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chriskief
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1/21/2025 12:35pm

Pivot showing off some new stuff...

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haen
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1/21/2025 12:59pm

Firebird getting the same high pivot DW suspension introduced on their Phoenix DH bike?

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easton
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1/21/2025 1:58pm
haen wrote:

Firebird getting the same high pivot DW suspension introduced on their Phoenix DH bike?

Maybe even sharing the same front triangle, or other parts? I noticed the seat tube angle is very steep on the Phoenix.

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rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

ex-ballz wrote:

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

Simcik wrote:
It was less so about specifically having electronic shifting. More about a direct mounting rear derailleur. Any brand can license the UDH hanger (maybe not other...

It was less so about specifically having electronic shifting. More about a direct mounting rear derailleur. Any brand can license the UDH hanger (maybe not other drivetrain manufacturers) so their frame can fit both standard drivetrains but also this direct mounting wonder drivetrain that Transmission is stated as being. 

Right, same play as when they released the XD driver. Hub co's could license the spline pattern freely but only Sram could make the cassette. TBF, not all that diff from what Shimano did with the HG pattern. Def gonna be interesting to see how Shimano gets around Sram's patent on a derailleur. 

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1/21/2025 3:36pm

More photos of Session

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rustle
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1/21/2025 9:32pm
dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

ex-ballz wrote:

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

Actually, SRAM t-type AXS is a heavier, more expensive UDH specific drivetrain when compared to regular AXS and mechanical. While I haven’t conducted a global bike brand part spec inventory, it appears to me, that most wireless shifting equipped bikes are coming with UDH specific t-type AXS. This is exactly the reason why SRAM got everyone they could on board with UDH. To launch this specific drivetrain….and that drive train is heavier and more expensive. I would argue that my point does compute. 

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I feel like this happened before with Trickstuff and a Chinese company 🧐 now it’s Hope’s turn 

https://www.instagram.com/dnisbrakes?igsh=MW9tMndjdnkwN3I1cA==
Or should I say Dnis brakes “better than Hope” as they claim on the comments 

Using the tech evo levers and the “v4 pro max” caliper 

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1/22/2025 3:26am

Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company i`ve seen. Anyone up for a "38mm!!! high rise" handlebar?  

Read all about it: 
https://castmtb.com/

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Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a while


expensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i guess? So nothing really new or that doesn’t exist in abundance already. The bar roll markings are nice but oneup also does that  


 


 

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1/22/2025 3:33am

Who is funding all of this?? 

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1/22/2025 4:21am
Anerds wrote:
Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company...

Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company i`ve seen. Anyone up for a "38mm!!! high rise" handlebar?  

Read all about it: 
https://castmtb.com/

Lemme guess... 9⁰ Backsweep and 5⁰ upsweep too?

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29 wrote:
Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a whileexpensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i...

Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a while


expensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i guess? So nothing really new or that doesn’t exist in abundance already. The bar roll markings are nice but oneup also does that  


 


 

Something just seems a bit fishy about the Cast brand... I'm not buying into the picture of these top riders joining forces to come out with just this. :D

 

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1/22/2025 4:49am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2025 4:50am

Ronan Dunne with a saint crank that has a direct mount, xtr looking chainring

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1/22/2025 5:58am

New Saint day should be an intentional holiday, whenever that comes around.

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1/22/2025 6:18am

non potato view of the new gambler

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New Saint day should be an intentional holiday, whenever that comes around.

Saint Saint's Day

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29 wrote:
Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a whileexpensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i...

Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a while


expensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i guess? So nothing really new or that doesn’t exist in abundance already. The bar roll markings are nice but oneup also does that  


 


 

shreda wrote:
Something just seems a bit fishy about the Cast brand... I'm not buying into the picture of these top riders joining forces to come out with...

Something just seems a bit fishy about the Cast brand... I'm not buying into the picture of these top riders joining forces to come out with just this. :D

 

They are just fucking with us. Someone made a bet that form >> substance, again.

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1/22/2025 8:06am
Evil96 wrote:
I feel like this happened before with Trickstuff and a Chinese company 🧐 now it’s Hope’s turn https://www.instagram.com/dnisbrakes?igsh=MW9tMndjdnkwN3I1cA==Or should I say Dnis brakes “better than...

I feel like this happened before with Trickstuff and a Chinese company 🧐 now it’s Hope’s turn 

https://www.instagram.com/dnisbrakes?igsh=MW9tMndjdnkwN3I1cA==
Or should I say Dnis brakes “better than Hope” as they claim on the comments 

Using the tech evo levers and the “v4 pro max” caliper 

Freudian slip typo in the bio 😂 "de sigh"... 😑

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iceman2058 wrote:
Freudian slip typo in the bio 😂 "de sigh"... 😑

Freudian slip typo in the bio 😂 "de sigh"... 😑

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I guess with DNIS brakes you skip steps 2 & 3 and go straight to neglect?

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1/22/2025 8:41am
ioni wrote:

Forgive me if it’s mentioned before and I missed it. Supposedly the new Scott Gambler was spotted (sorry it’s in German) https://www.mtb-news.de/news/scott-gambler-prototyp-2025/

Only time it was spotted when the frenchie they have was riding it at the IXS EDC in summer 2024...apparently MTB.News missed out on this one, it was in the Forum back then

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Evil96 wrote:
I feel like this happened before with Trickstuff and a Chinese company 🧐 now it’s Hope’s turn https://www.instagram.com/dnisbrakes?igsh=MW9tMndjdnkwN3I1cA==Or should I say Dnis brakes “better than...

