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MauiMax
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11/21/2024 1:15pm

I just watched the video and it looks like it calms it down quite a bit. How much does that effect ride? Looks like a similar effect maybe to the stfu

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11/21/2024 1:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 3:24pm
Mwood wrote:
Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/ Blow it up for him!  I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain...

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

What about those of us in the market for a chain dampener? Anything in the works?

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Mwood wrote:
Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/ Blow it up for him!  I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain...

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

How much weight does that add? Permanent magnets aren't exactly light 

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11/21/2024 2:23pm
Mwood wrote:
Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/ Blow it up for him!  I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain...

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

What about those of us in the market for a chain dampener? Anything in the works?

Don’t bother, it’d just get all rusty.

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11/21/2024 2:50pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 3:06pm
Mwood wrote:
Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/ Blow it up for him!  I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain...

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

Thanks for the post (and noting the broken link). I just took care of it. 

As to the questions...

1) Its pretty light. The low variant has a smaller magnet and weighs ~66 grams (total) whereas the medium and tall variant have larger magnets and weigh ~88 grams (total). These are untrimmed numbers. 

2) While pedaling, there is zero additional friction. Pedaling forces always pull the chain off the magnet (immediately, you will not notice it).  Also, while in the higher part of your cassette (say, climbing) the magnet is further from the chain and the force significantly weaker, which is by design.

Cheers and thx for the support!

 

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11/21/2024 3:07pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 3:24pm
Mwood wrote:
Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/ Blow it up for him!  I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain...

Our own @jeff.brines released his new product today: https://www.ralibike.com/
 

Blow it up for him! 

 

I'm interested in getting one for sure! FYI Jeff- link to known Chain Mag Sizing is 404. 

Thanks for the post (and noting the broken link). I just took care of it. As to the questions...1) Its pretty light. The low variant has a...

Thanks for the post (and noting the broken link). I just took care of it. 

As to the questions...

1) Its pretty light. The low variant has a smaller magnet and weighs ~66 grams (total) whereas the medium and tall variant have larger magnets and weigh ~88 grams (total). These are untrimmed numbers. 

2) While pedaling, there is zero additional friction. Pedaling forces always pull the chain off the magnet (immediately, you will not notice it).  Also, while in the higher part of your cassette (say, climbing) the magnet is further from the chain and the force significantly weaker, which is by design.

Cheers and thx for the support!

 

Where do you store the liquid for the dampening?

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11/21/2024 4:14pm

Side point here, we know its a bit of a pain to bust out the tape measure to figure out what size Chain Mag you need. Anyone who takes the time to do this for a bike we haven't catalogued yet and emails it to me, I'll fire you a 30% off code. Jeff AT ralibike.com 

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11/21/2024 6:48pm

Ok Jeff, here's two important questions for you:

Do Rise Mtb's rubberized fingers penetrate deep?

The magnet, how does it work?

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11/22/2024 1:08am

Magnet works by magnetic moment (which origins from elemental quantity called spin) of unpaired electrons in material being aligned which produces a magnetic field. Roughly speaking ofc. 

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11/22/2024 5:14am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 5:14am

Yup. And they were told to not be a copy cat again before release but apparently ignored it. 

Copying arguably the best brake on the market and even doing improvements AND then iterating on them with more improvements is one thing. Blindly copying the most well known CNC crank on the market that is not even the best design for. A crank is just pure laziness... 

I was in the give the benefit of doubt camp before this release, now there is no helping them. 

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Karabuka wrote:
Magnet works by magnetic moment (which origins from elemental quantity called spin) of unpaired electrons in material being aligned which produces a magnetic field. Roughly speaking...

Magnet works by magnetic moment (which origins from elemental quantity called spin) of unpaired electrons in material being aligned which produces a magnetic field. Roughly speaking ofc. 

Whoosh.

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11/22/2024 5:57am
Side point here, we know its a bit of a pain to bust out the tape measure to figure out what size Chain Mag you need...

Side point here, we know its a bit of a pain to bust out the tape measure to figure out what size Chain Mag you need. Anyone who takes the time to do this for a bike we haven't catalogued yet and emails it to me, I'll fire you a 30% off code. Jeff AT ralibike.com 

@jeff.brines  just a heads up, it appears I can edit your fitment spreadsheet. May want to restrict edit permissions!

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11/22/2024 6:24am
Packe777 wrote:

Lol, Lewis at it again. It seems they are inspired by 5DEV now. Looks like a 5DEV lookalike crank:

https://www.instagram.com/lewisbike_official/reel/DCq43PoTeLv/?hl=en

"there are only so many ways you design a crank" says the average vital user. People will buy the bullshit that they are just "inspired by the best" and vote with their money. I hope 5dev trolls them in typical 5dev fashion. The Germans are too nice.

What is next? CNC copy of Intend stems? Copy of Yoshimura pedals?🍿

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11/22/2024 6:38am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 6:42am
sprungmass wrote:
"there are only so many ways you design a crank" says the average vital user. People will buy the bullshit that they are just "inspired by...

"there are only so many ways you design a crank" says the average vital user. People will buy the bullshit that they are just "inspired by the best" and vote with their money. I hope 5dev trolls them in typical 5dev fashion. The Germans are too nice.

