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1/20/2025 9:41am
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

It's the brake hose guide that catches my eye. Anyone know the manufacturer? 

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1/20/2025 11:55am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2025 11:55am

Good watch. Charlie Murray bike check. Stumpjumper 15 with vivid lyrik and brake ace sensors. 
Vivid coil seems interesting on the bike. 
https://youtu.be/uXJtsLQuVSA?si=Z21NcDtbThz69r82

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1/20/2025 12:04pm
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

It's the brake hose guide that catches my eye. Anyone know the manufacturer? 

I think it’s just a generic moto hose guide.

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1/20/2025 6:43pm
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

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1/20/2025 6:51pm
Dodgems wrote:
From Tahnee's insta:  feels like the bike's coming soon...

From Tahnee's insta:

 

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feels like the bike's coming soon...

Not a gear box. You can see the derailleur in the shadow. Sad. I dont care what anyone says, the gearbox hype is like drivetrains moving to 1 by 10/11/12. Sure at first it was janky 1x10 One Up conversion kits. But now we have transmission. Which is cool. But what would be cool is better gearboxes. 

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1/20/2025 8:50pm
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

I think the big news is Downamics is the official UK agent for countershox. 

Oh and the brake setup is a carbon tube and a crf hose guide. I asked 😅

 

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1/21/2025 6:30am
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

boozed wrote:
Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

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1/21/2025 8:19am Edited Date/Time 1/21/2025 8:20am
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

boozed wrote:
Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

segamethod wrote:
Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

I got a Gripx damper for my 34 to swap out from my Grip2 since they were selling them for a firesale. Everything I've seen/read seem to imply that it's a pretty solid damper for a 120 fork. Why anyone would want it for anything longer than like 120-130 is beyond me. 

I'll report back when I get to ride.... months from now. 

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1/21/2025 8:33am
segamethod wrote:
Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

I can see that. Based on what I read, when updating my fork from a Grip 2, the Grip X was not even on my radar. Only a couple rides (in the bitter cold) and the Grip X2 is feeling nice.

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1/21/2025 9:49am
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

The looks will take some time to grow on you imo…and some might mistaken your forks for one from Manitou Wink

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1/21/2025 9:59am
Sven_Claas wrote:
Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a...

Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a hidden catch in there somewhere. 

dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

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1/21/2025 10:17am
Sven_Claas wrote:
Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a...

Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a hidden catch in there somewhere. 

dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

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1/21/2025 10:43am
dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

ballz wrote:

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

It was less so about specifically having electronic shifting. More about a direct mounting rear derailleur. Any brand can license the UDH hanger (maybe not other drivetrain manufacturers) so their frame can fit both standard drivetrains but also this direct mounting wonder drivetrain that Transmission is stated as being. 

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1/21/2025 11:41am

I feel like there's been a bunch of speculation already, but looks like WAO officially confirmed they're no longer making Arrival's. On the other site, the Kamloops Trails Fundraiser, WAO makes it clear that the Arrival they are giving away is the last one they ever made. 

Raffle Mania — Kamloops Bike Riders Association (KBRA)

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1/21/2025 12:35pm

Pivot showing off some new stuff...

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1/21/2025 12:59pm

Firebird getting the same high pivot DW suspension introduced on their Phoenix DH bike?

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1/21/2025 1:58pm
haen wrote:

Firebird getting the same high pivot DW suspension introduced on their Phoenix DH bike?

Maybe even sharing the same front triangle, or other parts? I noticed the seat tube angle is very steep on the Phoenix.

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1/21/2025 1:59pm
rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

ballz wrote:

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

Simcik wrote:
It was less so about specifically having electronic shifting. More about a direct mounting rear derailleur. Any brand can license the UDH hanger (maybe not other...

It was less so about specifically having electronic shifting. More about a direct mounting rear derailleur. Any brand can license the UDH hanger (maybe not other drivetrain manufacturers) so their frame can fit both standard drivetrains but also this direct mounting wonder drivetrain that Transmission is stated as being. 

Right, same play as when they released the XD driver. Hub co's could license the spline pattern freely but only Sram could make the cassette. TBF, not all that diff from what Shimano did with the HG pattern. Def gonna be interesting to see how Shimano gets around Sram's patent on a derailleur. 

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1/21/2025 3:36pm

More photos of Session

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1/21/2025 9:32pm
dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

ballz wrote:

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

Actually, SRAM t-type AXS is a heavier, more expensive UDH specific drivetrain when compared to regular AXS and mechanical. While I haven’t conducted a global bike brand part spec inventory, it appears to me, that most wireless shifting equipped bikes are coming with UDH specific t-type AXS. This is exactly the reason why SRAM got everyone they could on board with UDH. To launch this specific drivetrain….and that drive train is heavier and more expensive. I would argue that my point does compute. 

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1/22/2025 2:42am

I feel like this happened before with Trickstuff and a Chinese company 🧐 now it’s Hope’s turn 

https://www.instagram.com/dnisbrakes?igsh=MW9tMndjdnkwN3I1cA==
Or should I say Dnis brakes “better than Hope” as they claim on the comments 

Using the tech evo levers and the “v4 pro max” caliper 

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1/22/2025 3:26am

Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company i`ve seen. Anyone up for a "38mm!!! high rise" handlebar?  

Read all about it: 
https://castmtb.com/

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1/22/2025 3:29am

Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a while


expensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i guess? So nothing really new or that doesn’t exist in abundance already. The bar roll markings are nice but oneup also does that  


 


 

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1/22/2025 3:33am

Who is funding all of this?? 

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1/22/2025 4:21am
Anerds wrote:
Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company...

Cast went live now with their lineup of stems and handlebars. Strong list of riders on their rooster, but probably the least innovative new mtb company i`ve seen. Anyone up for a "38mm!!! high rise" handlebar?  

Read all about it: 
https://castmtb.com/

Lemme guess... 9⁰ Backsweep and 5⁰ upsweep too?

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1/22/2025 4:28am
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Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a whileexpensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i...

Looks like cast is now live after being hyped by some big name athletes for a while


expensive stems, alloy bars, grips and a trials tire i guess? So nothing really new or that doesn’t exist in abundance already. The bar roll markings are nice but oneup also does that  


 


 

Something just seems a bit fishy about the Cast brand... I'm not buying into the picture of these top riders joining forces to come out with just this. :D

 

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1/22/2025 4:49am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2025 4:50am

Ronan Dunne with a saint crank that has a direct mount, xtr looking chainring

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1/22/2025 5:58am

New Saint day should be an intentional holiday, whenever that comes around.

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1/22/2025 6:18am

non potato view of the new gambler

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1/22/2025 6:29am

New Saint day should be an intentional holiday, whenever that comes around.

Saint Saint's Day

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