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HexonJuan
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11/15/2024 6:48am
Onawalk wrote:
Lauf hub mechanism,Pics prolly courtesy of that chap that reviews patent application (name escapes me) but hes great!Pinched from the self proclaimed "biggest mtb media empire...

Lauf hub mechanism,

Pics prolly courtesy of that chap that reviews patent application (name escapes me) but hes great!

Pinched from the self proclaimed "biggest mtb media empire in the world"

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Interesting. Kind of an internal version of the Loops Drive hub design. Be interesting to see how it evolves.

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11/15/2024 8:11am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2024 8:20am
ballz wrote:
That Lauf freehub would go great together with these cranks.

That Lauf freehub would go great together with these cranks.


Gonna need a link to more info about those wild spoked chainrings. Never have I ever seen that in bike history.

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MTBrent
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11/15/2024 8:24am
ballz wrote:
That Lauf freehub would go great together with these cranks.

That Lauf freehub would go great together with these cranks.


TEAMROBOT wrote:

Gonna need a link to more info about those wild spoked chainrings. Never have I ever seen that in bike history.

I heard a tech rumor that I made up about an integrated spoke tensiometer as a power meter.  Didn't like your stats?  Couple twists of the spoke key and you're averaging 300 watts!  Strava warriors would've lost their minds.

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sprungmass
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11/15/2024 8:41am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2024 8:42am
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Gonna need a link to more info about those wild spoked chainrings. Never have I ever seen that in bike history.

https://www.bikecult.com/works/chainring.html
https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/tag/toei-japan/?fbclid=IwAR0f-0Q5Q…

"A hand-made gadget by a certain Japanese enthusiast." Stronglight 49 crankarms with spoked-wheel spider armature, made of thin spokes (1.2mm diameter), with 51- and 45-tooth Simplex chainrings, on a custom Toei bike
 

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11/15/2024 8:45am
Cheesus wrote:
Hey guys, I came across this shop that is selling new norco range vlt which is not on the official store, it has less travel 170/160...

Hey guys, I came across this shop that is selling new norco range vlt which is not on the official store, it has less travel 170/160 and vertical shock. In the specification there is electric shimano XT Di2 RD-M8250 12 speed, which i did not see anywhere except one page that is not accesible but on google says that this derailleur is 200 euros. 

That page is in Czech

I apologize if somebody posted about this already.norco vlt.png?VersionId=8pg DsG3dFPf3ovojR7lbsKhw7norco vlt3.png?VersionId=T2

Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with a long travel treatment akin to the current one going 170/160 in some models for 2025. 

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26aintdead
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11/15/2024 9:12am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2024 9:12am
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Gonna need a link to more info about those wild spoked chainrings. Never have I ever seen that in bike history.

sprungmass wrote:
https://www.bikecult.com/works/chainring.htmlhttps://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/tag/toei-japan/?fbclid=IwAR0f-0Q5Q8VBs2Vf1qLDfeRLJ4txF9eFwL7OudkJ25vA_s6K371BGTjNsv0"A hand-made gadget by a certain Japanese enthusiast." Stronglight 49 crankarms with spoked-wheel spider armature, made of thin spokes (1.2mm diameter), with 51- and...

https://www.bikecult.com/works/chainring.html
https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/tag/toei-japan/?fbclid=IwAR0f-0Q5Q…

"A hand-made gadget by a certain Japanese enthusiast." Stronglight 49 crankarms with spoked-wheel spider armature, made of thin spokes (1.2mm diameter), with 51- and 45-tooth Simplex chainrings, on a custom Toei bike
 

If you lower the tension of these spokes enough you get an OChain

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Whattheheel
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11/15/2024 9:18am

Isn’t that what we are already discussing?

Eae903
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11/15/2024 9:20am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2024 9:24am
TEAMROBOT wrote:

Gonna need a link to more info about those wild spoked chainrings. Never have I ever seen that in bike history.

sprungmass wrote:
https://www.bikecult.com/works/chainring.htmlhttps://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/tag/toei-japan/?fbclid=IwAR0f-0Q5Q8VBs2Vf1qLDfeRLJ4txF9eFwL7OudkJ25vA_s6K371BGTjNsv0"A hand-made gadget by a certain Japanese enthusiast." Stronglight 49 crankarms with spoked-wheel spider armature, made of thin spokes (1.2mm diameter), with 51- and...

https://www.bikecult.com/works/chainring.html
https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/tag/toei-japan/?fbclid=IwAR0f-0Q5Q…

"A hand-made gadget by a certain Japanese enthusiast." Stronglight 49 crankarms with spoked-wheel spider armature, made of thin spokes (1.2mm diameter), with 51- and 45-tooth Simplex chainrings, on a custom Toei bike
 

26aintdead wrote:

If you lower the tension of these spokes enough you get an OChain

We can go a step further, lace an Ochain onto a spoked crankset and use the new Lauf freehub system mixed with the e*thirteen sidekick system, over 30 degrees of supply, spongy chain engagement so that when you hit a bump your pedals actually kick forwards driving the wheel even faster! Effectively you have the same degree of engagement as a crank Brothers hub from 2011! 16 poe of goodness

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Whattheheel
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11/15/2024 9:24am

We can finally do burnouts!!!!

