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earleb
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12/3/2024 1:30pm

Nobody posted a screen shot of the Forbidden e-bike top tube teaser shot Owen posted? I didn't screen shot it to zoom in and see what drive unit dashboard was in the top tube. 

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sprungmass wrote:
Something something about car guys making bikes. Did we already forget this eye sore?

Something something about car guys making bikes. Did we already forget this eye sore?

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That thing has the same rocker link as my 2016 Ghost SLAMR POS build. 

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earleb wrote:
Nobody posted a screen shot of the Forbidden e-bike top tube teaser shot Owen posted? I didn't screen shot it to zoom in and see what...

Nobody posted a screen shot of the Forbidden e-bike top tube teaser shot Owen posted? I didn't screen shot it to zoom in and see what drive unit dashboard was in the top tube. 

Looked like a fazua logo on the screen 👀

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Primoz wrote:
Did anyone even mention pedal clearance in the posts you quoted? But yes, drop pedals could increase BB height which would also improve kinematics or at least...

Did anyone even mention pedal clearance in the posts you quoted? 

But yes, drop pedals could increase BB height which would also improve kinematics or at least bring 29ers closer to what we had on 26" bikes. 

Do you mean that drop pedals being more prevalent would allow bikes to be designed with a higher bb? And what kinematics are you meaning? Like the arc radius when cornering? How quickly the bike can lean over? 

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12/3/2024 3:15pm
Primoz wrote:
Did anyone even mention pedal clearance in the posts you quoted? But yes, drop pedals could increase BB height which would also improve kinematics or at least...

Did anyone even mention pedal clearance in the posts you quoted? 

But yes, drop pedals could increase BB height which would also improve kinematics or at least bring 29ers closer to what we had on 26" bikes. 

Eae903 wrote:
Do you mean that drop pedals being more prevalent would allow bikes to be designed with a higher bb? And what kinematics are you meaning? Like...

Do you mean that drop pedals being more prevalent would allow bikes to be designed with a higher bb? And what kinematics are you meaning? Like the arc radius when cornering? How quickly the bike can lean over? 

More rearward axle path for one

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12/3/2024 6:23pm
jma853 wrote:

More rearward axle path for one

More cowbell or something I dont know

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12/3/2024 7:57pm

If you made two near identical bikes with identical anti-squat, but one had a 26" and the other had a 29" rear wheel, the 26" version will have a more rearward axle path and lower pedal kickback due to the bb (and therefore the main pivot/virtual pivot) being higher up with respect to the axle. It will also be more neutral under braking.

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12/3/2024 8:28pm
amaranth wrote:
Some of you are taking this out of context - I don't mean a frame should be $300 from the local car shop. I'm saying whatever...

Some of you are taking this out of context - I don't mean a frame should be $300 from the local car shop. I'm saying whatever expertise or warranty allowance involved, it's hard to justify a $1500+ usd steel hardtail frame, especially when there's FS frames AND TI hardtail frames for that price. My carshop example was a bad one I'll admit that. Actually this becomes a question in itself and I'd be happy if y'all can educate me - what makes a steel hardtail worth so much? Just for context - there's a norco optic frame on sale at Jenson for sub $1200, I got my Turner scrub TI frame last BF for $1100, and the highly praised banshee paradox v3 frame is available for $700. What makes your "boutique" steel frames better than any of the above? It's not going to outlast a TI frame, it's not going to be as comfortable as a FS, and it's not as cheap as any of the above. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:
A $1500+ small batch steel hardtail frame,a $1200 Norco Optic frame,a $1100 Turner Scrub TI frame,and a $700 Banshee Paradox V3 frame.All of these frames have...

A $1500+ small batch steel hardtail frame,

a $1200 Norco Optic frame,

a $1100 Turner Scrub TI frame,

and a $700 Banshee Paradox V3 frame.

All of these frames have objectively different ride qualities, and many more subjective differences. You can decide to value them however you like. The market has decided to rank their value in this order. Also see: wine, collector's cars, fashion, cigars, concert tickets, art. What's the correct value for any of these things? If a frog had pockets, what would it carry in them?

I'll be honest, I was a little embarassed that @LePigPen and I had some silly comments, which turned into more silliness about steel vs, carbon, vs blah blah blah.......Until I read your jem about what would frongs carry in their pockets if they had em.......Absolute gold

Thank You so much.

friggin frogs with pockets!

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12/3/2024 8:43pm Edited Date/Time 12/3/2024 8:43pm
Primoz wrote:
Did anyone even mention pedal clearance in the posts you quoted? But yes, drop pedals could increase BB height which would also improve kinematics or at least...

