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Those shots are grabbed from beekay’s insta so the install should be good.
Not sure why he’s not been credited but here’s the post
Who doesnt love a 4 pack and cake, thats not even a criticism.....Are you ok man?
The "efficiency" loss of a gearbox on a slog of a climb, is prolly 10 fold compared to heavier wheels, tires, and 38, and all those are benefits when slapping light blue berms and rollers, where the gearbox doesnt seem to offer much benefit in those applications.
A while back I rode a Zerode at a demo day, it climbed just fine, rear suspension felt incredible on the way back down.
Some stats on efficiency here, which may or may not be accurate https://zerodebikes.com/pages/drag
All things considered I'm not sure it's a big issue.
What makes you think it's installed upside down? And why can't it be good to overlap the hose?
I'm guessing he's talking about having the hose so close to the rotor like that may run the risk of cooking the hose and the brake fluid in it? Also having it that close is probably increasing the chances of it contacting the rotor?
I can't help but think that looking at the hose's banjo connection, that it might be the caliper needs to be spun around 180deg?
*Edit*
Or the the connection turned to the side and the hose routed up the other side of the fork leg?
It's not a problem, the rotor will contact the hose only when you are inserting the wheel, and even the hardly.
Single piece calipers always have the plugs on the outside, there isn't enough space for them on the inside.
As for the hose, it won't really be a problem, it's not that close and there's airflow. Weird way to mount a banjo to the caliper, that is true (I prefer the way it is done on Codes), but still. And never route the hose in the outside of the fork.
Not a fan of it either, would look much better with a 45-90* banjo. Rest of the system looks pretty good though.
Please take it to the dedicated thread already. We've heard from enough people that have read on the internet that gearboxes have drag.
And no, DH tires alone are definitely a much bigger difference than between a crude bike and a gearbox bike when pedalling up.
I guess there is a bike in this image? 😁
Pretty good concrete camo. 😄
Loïc Testing Fox on Mandelieu DH Track
That's still Ohlins
With TiN coating...could it be coming to the MTB line? 🤩
That frame also looks a bit less luggy and a bit less tubular than it usually does too?
It does look a little different. I know the pixels are bad but it really does look like there's a bend in the down tube and possibly in the top tube by the seat tube interface that angles towards the pivot. Possibly the production model? Masterful pixelation? Or my eyes are still wonky from making cross-eyed faces for kids earlier today
Yeah it looks different on my phone with better image
I think its the beer goggles that the screenshot has. Quite possible but hell if my eyes could tell.
32" wheels w/ Aspens, 0-offset stem and weird-looking fork. Lots going on here...
(And yeah, I know 32" wheels aren't new but I think Maxxis getting involved is?)
Look at how big the flat pedals are, too. If you're a truly tall person, you'd be stoked on this thing. So much better than riding a circus bike.
Didn't RS do a TiN coating back in the 90s and early 2000s? I thought it wasn't durable enough and that's why it went away.
Everything on this bike seems a bit strange… So i am not surprised by the wheel size choice.
Unfortunately I know from an industry insider that teams are testing 32“ wheels and that the push comes from Scott (not surprised)
They did, but durability wasn't the issue. The surface was too smooth so had a tremendous amount of stiction.
It's also super hard to make TiN and other PVD coatings stick to aluminium properly without a lot of special preparation. They can be quite brittle so with the amount of flex a fork stanchion sees it would often flake off very easily. The coating itself doesn't even need to be that special for mtb products, its more important to get the clearances and surface finish dialled. Doing all of that and then applying an expensive coating is way overkill, especially mainstream products which is why chrome plating is being used on shocks like the Vorsprung Telum and most of Fox's products that aren't XC focussed. (The DHX2 used to be TiN as well btw)
Gonna posit a Flight Attendant Shapeshifter, pair it with Flight Attendant suspension and a power meter crankset, that'd be a helluva race bike.
Thoughts?
PVD can be a fickle pain in the butt even on steel and when it fails it peels and flakes off almost like paint.
Steel stanchions.
Heard it here first.
Wouldn't be too surprised if that was true, I had been suspicious all last season. His stanchions have a different sheen and the black seems a bit more dull than the typical deep black anodized stock stanchions. DLC?
Im sorry, Im a bit of a cultured ape. Would you mind explain what TiN is? Ive heard it before used in moto but thats about it…
Titanium Nitride, it's essentially a very hard ceramic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_nitride