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9/27/2024 5:57pm
Carraig042 wrote:
PNW Components has something coming out. 

PNW Components has something coming out. 

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Could be the wireless dropper that Kazimer mentioned is coming from an existing dropper manufacturer? One that has its battery/actuation at the bottom of the post?

Or... just a color/graphic update?

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9/27/2024 6:00pm

I feel like PNW is due a new post of some sort.

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9/27/2024 6:08pm
Carraig042 wrote:

I feel like PNW is due a new post of some sort.

Im hoping its an electronic dropper to stick it to fox and RS

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9/27/2024 7:19pm

Maybe they're doing lights?

I guess? The disco ball emoji is a good hint…

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9/27/2024 9:54pm Edited Date/Time 9/27/2024 9:55pm

I have noticed this graphic on the RS shock on an updated (color, spec wise) Smuggler. I have never seen it before, but it might be nothing. Seems like Transition updated a few bikes with new colors and spec, including Vivid shock on the Patrol.

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9/28/2024 12:19am

New pivot is looking almost done - no longer luggedIMG 4794 0

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9/28/2024 12:25am
Kusa wrote:
I have noticed this graphic on the RS shock on an updated (color, spec wise) Smuggler. I have never seen it before, but it might be...

I have noticed this graphic on the RS shock on an updated (color, spec wise) Smuggler. I have never seen it before, but it might be nothing. Seems like Transition updated a few bikes with new colors and spec, including Vivid shock on the Patrol.

image 59

The white band at the bottom of the piggy denotes D1 (new piston and rebound check plate), although the graphics seem to be specced/custom for this bike.

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9/28/2024 12:27am
ahleic09 wrote:
Blenki on what looks like the new frameworks for US Open Dual Slalom

Blenki on what looks like the new frameworks for US Open Dual Slalom IMG 4310

Openly shown on WynTV. Neko explains it.Screenshot 2024-09-28 092626

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9/28/2024 12:28am

remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well

 

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9/28/2024 12:32am
Lacanuck24 wrote:
Could be the wireless dropper that Kazimer mentioned is coming from an existing dropper manufacturer? One that has its battery/actuation at the bottom of the post?Or...

Could be the wireless dropper that Kazimer mentioned is coming from an existing dropper manufacturer? One that has its battery/actuation at the bottom of the post?

Or... just a color/graphic update?

bike yoke has a wireless dropper in the pipeline, pretty sure kaz meant this one.

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9/28/2024 12:34am
johnmcginn wrote:
New pivot is looking almost done - no longer lugged

New pivot is looking almost done - no longer luggedIMG 4794 0

get back a couple pages, full review is already in the enduro mtb app… launch should be in october.

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9/28/2024 12:36am
Carraig042 wrote:

I feel like PNW is due a new post of some sort.

MauiMax wrote:

Im hoping its an electronic dropper to stick it to fox and RS

It's completely silver. The stanchion and body are both polished silver.

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9/28/2024 2:53am
sharpy212 wrote:

Is this suspension platform going to be exclusive to the e-bikes… or will the new Megatower have a similar layout? 

Finkill wrote:
I feel like a big driving force behind a lot of the branded suspension designs was the FSR/Horst Link patent closing off the use of the...

I feel like a big driving force behind a lot of the branded suspension designs was the FSR/Horst Link patent closing off the use of the best layout to other brands; now that protection has gone a lot of brands have adopted that layout. It would not surprise me if more brands move towards the classic 4-bar layout as it's a versatile solution. Not sure if Santa Cruz will be rolling this out over the whole range just yet. 

That has already happened. Scott and Transition went 4 bar to name two (there are others I can't remember right now) while YT and Canyon expanded into the North American market after the patent ran out.

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9/28/2024 2:59am
Primoz wrote:
That has already happened. Scott and Transition went 4 bar to name two (there are others I can't remember right now) while YT and Canyon expanded...

That has already happened. Scott and Transition went 4 bar to name two (there are others I can't remember right now) while YT and Canyon expanded into the North American market after the patent ran out.

Yep, plus Marin and several others. Wonder if we will end up with this being the dominant design across the whole industry. 

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9/28/2024 3:20am
Evil96 wrote:
remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well 

remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well

 

IMG 1504

This brake was posted in that post as well.

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9/28/2024 3:33am
Evil96 wrote:
remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well 

remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well

 

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Jakub_G wrote:

This brake was posted in that post as well.

and the name of the company was spelled right. how can you fuck up the spelling of a 3 letter company name?

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9/28/2024 4:02am
johnmcginn wrote:
New pivot is looking almost done - no longer lugged

New pivot is looking almost done - no longer luggedIMG 4794 0

Lots of details pics from a leak a couple of pages back 

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9/28/2024 5:13am
Primoz wrote:
That has already happened. Scott and Transition went 4 bar to name two (there are others I can't remember right now) while YT and Canyon expanded...