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lando
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11/15/2024 10:26am
Cheesus wrote:
Hey guys, I came across this shop that is selling new norco range vlt which is not on the official store, it has less travel 170/160...

Hey guys, I came across this shop that is selling new norco range vlt which is not on the official store, it has less travel 170/160 and vertical shock. In the specification there is electric shimano XT Di2 RD-M8250 12 speed, which i did not see anywhere except one page that is not accesible but on google says that this derailleur is 200 euros. 

That page is in Czech

I apologize if somebody posted about this already.norco vlt.png?VersionId=8pg DsG3dFPf3ovojR7lbsKhw7norco vlt3.png?VersionId=T2

Jotegr wrote:
Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with...

Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with a long travel treatment akin to the current one going 170/160 in some models for 2025. 

Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170 to 170/160. I love the big travel of the Range and would be bummed to miss out on it.

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11/17/2024 6:48am Edited Date/Time 11/17/2024 6:49am
Cheesus wrote:
Hey guys, I came across this shop that is selling new norco range vlt which is not on the official store, it has less travel 170/160...

Hey guys, I came across this shop that is selling new norco range vlt which is not on the official store, it has less travel 170/160 and vertical shock. In the specification there is electric shimano XT Di2 RD-M8250 12 speed, which i did not see anywhere except one page that is not accesible but on google says that this derailleur is 200 euros. 

That page is in Czech

I apologize if somebody posted about this already.norco vlt.png?VersionId=8pg DsG3dFPf3ovojR7lbsKhw7norco vlt3.png?VersionId=T2

Jotegr wrote:
Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with...

Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with a long travel treatment akin to the current one going 170/160 in some models for 2025. 

lando wrote:
Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170...

Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170 to 170/160. I love the big travel of the Range and would be bummed to miss out on it.

Not sure where I read, probably here LOL, it but it sounds like the Range is being phased out and they will go with two Sights, regular and long-travel and the Range will be replaced by the new DH bike.  Probably cheaper to keep the Sight covering two categories with the same frame with different shocks and bring the in-development DH bike for the >180mm travel folks.  

lando
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11/17/2024 7:26am
Jotegr wrote:
Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with...

Strange. The current (and just updated Range) is being carried forward in NA. If I had to guess that's actually the new VLT sight but with a long travel treatment akin to the current one going 170/160 in some models for 2025. 

lando wrote:
Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170...

Yeah, it looks just like the next gen Sight coming out next year. Would be strange for Norco to drop the Range in travel from 180/170 to 170/160. I love the big travel of the Range and would be bummed to miss out on it.

mrdimi wrote:
Not sure where I read, probably here LOL, it but it sounds like the Range is being phased out and they will go with two Sights...

Not sure where I read, probably here LOL, it but it sounds like the Range is being phased out and they will go with two Sights, regular and long-travel and the Range will be replaced by the new DH bike.  Probably cheaper to keep the Sight covering two categories with the same frame with different shocks and bring the in-development DH bike for the >180mm travel folks.  

That’s true for the regular Sight and Range. This guy is wondering about the VLT versions.

bigbrett
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11/17/2024 7:30am

In light of the recent hints that the updated TRPs are dropping in the (somewhat) near future, has anyone heard about the rumored updates to the Hayes Dominions?


I remember Atherton racing was running some proto calipers a while back. Curious to see what updates they would make, as they are already pretty dialed. Maybe clearance for 2.3mm rotors and better fit/finish/QC? Or something to allow them to better compensate for pad wear without affecting lever feel? Those were really my only complaints about the current version. 

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11/17/2024 8:59am
bigbrett wrote:
In light of the recent hints that the updated TRPs are dropping in the (somewhat) near future, has anyone heard about the rumored updates to the...

In light of the recent hints that the updated TRPs are dropping in the (somewhat) near future, has anyone heard about the rumored updates to the Hayes Dominions?


