I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport more accessible to newcomers -and hats off to Haibike for taking the chance. But GOD MY HEAD HURTS
This is obviously an abomination, the worst thing my eyes have beheld since the RedAlp. But you gotta hand it to Haibike, they know their customer and they know where their bread gets buttered. They're the Skechers of the bike world.
Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a bike more if it has more or less travel?
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?
Now as for that Haibike? I've seen worse. Looks better than the advent of FS-Ebikes from iZip and the like. I figure we're in the e-bike equivalent of the regular-bike y-frame era at the moment.
Is it wrong that I think this is more interesting than the Rail? 100% functional commute up to the office, reasonable amounts of fun on blue trails home. Now granted there's not a ton of people in my work-office situation...
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and a ziptied milk crate on the front or back rack?
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High...
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?
That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production tire that uses it is the Maxxis High Road.
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High...
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?
That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production...
That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production tire that uses it is the Maxxis High Road.
@sprungmass is correct. It's a lightweight puncture resistant material used underneath the tread - aka a "breaker" layer.
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and...
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and a ziptied milk crate on the front or back rack?
Pot holes are rough, man.
As the expected range on these things continues to creep up, they become more and more compelling.
Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a...
Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a bike more if it has more or less travel?
I don’t think the weight matters on how much suspension you have. The heavier it is, the bigger change you feel.
Say 400g removes 20% of those vibrations, 600g gets to 35% and 800g will cover 50%. You just notice the different more. Hope that helps, I have tried 400g and 800g on my fork.
Re: SC Vala. Thing to keep in mind is a Horst Link specifically calls out the placement of the pivot as forward of and lower than...
Re: SC Vala. Thing to keep in mind is a Horst Link specifically calls out the placement of the pivot as forward of and lower than the axle. SC's unit is forward and slightly above the axle, so it has a bit more in common with Rocky's old link circa 2013 (forgot the name, sorry) prior to the Horst patent expiring. That's all a long way of saying technically it isn't a true Horst link, but letting people blab about it as such makes it easier to discuss as a Horst is a known design. Bonus: it also stops the forums/comments from exploding with "IT'S A HORST LINK" if they did decide to call it something else. Bypass the BS and get straight to ride characteristics.
So... the new Altitude is using (Not actually) VPP and the new Vala is using Smooth link
So... the new Altitude is using (Not actually) VPP and the new Vala is using Smooth link
What a world, what a whirled, eh? Though I suppose you could make the argument that Rocky is using a design more similar to what Pole (originally), DMR, and to a degree Digit have done with the concentric BB pivot, at least on their non-electric units. The Powerplay jobber does use a proper Horst however.
those hybrid type e-mtb's make sense, would be good for adventuring on fire roads (ours are rough AF) and generally good for getting older people on bikes. I'm all for it.
Re: Shakeweight on a hardtail, I was thinking about this the other day. My Torrent would be incredible with a bit of sting taken out the back.
Personally I'd love to pay crab pricing rather than the pricing we have now. Which of these athletes would consider trading to me their bike if I offered their race bike's weight in King Crab?
For simplicities sake I'll be using the king crab's pricing from this site: https://fishmanmkt.com/pages/market-pricesWeAreOne: 39.53 lbs - $1976.10Intense: 41.8 lbs lbs - $2089.58Greg's Norco: 45.15...
Personally I'd love to pay crab pricing rather than the pricing we have now. Which of these athletes would consider trading to me their bike if I offered their race bike's weight in King Crab?
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and...
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and a ziptied milk crate on the front or back rack?
Pot holes are rough, man.
At least where I live, a lot of those 90's MTBs are still kicking around, still being used for what they do best, leisure rides and conmuting. Even if you want a brand new bike, the now named ATB (All Terrain Bike) is rissing in popularity in both sides of the atlantic ocean. Simple machines meant to go places... As much as I love tech and innovation, I believe the humble, plain and simple, good old bicycle, the one that get used daily, is the most important bike there is. SUV ebikes are ok too, I find very dificult to hate on bikes, but they look disposable to me, and that makes me sad
That's a proper moped.
