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Some more info on the new Lapierre, adjustable between low and high pivot! https://enduro-mtb.com/en/lapierre-spicy-cf-2024-test/
was about to post the link, not sure what the typo is saying that the seatpost is 130 or 150 in size M, looks like the seat insertion is quite risicate anyway,
very interesting the fact that you can choose to stay on a full 29 or mullet and choose to go high pivot or not.
also curious if we're just accepting the shit acros makes ( plastic headsets with internal routing ) as it's not mentioned as a Flop anymore,
plus why go down that route ( pun intended ) if you make holes and have guided tubes to route the cables properly anyway.
Because through headset routing looks better or cleaner or something. I guess, I have my bike routed fully externally...
that’s because enduro mtb are some of the least critical reviews out there and industry bootlickers. „It looks so clean, sick!“
way too much focused on being hip and bros and pushing the newest shit on people compared to other media outlets.
At the same times they’re the one that tried plenty bikes with that shit routing and made a whole article saying how bad it is 😅 they must’ve forgotten or got a big paycheck by Acros
Rich Europeans who don't work on their own bikes will headset cable route, it's somebody else's problem. (I'm assuming not many north Americans but Lapierre bikes).
Kinda funny they got to market with a full carbon version before vampire bikes got even a limited release, their goes their lunch I guess.
Have we reached peak adjustability? Will people really swap from high to low pivot? How much does it change shock leverage?
Id love some data on how many people actually use flip chips and headset cups at all after their setup.
Swapping between the two configurations frequently is probably a hassle, but it does allow Lapierre to satisfy both groups of customers with one parts kit and I see that as a huge advantage. They've joined the high pivot bandwagon without exclusively committing to it and as a customer, if you don't like it you don't have to sell your frame.
When I go to Thredbo I put my flip chip in low and install a stiffer spring. If I remember...
Doesn't this violate Chris Canfield's patent, since it specifically moves the pivot location along the seat tube? Makes it unlikely to come to the USA
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210380195A1/
EWS bikes weigh 38#s properly outfitted.
I'm going to assume that a properly set up E-EWS bike weighs over 50#s, and also eats drivetrains/ wheels/ tires, something the average hobbyist might not be cool with.
I do agree that a low end, mid power, is kind of a weird place to be in because it ends up approaching full power weights.
Like diesel mpgs, people LOVE to exaggerate e-bike weights. Could the absolute lightest Wild in a size medium, 36mm fork, 1K gram tires, no pedals/ tools/ inserts & the small battery option weigh 46#s? Sure, but that's not reality.
BTW, my XL Relay in a high-end build, but dual coil suspension, 1350 gram rear tire, DH rear rim, pedals, 210mm dropper, tools with C02 on board weighs an honest 44.4#s and handles beautifully.
The last thing they told me was SuperSoft on enduro casing (which I've now ridden, at the YT Decoy SN launch), and Soft for the trail casing (which I published a picture of in our Sea Otter coverage, so at least one such tire exists). Sounded like no plans for a SuperSoft with trail casing though, correct.
To me, there's a big difference between 45 and 50 lbs in terms of how the bike feels on the trail, and in life in general. The 45 lbs bike I just spent two days on really did have me forgetting I was on an e-bike at times. Even hoisting the thing up onto a lift is "OK" (granted, I'm not a small dude and even though I'm old, the Viking genes are still going strong :-) ). A couple of months ago I spent two days riding a 50 lbs Turbo Levo, and although for general "shredding" that's a very fun and planted ride, I definitely noticed the extra heft. Popping the bike around on smaller features, moving it around in the air, all those little things feel a bit sluggish with that extra battery and motor weight.
As for the builds...yeah, a "real" enduro build will certainly add up to some weight. There's a 350 gram difference between a Fox 36 and a 38, just for starters. If you're gonna actually smash into stuff, you're gonna need real wheels and tires. Of course an "SL" e-bike with 140 mm of travel, a Fox 34 and flimsy trail casings, a 350 wh battery and a 50 nm motor will be significantly lighter, but let's not kid ourselves - it's not an enduro bike even if you can still point it down some rowdy stuff. To me, it's interesting that most of the Super Light e-bikes tend to be actual trail bikes, whereas the full-power ones are the proper enduro bikes. Because the manufacturers are either racing to make the "lightest one" or the one with the most power for climbing. Going forward, maybe we'll start to see bikes divided into 4 quadrants, defined on the one axis by type of riding, and the other by motor size/type.
