Noideamtber is correct. Also cues is cheap and existing technology, it's not exactly a new design, just a new product to streamline the SKU's. There is no...
Noideamtber is correct. Also cues is cheap and existing technology, it's not exactly a new design, just a new product to streamline the SKU's.
There is no way they're investing all the money to go backwards and offer an expensive wireless drivetrain, with a cassette that isn't even hyperglide+ standard,
linkglide xtr has already leaked in this thread, keep up and don't embarrass yourself any more
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I was looking at Fox every time.
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I...
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I was looking at Fox every time.
Air shocks aside, the temp of the shock doesn’t really tell you anything if you don’t know the tune and what it has just done. It’s a simple conservation of energy equation. The heat generated by the damper is the work it has done to absorb impacts.
Shimano Deore 11sp is 11-51T, dirt cheap, and pretty bomb proof. (although all Shimano derailleurs should be beefier imo) Run it on my park bike and...
Shimano Deore 11sp is 11-51T, dirt cheap, and pretty bomb proof. (although all Shimano derailleurs should be beefier imo) Run it on my park bike and enduro bike with no problems. I’m tempted by the mechanical Transmission but if Shimano does a wireless Deore 11sp derailleur/shifter I’m all over it.
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I...
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I was looking at Fox every time.
Air shocks aside, the temp of the shock doesn’t really tell you anything if you don’t know the tune and what it has just done. It’s...
Air shocks aside, the temp of the shock doesn’t really tell you anything if you don’t know the tune and what it has just done. It’s a simple conservation of energy equation. The heat generated by the damper is the work it has done to absorb impacts.
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had...
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t really seem to be.
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had...
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t...
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t really seem to be.
I remember a few years back some of the WC teams were putting temperature sensing stickers on their air cans. Haven't seen one since then so assumed that it's not something they care about anymore (or it wasn't useful)...
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I...
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I was looking at Fox every time.
Air shocks aside, the temp of the shock doesn’t really tell you anything if you don’t know the tune and what it has just done. It’s...
Air shocks aside, the temp of the shock doesn’t really tell you anything if you don’t know the tune and what it has just done. It’s a simple conservation of energy equation. The heat generated by the damper is the work it has done to absorb impacts.
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had...
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
The DVO Jade with the cooling fins was only one shock I was able to sense lacking of rebound after a long harsh descent.
So they moved the battery up higher to fit storage in the bike? Assuming the bottle cage is still the access door.
Also interesting they integrated Apple Find My into the hardware. First time I recall that tech being opened to a partner. I recovered my stolen 1-up rack because of an AirTag.
It’s really odd and with it being 180mm compatible, new link and yokekiller for a longer a shock ?
I'm expecting a levo LT to come out with a 230x65(ish) shock, after the x2 comes out, as it apparently shares an air spring with the float and float x genie. And no new kenevo either.
“SWAT internal downtube storage” So they moved the battery up higher to fit storage in the bike? Assuming the bottle cage is still the access door. Also interesting...
“SWAT internal downtube storage”
So they moved the battery up higher to fit storage in the bike? Assuming the bottle cage is still the access door.
Also interesting they integrated Apple Find My into the hardware. First time I recall that tech being opened to a partner. I recovered my stolen 1-up rack because of an AirTag.
they already did that in the vado sl 2. first apple find my integration was afaik van moof several years ago
“SWAT internal downtube storage” So they moved the battery up higher to fit storage in the bike? Assuming the bottle cage is still the access door. Also interesting...
“SWAT internal downtube storage”
So they moved the battery up higher to fit storage in the bike? Assuming the bottle cage is still the access door.
Also interesting they integrated Apple Find My into the hardware. First time I recall that tech being opened to a partner. I recovered my stolen 1-up rack because of an AirTag.
Moving the battery up is a pretty stupid thing to do, i hope they put it as low as possible and take advantage of it entering the frame from the side, to give access to the storage compartment.
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had...
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t...
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t really seem to be.
I'm curious about the Scott internal shocks, as they receive almost no airflow for cooling, I wonder how warm they will get. If any shock is going to overheat it'll be that one for sure.
I'm sure they tested it, I'm just curious what the results were
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had...
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t...
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t really seem to be.
I'm curious about the Scott internal shocks, as they receive almost no airflow for cooling, I wonder how warm they will get. If any shock is...
I'm curious about the Scott internal shocks, as they receive almost no airflow for cooling, I wonder how warm they will get. If any shock is going to overheat it'll be that one for sure.
I'm sure they tested it, I'm just curious what the results were
Some of the scotts had a cooling "duct" (ie a hole in the headtube) but it doesn't seem like they all do. I don't think I;ve ever seen a shock that was killed by excessive heating - the Polyurethane o-rings the Fox often use in the damper sealhead are only rated to 80 degrees C, so if they were exceeding that there would be major problems. I do sometimes see scorching on those, where it looks like the very surface of the shaft got really high but I doubt the entire shock gets overheated in that case either. Like @CascadeComponents said we would know if overheating was a problem, since anything over about 60 degrees becomes a burn hazard if you touch it for too long (this is a design factor in things like laptops) and that just doesn't happen, considering how close they are to your legs!
We all the know the new Firebird is slated to be released soon. From what I heard today, it looks very similar to the outgoing model with small geo adjustments here and there. It will also come with internal storage.
I knew the new ones were incoming so I was looking for a sale on the old models in my size when I ran across the...
I knew the new ones were incoming so I was looking for a sale on the old models in my size when I ran across the new model. New ones are pricey!