I think you meant to say "New Crablink Sunn emtb line"
This is obviously an abomination, the worst thing my eyes have beheld since the RedAlp. But you gotta hand it to Haibike, they know their customer and they know where their bread gets buttered. They're the Skechers of the bike world.
the varying weights of crabs may shock you.
world cup DH bike weights.
god I love the f*ck out of the forum.
Unpopular opinion:
Who is going to compare different bike weights/costs to crab cost per pound? See which offers the better deal...
This guy with the artificial hip (while not 50 yet) also rips. Even if he now requires a step through frame apparently
That Norco plus 5 lbs is my eCRAB. Doesn't seem like a big penalty to get me up the hill fast and more runs down.
Taste like crab talk like people!
Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a bike more if it has more or less travel?
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?
Team Crab-bot Pinches your face.
I'll take that t-shirt in XL, please.
This is where we're at right now. Thanks guys.
Now as for that Haibike? I've seen worse. Looks better than the advent of FS-Ebikes from iZip and the like. I figure we're in the e-bike equivalent of the regular-bike y-frame era at the moment.
Is it wrong that I think this is more interesting than the Rail? 100% functional commute up to the office, reasonable amounts of fun on blue trails home. Now granted there's not a ton of people in my work-office situation...
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and a ziptied milk crate on the front or back rack?
Pot holes are rough, man.
That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production tire that uses it is the Maxxis High Road.
@sprungmass is correct. It's a lightweight puncture resistant material used underneath the tread - aka a "breaker" layer.
As the expected range on these things continues to creep up, they become more and more compelling.
I'm honestly shocked the Pivot was the lightest DH bike they weighed by nearly 3lbs.
Shame on Mondraker for denying the scale!
That Haibike looks like an AliExpress Unno.
I don’t think the weight matters on how much suspension you have. The heavier it is, the bigger change you feel.
Say 400g removes 20% of those vibrations, 600g gets to 35% and 800g will cover 50%. You just notice the different more. Hope that helps, I have tried 400g and 800g on my fork.
What a world, what a whirled, eh? Though I suppose you could make the argument that Rocky is using a design more similar to what Pole (originally), DMR, and to a degree Digit have done with the concentric BB pivot, at least on their non-electric units. The Powerplay jobber does use a proper Horst however.
those hybrid type e-mtb's make sense, would be good for adventuring on fire roads (ours are rough AF) and generally good for getting older people on bikes. I'm all for it.
Re: Shakeweight on a hardtail, I was thinking about this the other day. My Torrent would be incredible with a bit of sting taken out the back.
Does this mean we can start calling the Specialized Rockhopper the Rock Lobster?
For simplicities sake I'll be using the king crab's pricing from this site: https://fishmanmkt.com/pages/market-prices
WeAreOne: 39.53 lbs - $1976.10
Intense: 41.8 lbs lbs - $2089.58
Greg's Norco: 45.15 lbs - $2257.04
Gracie's Norco: 43.28 lbs - $2163.56
Transition: 39.37 lbs - $1968.10
Trek: 42.57 lbs - $2128.92
Giant: 39.29 lbs - $1964.10
Crestline - 39.88 lbs - $1993.60
Atherton - 40.32 lbs - $2015.59
Gamux - 44.62 lbs - $2230.55
Pivot - 36.38 lbs - $1818.63
Personally I'd love to pay crab pricing rather than the pricing we have now. Which of these athletes would consider trading to me their bike if I offered their race bike's weight in King Crab?
homepaged.
The only solution is to show up to MSA with a 45 pound bag of raw, dripping king crab meat and see who will take you up on the offer.
At least where I live, a lot of those 90's MTBs are still kicking around, still being used for what they do best, leisure rides and conmuting. Even if you want a brand new bike, the now named ATB (All Terrain Bike) is rissing in popularity in both sides of the atlantic ocean. Simple machines meant to go places... As much as I love tech and innovation, I believe the humble, plain and simple, good old bicycle, the one that get used daily, is the most important bike there is. SUV ebikes are ok too, I find very dificult to hate on bikes, but they look disposable to me, and that makes me sad
The Horseshoe Crab of the MTB industry, peak evolution.