comes to avoiding extra clicks/buttons. Having autofill ready to go and signed into PayPal helps, too.
Hope v4's are the best of all the brakes I've tried, which is pretty much all them now. They'd be a 10/10 if you didn't have to fluff around with the resi lid when bleeding. Worth a shot!
With such concise experience of all the best HD 4 piston brakes, your experience on the HEL Advocate would be much appreciated!
Based on your extensive writeup, it's between Radic and Trinity for me thus far.
Thanks
I haven't had a chance to try those, the Br4ve, or 612s. They all look sweet/unique in their own way but I haven't had a chance to feel or use any of them, kinda ran out of steam combined with neuropathy in my arms cutting down riding time significantly.
That's a huge bummer to read. My wife has a few patients she works with, and my dad's life partner has it bad as well. Best of luck with that.
Does anyone on here have experience with both the Tech 4 E4 and the Tech 4 V4?
I’m wondering if the E4s have a less of the kinda vague lever feel that the V4s have. My main gripe with my V4s is how the bite point feels vague/mushy.
i keep reading this and i keep finding my brakes the opposite, V4 braided paired with hope adapters and 2.3mm rotors, so i'm wondering, given that every other Hope brakes i try always have the normal hoses and feels soft/spongy, and mine and some customers that i installed, all with braided hoses, have a nice and defined/firm bite point, what hoses do you have?
While Hope's claim is that there's no difference, i really don't believe it, stiff hoses do make a difference, especially in feel.
I have the standard lines, but I’ve felt the braided lines on a friend’s bike and they feel basically the same to me.
I don't have the Hopes but I have some braided vs standard experience on my Maxima. I had to run a standard rear line on my old bike because the 6mm braided hose wouldn't clear the internal routing. I still kept the braided hose for my front brake. There was a minor bite point feeling difference between the two. The Goodridge hose bite point was more sharp and defined while the rear standard hose was a tiny little bit mushy in comparison. My new bike has external routing so I can finally run the braided hoses and both front and rear brakes now have an identical feel.
From what I had in the shop, not the same at all
Not sure on the trail as I’ve only ridden on braided hoses with Hopes but even riding with a guy that had the exact same set up other than hoses he said himself that mine felt way better and more defined
I’d try to bleed the caliper by pushing pistons out and opening the bleed nipple while pushing them back, perhaps there can be some air behind the pistons making them feel more vague, I’d try it, but I’m confident that the stiffer hoses do make a real difference especially on brakes like these pushing strong pressures
Does anyone maybe know the size of the oring on the Code lever bleed screw? They get torn up all the time...
Hope v4
Anyone try and fit a slightly longer bite point screw to firm things up? Brakes and perfectly bled and even slightly overfilled and still not as tight as radic/mavens
It’s just a different brake, it won’t get like the other 2 mentioned and it doesn’t matter, on the trail when the bite point is all in they become super touchy and honestly hard to modulate
I lengthened the bite point screw on the v4s. Tight as can be now
How'd you do that mate? Got a pic? Which rotors do you use with them?
I actually didn't put a longer screw....it's a damn custom size of course.....but there should absolutely be aftermarket options. What I did is epoxy 2 layers of precisely cut butyl road tire tubes to where the bite point contacts the reservoir. It effectively added 2-3mm? of screw length/bite. I am only running 2.3mm rotors so maybe this is what it's like running the 3.3 vented rotors?
The vented rotors are hilarious overpriced so not doing that.
Either way, if any manufacturers are reading this, please machine a longer screw for Hope V4 bite point. HUGE difference.
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