I’m sure there’s some huge improvement they’ll advertise that we can’t quantify. I just bought an outgoing pair and they are a perfect fit for the price. 🤘
Some of the scotts had a cooling "duct" (ie a hole in the headtube) but it doesn't seem like they all do. I don't think I;ve...
Some of the scotts had a cooling "duct" (ie a hole in the headtube) but it doesn't seem like they all do. I don't think I;ve ever seen a shock that was killed by excessive heating - the Polyurethane o-rings the Fox often use in the damper sealhead are only rated to 80 degrees C, so if they were exceeding that there would be major problems. I do sometimes see scorching on those, where it looks like the very surface of the shaft got really high but I doubt the entire shock gets overheated in that case either. Like @CascadeComponents said we would know if overheating was a problem, since anything over about 60 degrees becomes a burn hazard if you touch it for too long (this is a design factor in things like laptops) and that just doesn't happen, considering how close they are to your legs!
if you have or know anyone who has a new ransom, feel the shock bolts on the downtube after a run. they're hot.
Some of the scotts had a cooling "duct" (ie a hole in the headtube) but it doesn't seem like they all do. I don't think I;ve...
Some of the scotts had a cooling "duct" (ie a hole in the headtube) but it doesn't seem like they all do. I don't think I;ve ever seen a shock that was killed by excessive heating - the Polyurethane o-rings the Fox often use in the damper sealhead are only rated to 80 degrees C, so if they were exceeding that there would be major problems. I do sometimes see scorching on those, where it looks like the very surface of the shaft got really high but I doubt the entire shock gets overheated in that case either. Like @CascadeComponents said we would know if overheating was a problem, since anything over about 60 degrees becomes a burn hazard if you touch it for too long (this is a design factor in things like laptops) and that just doesn't happen, considering how close they are to your legs!
linkglide xtr has already leaked in this thread, keep up and don't embarrass yourself any more
This is the level of nerd stuff I'm here for.
That poor Float X. Also the fox stuff in general just looked a bit warmer than the rest. But I could not entirely tell if I was looking at Fox every time.
Air shocks aside, the temp of the shock doesn’t really tell you anything if you don’t know the tune and what it has just done. It’s a simple conservation of energy equation. The heat generated by the damper is the work it has done to absorb impacts.
Not true. It is electronic but wired for ebike use only
True. Do you know if design processes prioritize heat dissipation for suspension like how brakes do? I remember DVO used to advertise that their shocks had their little “cooling fins”. For all I know they did work. But Im a skeptic. But at the same time, Ive never seen another company promote that really.
Taken with a potato
I’m admittedly a Special Ed hater. Hard to hate on that… Well done Specialized.
Looks like the 115Nm rumored motor was close.
I am very surprised it’s still a 210x55
It doesn’t seem that any of them are trying to chase down heat sinks. Overheating shocks would have to be an issue first and it doesn’t really seem to be.
I remember a few years back some of the WC teams were putting temperature sensing stickers on their air cans. Haven't seen one since then so assumed that it's not something they care about anymore (or it wasn't useful)...
The DVO Jade with the cooling fins was only one shock I was able to sense lacking of rebound after a long harsh descent.
still going hard with the Yokes
Note the battery placement on the NEO Transfer seatpost. Saw a Pivot with one while riding in AZ recently.
“SWAT internal downtube storage”
So they moved the battery up higher to fit storage in the bike? Assuming the bottle cage is still the access door.
Also interesting they integrated Apple Find My into the hardware. First time I recall that tech being opened to a partner. I recovered my stolen 1-up rack because of an AirTag.
I'm expecting a levo LT to come out with a 230x65(ish) shock, after the x2 comes out, as it apparently shares an air spring with the float and float x genie. And no new kenevo either.
they already did that in the vado sl 2. first apple find my integration was afaik van moof several years ago
Moving the battery up is a pretty stupid thing to do, i hope they put it as low as possible and take advantage of it entering the frame from the side, to give access to the storage compartment.
New version of the low top Tallac got put up a bit early.
I'm curious about the Scott internal shocks, as they receive almost no airflow for cooling, I wonder how warm they will get. If any shock is going to overheat it'll be that one for sure.
I'm sure they tested it, I'm just curious what the results were
Some of the scotts had a cooling "duct" (ie a hole in the headtube) but it doesn't seem like they all do. I don't think I;ve ever seen a shock that was killed by excessive heating - the Polyurethane o-rings the Fox often use in the damper sealhead are only rated to 80 degrees C, so if they were exceeding that there would be major problems. I do sometimes see scorching on those, where it looks like the very surface of the shaft got really high but I doubt the entire shock gets overheated in that case either. Like @CascadeComponents said we would know if overheating was a problem, since anything over about 60 degrees becomes a burn hazard if you touch it for too long (this is a design factor in things like laptops) and that just doesn't happen, considering how close they are to your legs!
Good pricing on the outgoing models.
We all the know the new Firebird is slated to be released soon. From what I heard today, it looks very similar to the outgoing model with small geo adjustments here and there. It will also come with internal storage.
I knew the new ones were incoming so I was looking for a sale on the old models in my size when I ran across the new model. New ones are pricey!
I’m sure there’s some huge improvement they’ll advertise that we can’t quantify. I just bought an outgoing pair and they are a perfect fit for the price. 🤘
if you have or know anyone who has a new ransom, feel the shock bolts on the downtube after a run. they're hot.
Yeah I've heard of that, I would be super interested to know if it is the heat from the shock or friction from the bushings they use in that pivot