Did anyone even mention pedal clearance in the posts you quoted? 

But yes, drop pedals could increase BB height which would also improve kinematics or at least bring 29ers closer to what we had on 26" bikes. 

Eae903 wrote:
Do you mean that drop pedals being more prevalent would allow bikes to be designed with a higher bb? And what kinematics are you meaning? Like...

Do you mean that drop pedals being more prevalent would allow bikes to be designed with a higher bb? And what kinematics are you meaning? Like the arc radius when cornering? How quickly the bike can lean over? 

Just to confirm what has been said, yes, rearward axle path. It would be kinda like having an idler within your chainring to raise the chain by ~10 mm. 

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12/3/2024 9:33pm
earleb wrote:
Nobody posted a screen shot of the Forbidden e-bike top tube teaser shot Owen posted? I didn't screen shot it to zoom in and see what...

Nobody posted a screen shot of the Forbidden e-bike top tube teaser shot Owen posted? I didn't screen shot it to zoom in and see what drive unit dashboard was in the top tube. 

shreda wrote:

Looked like a fazua logo on the screen 👀

Oh please not smother FAZUA 

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12/3/2024 11:20pm

Any rumours which ‘core’ brands are jumping on the new DJI engine? 

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12/4/2024 4:00am Edited Date/Time 12/4/2024 4:00am

Forbidden eDruid & eDreadnought with DJI motor, so two questions answered 😁

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MTBrent
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3ullit wrote:

Forbidden eDruid & eDreadnought with DJI motor, so two questions answered 😁

And supposedly cable-actuated Transmission coming at Sea Otter…

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12/4/2024 6:12am

How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.

The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high pivot bike.

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12/4/2024 6:43am

The e-forbiddens were expected. As for the xc/dc bike, am genuinely curious... Especially as they mention it doesn't use a high-pivot... Flex pivot like 90% of xc/dc bikes?

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12/4/2024 6:57am

seems like Forbidden going with DJI 

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12/4/2024 7:26am
Rick26 wrote:
How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high...

How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.

The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high pivot bike.

yeah definitely seems sketchy. Don't really trust this personally

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12/4/2024 9:42am
Rick26 wrote:
How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high...

How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.

The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high pivot bike.

yeah definitely seems sketchy. Don't really trust this personally

It's mentioned on Forbidden's website.

 

That e-Druid might very well be my next bike.

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12/4/2024 10:08am
Poleczechy wrote:

They better call the E-Dreadnaught the "Naught-E"

Oh, and then they can do a Backcountry edition and call it "Nauht-E By Nature". 

I'll see myself out.

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12/4/2024 10:19am
Rick26 wrote:
How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high...

How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.

The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high pivot bike.

yeah definitely seems sketchy. Don't really trust this personally

Suns_PSD wrote:

It's mentioned on Forbidden's website.

 

That e-Druid might very well be my next bike.

Where do you see that on the site? I'm not in the market for an e bike but that 120 "Reya" would be intriguing if the source is legit. It almost seems like someone at Forbidden leaked basic info to that site and they filled in the blanks... 

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12/4/2024 10:20am
image 105

 

From the red website, pretty solid that their new ebike is running a DJI

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12/4/2024 10:25am
3ullit wrote:

Forbidden eDruid & eDreadnought with DJI motor, so two questions answered 😁

Poleczechy wrote:

They better call the E-Dreadnaught the "Naught-E"

when will someone release the Crab-e?

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12/4/2024 1:15pm

New KS wireless post is official with up to 200mm drop. https://www.instagram.com/p/DDKo8YmtBv5/?igsh=eTlyemZ1amdybTJt

They have been out for ages I've got one on my crestline and it shits it's pants all the time. There's a common fault in the servo which makes it think the buttons been pressed so it won't stay up. 

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Nicolas M.
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12/4/2024 1:36pm

The New Bosch Performance Line CX Gen 5 motors are getting an update in about 2-3 months enabling the motor to deliver up to 105NM of torque. 

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12/4/2024 1:51pm

Anyone heard anything new on the Bike Yoke electronic dropper? Last I heard was "second half of '24" and we are running outta days...

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shreda
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12/4/2024 1:57pm
dolface wrote:

Anyone heard anything new on the Bike Yoke electronic dropper? Last I heard was "second half of '24" and we are running outta days...

Curious too! I really want one. 

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12/4/2024 3:12pm
dolface wrote:

Anyone heard anything new on the Bike Yoke electronic dropper? Last I heard was "second half of '24" and we are running outta days...

shreda wrote:

Curious too! I really want one. 

Me too. I really dislike fiddling with dropper remotes when it's maintenance time.

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