That has already happened. Scott and Transition went 4 bar to name two (there are others I can't remember right now) while YT and Canyon expanded into the North American market after the patent ran out.

Finkill wrote:

Yep, plus Marin and several others. Wonder if we will end up with this being the dominant design across the whole industry. 

MXification (something @jeff.brines already talked about I think) of bikes as in "looks like a session" might just become the norm. 

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9/28/2024 7:22am
Evil96 wrote:
remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well 

remember that Boss came out with new suspension the other day? well it seems like they want to make brakes as well

 

IMG 1504
Jakub_G wrote:

This brake was posted in that post as well.

sethimus wrote:

and the name of the company was spelled right. how can you fuck up the spelling of a 3 letter company name?

BOS S(uspension)… no need to get rude…

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9/28/2024 12:11pm

The Vala would also be the first time Santa Cruz use a trunion shock ?

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9/28/2024 12:14pm
sethimus wrote:

and the name of the company was spelled right. how can you fuck up the spelling of a 3 letter company name?

not noticing the auto correct on the phone, i bet you're always right on everything aren't you. 

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9/28/2024 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/28/2024 1:12pm

IMG 5068 0Got to ride my countershox today for the first time:

There‘s definitely a noticeable change in how the front end rides and tracks, not comparable to anything I could  achieve with suspension setup or something else.
The front wheel is in contact with the ground a lot more times and it takes the harsh impact out of big compressions.

Only did a couple runs but keen to try it more over full days when arm pump becomes an issue.

I want to try to make a mount for the rear swingarm to try how it feels on the unsprung mass (like mondraker are running theirs but I can see them having a very different unit developed specifically for that).


The front end does feel a bit harder to lift just because of the added weight. (mostly because of the already really heavy dorado fork).

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9/28/2024 11:24pm
TwinTurbo wrote:

BOS S(uspension)… no need to get rude…

Best Of Suspension Suspension? 

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9/28/2024 11:51pm

That‘s what their homepage name says 😉

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9/29/2024 12:36am
sethimus wrote:

and the name of the company was spelled right. how can you fuck up the spelling of a 3 letter company name?

Evil96 wrote:

not noticing the auto correct on the phone, i bet you're always right on everything aren't you. 

i don‘t use auto correct so, yes

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9/29/2024 2:09am
1llumA wrote:

The Vala would also be the first time Santa Cruz use a trunion shock ?

the new hightower and bronson also use trunnion shocks now

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9/29/2024 3:55am
juliusk wrote:
Got to ride my countershox today for the first time:There‘s definitely a noticeable change in how the front end rides and tracks, not comparable to anything...

IMG 5068 0Got to ride my countershox today for the first time:

There‘s definitely a noticeable change in how the front end rides and tracks, not comparable to anything I could  achieve with suspension setup or something else.
The front wheel is in contact with the ground a lot more times and it takes the harsh impact out of big compressions.

Only did a couple runs but keen to try it more over full days when arm pump becomes an issue.

I want to try to make a mount for the rear swingarm to try how it feels on the unsprung mass (like mondraker are running theirs but I can see them having a very different unit developed specifically for that).


The front end does feel a bit harder to lift just because of the added weight. (mostly because of the already really heavy dorado fork).

Dorado is heavy???🤣  How weak are you? 

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9/29/2024 5:04am
juliusk wrote:
Got to ride my countershox today for the first time:There‘s definitely a noticeable change in how the front end rides and tracks, not comparable to anything...

IMG 5068 0Got to ride my countershox today for the first time:

There‘s definitely a noticeable change in how the front end rides and tracks, not comparable to anything I could  achieve with suspension setup or something else.
The front wheel is in contact with the ground a lot more times and it takes the harsh impact out of big compressions.

Only did a couple runs but keen to try it more over full days when arm pump becomes an issue.

I want to try to make a mount for the rear swingarm to try how it feels on the unsprung mass (like mondraker are running theirs but I can see them having a very different unit developed specifically for that).


The front end does feel a bit harder to lift just because of the added weight. (mostly because of the already really heavy dorado fork).

Fred_Pop wrote:

Dorado is heavy???🤣  How weak are you? 

Heavier* 300g more than fox + 500g Countershox + 1500g front tire makes for a burly front end.

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9/29/2024 5:20am
1llumA wrote:

The Vala would also be the first time Santa Cruz use a trunion shock ?

mxhntrggr wrote:

the new hightower and bronson also use trunnion shocks now

No? The mount is just sunken into the frame. 

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9/29/2024 5:31am
1llumA wrote:

The Vala would also be the first time Santa Cruz use a trunion shock ?

mxhntrggr wrote:

the new hightower and bronson also use trunnion shocks now

Primoz wrote:

No? The mount is just sunken into the frame. 

my mistake then, thought they used trunnion for the new bikes

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