Well...they keep telling me they're gonna send some, but they have yet to show up...
(but yeah, I've actually ridden the SuperSoft enduro tire now, and I really liked it...still hope to get some in for a long term review...)
Which 2.5 front Enduro tire would you choose today for dry rocky e-bike (Relay) usage? Include the Krytoptol Super-soft Enduro casing in that please.
Thanks.
PS. To me, bikes like the Relay, Heckler SL and the Decoy SN make PERFECT sense. I get my super rowdy Enduro rig, but just reduce the suffering and don't have to compromise on tires and other parts in an attempt to reduce rolling resistance so that I can get another run in. That's all I ever wanted.
Anyone know anything about the new Kona that’s being released tomorrow?
This seems like the perfect use case for a direct message
Or for: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/tire-chat-nerds-only
Quite often EnduroMTB are the only place that calls out bikes for being rubbish, Pinkbike just goes to bed with all the brands because its purely about bringing in as much $$$$ - look at bike of the year, they were counting their cash before posting the article and thats why it took so long lol.
VMTB is a bit mixed
I've ridden some awful bikes like the sentinel but only enduro calls out it out as hard to ride - Common to see HTA sets on them now, Steeps it up and extends the reach a little.
Sentinel is awful? Awful?
Awful.
That's why I brought it up.
Potentially it's not infringing because there are only 2 options not 3 like Vampire bikes? I'm certainly no patent lawyer and don't know how specific you have to be in these things.
With the Heckler SL and Decoy SN get your super rowdy enduro rig, but only for 3 to 4 top to bottom descents before you have to stop and charge. Maybe I'm in the minority (I would think not on this forum lol) but an eeb doesn't increase the mileage I can do, it just shortens the time it takes to do said mileage.
430wh is simply not large enough for the length of rides I want to do where a motor is assisting me. (never touch boost) The added weight for removable batteries has been grossly over exaggerated by the industry imo. My dad's XL Spectral ON with the 900wh removable battery weighs 51lbs. The Relay, the Trek Rail and even the full fat Decoy are also not pigs by any means.
45lb natural handling bike + spare battery in the truck = 860wh to play with on a real self shuttle day, not just 3 or 4 runs before you limp home in eco.
Wonder many people actually wait around for their bike to charge at the charging station at Kanuga? I was lucky to have 2 full fat eebs with me the only time I've ridden there.
I thought boost was the only mode!?!? The others are get home mode
Yep, good call, sorry for the derailment, I've posted my answer in the tire nerds thread...
the Rail not a pig? regardless of whatever you do to it it rides like a school bus and feels like it's 90kg let's be real, everyone that owns one and tried something else like the 160e or the Wild knows it feels much heavier than what it is, it needs a re do soon
Even 45 pounds for me is starting to push it. My Chinese carbon SL ebike, with a decently powerful bafang motor, 410wh battery, 170/155mm travel, is 42 pounds without pedals.
Selling a "budget" SL ebike for $6000 is tough when $6000 gets you a decent full powered ebike thats spec'ed much higher. Its like your friend that you took biking once and they loved it, and are trying to get you to find them a "decent bike" for $600 or less. If you can't budget $1000 minimum, its kinda not worth it for serious riding. All these "budget" SL ebikes are not budget priced for whatever reason, so that along with their 46+ pound weight makes it a tough sell.
The unsaid implication that other midweight ebikes are not burly enough for heavy duty riding is pretty funny. Are people cracking Fuel EXe's left and right on real trails?
Let's see what Trek's upcoming SlashE is like. Im willing to bet its not a full-fat ebike and probably weighs more than this in any event.
I was going to make a joke about the Decoy and Fuel EXe not burning your house down, but holy crap, Bafang actually got their mid weight stuff UL rated.
Has anyone heard anything about Chromag coming out with an aluminum dj? Allegedly one of our local slope guys has been on one, but it feels like a pretty big departure for Chromag to go that way. That said, maybe their riders have been asking for something more slope oriented than the Monk?
I stumbled upon a first ride review of the new Lapierre while queuing up a late-night ASMR vid.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6l04t-u_seE&pp=ygUUTG9hbSB3b2xmIGZpcnN0IH…
Machined rear end on matt mcduff norco
https://www.instagram.com/stories/matt_macduff/3409449139535033679?igsh=dGE0bmpmNG9uYzBq
New kona 153 & 134 are out.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/kona-launches-all-new-2025-process-…
Slightly underwhelming. Shame, but glad they're still around.