I remember Atherton racing was running some proto calipers a while back. Curious to see what updates they would make, as they are already pretty dialed. Maybe clearance for 2.3mm rotors and better fit/finish/QC? Or something to allow them to better compensate for pad wear without affecting lever feel? Those were really my only complaints about the current version. 

Why would 1 need clearance for 2.3mm rotors? The current 2mm design is pretty dialed in already and goes up to 220mm size. Only thing I can think they need to change - even more power, not because it needs it, but for bragging rights against Trickstuff and Intend! 😁

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Evil96
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11/17/2024 10:08am
bigbrett wrote:
In light of the recent hints that the updated TRPs are dropping in the (somewhat) near future, has anyone heard about the rumored updates to the...

In light of the recent hints that the updated TRPs are dropping in the (somewhat) near future, has anyone heard about the rumored updates to the Hayes Dominions?


I remember Atherton racing was running some proto calipers a while back. Curious to see what updates they would make, as they are already pretty dialed. Maybe clearance for 2.3mm rotors and better fit/finish/QC? Or something to allow them to better compensate for pad wear without affecting lever feel? Those were really my only complaints about the current version. 

finish is the thing they need the most on dominions, they look exactly like the cheap tektro brake

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11/18/2024 2:10am

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

Marcus J
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11/18/2024 2:16am
kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

They did drop the 2025 colors not THAT long ago so I wouldnt hold my breath on a new Nomad in the coming months

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11/18/2024 3:35am
kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

Bronson/Hightower share same front triangle. Nomad/Megatower share theirs too so will be a double update again.

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11/18/2024 4:25am

Matthew Fairbrother with either a Deviate Highlander II made into a downcountry bike or a new model from Deviate?

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kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

The current Mullet Nomad isn't even old yet. 

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11/18/2024 6:15am
kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

The current Mullet Nomad isn't even old yet. 

Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.

Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their usual life cycle.

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11/18/2024 6:25am
kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

The current Mullet Nomad isn't even old yet. 

Are you kidding? The frame has… holes for cables 🤢

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11/18/2024 6:54am
kcw72 wrote:

Any news on a new nomad ? Surely must be coming soon.with similar changes to Bronson ?

The current Mullet Nomad isn't even old yet. 

Rick26 wrote:
Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their...

Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.

Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their usual life cycle.

But the Nomad 5 didn't exist for very long either. The Nomad 6 had already been brought forward. 

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Eae903
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11/18/2024 8:34am

The current Mullet Nomad isn't even old yet. 

Rick26 wrote:
Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their...

Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.

Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their usual life cycle.

But the Nomad 5 didn't exist for very long either. The Nomad 6 had already been brought forward. 

But the Nomad 6 is the exact same frame as the Nomad 5 with a 29 inch fork and wheel on the front, so really that frame has been in circulation since 2021.

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11/18/2024 8:54am
Rick26 wrote:
Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their...

Nomad 6 was released in November 2022 as a 2023 model.

Nomad 7 & Megatower 3 should release at the end of 2025 if they follow their usual life cycle.

But the Nomad 5 didn't exist for very long either. The Nomad 6 had already been brought forward. 

Eae903 wrote:
But the Nomad 6 is the exact same frame as the Nomad 5 with a 29 inch fork and wheel on the front, so really that...

But the Nomad 6 is the exact same frame as the Nomad 5 with a 29 inch fork and wheel on the front, so really that frame has been in circulation since 2021.

No, it's not.  Geometry is different, has frame storage, shock sizing is different, kinematics are different, etc.

The N6 is great how it is. There's no need to update it.  The only thing I'd change on mine would be the sag peek window for people not running a Vivid or X2.  I certainly wouldn't give it the cushier suspension that the new Bronson has because the extra 20mm of travel gives you the same feeling.

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11/18/2024 10:36am
AndehM wrote:
No, it's not.  Geometry is different, has frame storage, shock sizing is different, kinematics are different, etc.The N6 is great how it is. There's no need...

No, it's not.  Geometry is different, has frame storage, shock sizing is different, kinematics are different, etc.

The N6 is great how it is. There's no need to update it.  The only thing I'd change on mine would be the sag peek window for people not running a Vivid or X2.  I certainly wouldn't give it the cushier suspension that the new Bronson has because the extra 20mm of travel gives you the same feeling.

You're right, I looked at the geo charts I was comparing again and I overlooked some portions. My mistake. 

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11/18/2024 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2024 12:35pm

IMG 7227Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

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11/18/2024 12:59pm
Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

IMG 7227Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

Have at it Boys! 
 
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Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

IMG 7227Looks like it’s almsot time.  What’s the password? 

Congratulations on releasing a Spectral, Cam! :D

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