I feel like this happened before with Trickstuff and a Chinese company 🧐 now it’s Hope’s turn 

https://www.instagram.com/dnisbrakes?igsh=MW9tMndjdnkwN3I1cA==
Or should I say Dnis brakes “better than Hope” as they claim on the comments 

Using the tech evo levers and the “v4 pro max” caliper 

iceman2058 wrote:
Freudian slip typo in the bio 😂 "de sigh"... 😑

Freudian slip typo in the bio 😂 "de sigh"... 😑

image 146

The 13 year old in me also wonders if they meant the "d" to be a "p"... 😆

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1/22/2025 9:52am
29 wrote:
Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a whileexpensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i...

Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a while


expensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i guess? So nothing really new or that doesn’t exist in abundance already. The bar roll markings are nice but oneup also does that  


 


 

shreda wrote:
Something just seems a bit fishy about the Cast brand... I'm not buying into the picture of these top riders joining forces to come out with...

Something just seems a bit fishy about the Cast brand... I'm not buying into the picture of these top riders joining forces to come out with just this. :D

 

If you look at the page and who they list on the team, it seems like it might be a Norco play at a component company.

Their list of riders includes: Greg Minnaar, Danny Hart, Gracey Hemstreet, Erice Van Leuven, Bodhi Kuhn, Lina Frener, Lucas Cruz, Kirk McDowall, and others.

That's the Norco DH team (I'm unsure if Kirk is racing this year) plus others.

Or it might be a Greg Minnaar thing and - since he's the figurehead of the Norco DH team - he's floating components to everyone on the team.

"Others" includes some Canadians, some trials riders and some enduro riders. Greg Callaghan is obviously a great rider/representative but Kriss Kyle, Danny Mac, and Fabio Widmer are all some of the biggest names in mountain bike social media.

Honestly, I'm kind of hyped on this brand "idea." It feels like some people decided to start a thing after a good ride and a couple beers. The same way my buddy started a bmx shirt company and another friend started a local cycling advocacy/race series/merch line.

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1/22/2025 10:44am
jonkranked wrote:

non potato view of the new gambler

I love the closeup shot of the worked frame hardware, gorilla tape, and a zip tie holding the derailleur cable in place 😭

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1/22/2025 11:30am
Anerds wrote:
Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company...

Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company i`ve seen. Anyone up for a "38mm!!! high rise" handlebar?  

Read all about it: 
https://castmtb.com/

MMMM I do love me some $100 stems and $80 alloy bars. With all the big names on it, they have to charge those prices. 

 

Of all the things in the bike world that need a purge, apparel and contact accessory brands should be up there. 

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1/22/2025 11:50am
Anerds wrote:
Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company...

Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company i`ve seen. Anyone up for a "38mm!!! high rise" handlebar?  

Read all about it: 
https://castmtb.com/

MMMM I do love me some $100 stems and $80 alloy bars. With all the big names on it, they have to charge those prices.  Of all...

MMMM I do love me some $100 stems and $80 alloy bars. With all the big names on it, they have to charge those prices. 

 

Of all the things in the bike world that need a purge, apparel and contact accessory brands should be up there. 

One piece bar and stem need to be purged. 

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1/22/2025 12:21pm

Cast must have spent some money to get Danny Mac Askill off Continental Tires. Automotive should have deep pockets...

 

Otherwise I can't feel the least bit excitement looking at the Cast components...

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1/22/2025 12:23pm
If you look at the page and who they list on the team, it seems like it might be a Norco play at a component company.Their...

If you look at the page and who they list on the team, it seems like it might be a Norco play at a component company.

Their list of riders includes: Greg Minnaar, Danny Hart, Gracey Hemstreet, Erice Van Leuven, Bodhi Kuhn, Lina Frener, Lucas Cruz, Kirk McDowall, and others.

That's the Norco DH team (I'm unsure if Kirk is racing this year) plus others.

Or it might be a Greg Minnaar thing and - since he's the figurehead of the Norco DH team - he's floating components to everyone on the team.

"Others" includes some Canadians, some trials riders and some enduro riders. Greg Callaghan is obviously a great rider/representative but Kriss Kyle, Danny Mac, and Fabio Widmer are all some of the biggest names in mountain bike social media.

Honestly, I'm kind of hyped on this brand "idea." It feels like some people decided to start a thing after a good ride and a couple beers. The same way my buddy started a bmx shirt company and another friend started a local cycling advocacy/race series/merch line.

Dunno to me the feel is less " It feels like some people decided to start a thing after a good ride and a couple beers."
And more "vulture capital cash grab by churning out more "same, same, but different label" " marketing.

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Dave Waugh wrote:
Dunno to me the feel is less " It feels like some people decided to start a thing after a good ride and a couple beers."And...

Dunno to me the feel is less " It feels like some people decided to start a thing after a good ride and a couple beers."
And more "vulture capital cash grab by churning out more "same, same, but different label" " marketing.

The About Us page gives off Prestige Worldwide vibes...

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1/22/2025 12:57pm
Cast must have spent some money to get Danny Mac Askill off Continental Tires. Automotive should have deep pockets... Otherwise I can't feel the least bit excitement...

Cast must have spent some money to get Danny Mac Askill off Continental Tires. Automotive should have deep pockets...

 

Otherwise I can't feel the least bit excitement looking at the Cast components...

My guess is he's invested, and somebody chumped him into thinking he's gonna make more off sales than a sponsor's salary.

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