What is next? CNC copy of Intend stems? Copy of Yoshimura pedals?🍿

Dude, don't give them any new ideas.😁

P.S.

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@jeff.brines  just a heads up, it appears I can edit your fitment spreadsheet. May want to restrict edit permissions!

Thx! Locking it now. 

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11/22/2024 6:48am
Packe777 wrote:

Lol, Lewis at it again. It seems they are inspired by 5DEV now. Looks like a 5DEV lookalike crank:

https://www.instagram.com/lewisbike_official/reel/DCq43PoTeLv/?hl=en

sprungmass wrote:
"there are only so many ways you design a crank" says the average vital user. People will buy the bullshit that they are just "inspired by...

"there are only so many ways you design a crank" says the average vital user. People will buy the bullshit that they are just "inspired by the best" and vote with their money. I hope 5dev trolls them in typical 5dev fashion. The Germans are too nice.

What is next? CNC copy of Intend stems? Copy of Yoshimura pedals?🍿

I think 5Dev noticed.

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11/22/2024 6:50am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 6:50am
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HA! FWIW, when I was writing copy I did look up what word I should use and even asked GPT 4o, which is frankly better than me at writing. Here were the results. Obviously, I'm using definition "2". 

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11/22/2024 6:53am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 6:54am
HA! FWIW, when I was writing copy I did look up what word I should use and even asked GPT 4o, which is frankly better than...

HA! FWIW, when I was writing copy I did look up what word I should use and even asked GPT 4o, which is frankly better than me at writing. Here were the results. Obviously, I'm using definition "2". 

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😂

You’ll never dampen Vital’s enthusiasm for banter 

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11/22/2024 7:12am

Every vibration damping patent I've seen says dampening. 

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11/22/2024 7:28am
Primoz wrote:

Every vibration damping patent I've seen says dampening. 

I guess the ink is still wet on those.

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NoahColorado
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11/22/2024 8:56am

Would something intended to mitigate vibration in soiled Huggies be a damp diaper dampener or a dampened diaper damper?

Jokes aside, great idea @jeff.brines

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Would something intended to mitigate vibration in soiled Huggies be a damp diaper dampener or a dampened diaper damper?

Jokes aside, great idea @jeff.brines

HA! Thx dude. All credit goes to @Dave_Camp - he's the brains. I just... "work here". Wink  

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amaranth wrote:
Are there any reviews out for the Forbidden Supernought yet? It was released end of last year, yet I haven't seen any of the major outlets...

Are there any reviews out for the Forbidden Supernought yet? It was released end of last year, yet I haven't seen any of the major outlets do a review yet. 

Blister has a review, but they're the only major outlet to have done so. 

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/mountain-bike-reviews/bikes-frames/forbidden-supernought

I think they have a bad taste in their mouth from when everybody called the V1 dreadnought an over-forked trail bike.

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11/22/2024 10:53am
amaranth wrote:
Are there any reviews out for the Forbidden Supernought yet? It was released end of last year, yet I haven't seen any of the major outlets...

Are there any reviews out for the Forbidden Supernought yet? It was released end of last year, yet I haven't seen any of the major outlets do a review yet. 

overbiked wrote:
Blister has a review, but they're the only major outlet to have done so. https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/mountain-bike-reviews/bikes-frames/forbidden-supernoughtI think they have a bad taste in their mouth from...

Blister has a review, but they're the only major outlet to have done so. 

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/mountain-bike-reviews/bikes-frames/forbidden-supernought

I think they have a bad taste in their mouth from when everybody called the V1 dreadnought an over-forked trail bike.

That's not a review, it's a press release. There's no evidence that any actual riding took place, or that Blister even had a physical complete bike.

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Jotegr wrote:

That's not a review, it's a press release. There's no evidence that any actual riding took place, or that Blister even had a physical complete bike.

Suppose you're right lol, didn't bother reading very far, because I don't care for blister's bike stuff. Looks like no real reviews yet!

 

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I think 5Dev noticed.

I think 5Dev noticed.

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I was OK with the Lewis brakes because of them being pretty open about them reverse engineering the trickstuff brakes and them gradually moving away from that design, but those cranks are ridiculous. Of all the cranks to rip off, why some of the ugliest on the market haha? Just don't get their visual appeal. 

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Packe777 wrote:

Lol, Lewis at it again. It seems they are inspired by 5DEV now. Looks like a 5DEV lookalike crank:

https://www.instagram.com/lewisbike_official/reel/DCq43PoTeLv/?hl=en

Yeah that's pretty blatant copying imho. Oh and the brakes are ok at best - I bought a set to test personally and it felt unpolished. Had one handlerbar clamp screw not able to tighten the clamp properly right out of the box. The power was OK, but for the price (I think it was $500 and change when I bought it) you can get yourself just about anything...Dominion A4s, Trp DHR Evos, Mavens, Maguras... Compared them side by side with the real deal Trickstuffs, and the difference was apparent. Even just the lever pull the TS had a bit more "refinement" and there was less play in the lever. In short - the brakes aren't the worst, but for the price there are MUCH better options. The cranks - there has to be a million ways to mill whatever pattern into the crank yet they had to be "inspired" by 5dev. It's BS, and my business will go to brands that actually innovate and do R&D. 

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Yep. Pretty ugly but form follows function. 

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