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Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

it's a Schwalbe, i like the chasing better, the ultrasoft rubber better ( plus it easily outlasts maxxgrip ) and they're cheaper

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5/16/2024 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 3:40pm

Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

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5/16/2024 2:21pm
Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

Evil96 wrote:

it's a Schwalbe, i like the chasing better, the ultrasoft rubber better ( plus it easily outlasts maxxgrip ) and they're cheaper

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Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

I think it's one frame that can do both. It's gotta be relatively long travel, as a test rider has said they are running a 38 as the more "trail" oriented setup. I'm going to guess it's 170mm rear travel or more.

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Plz point me in the direction of Schwalbes for half the price of Maxxis thanks in advance

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5/16/2024 3:04pm
Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

I tried out the Vee attack after reading the Vital review

Legit tire, only downside is that it seems to run a little thinner. Got it considerably cheaper than a Maxxis. 

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5/16/2024 8:31pm
Yoda wrote:
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched...

Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb. 

Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential. 

I can pretty much guarantee that if you’re a mushy brain like me (easily get concussions) any helmet designed for motor sports will be too hard to effectively prevent concussions. The higher impact speeds the helmet is designed to prevent from smashing your skull open, the more likely it is to cause a concussion in a minor incident. 

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5/16/2024 8:59pm
owl-x wrote:

Plz point me in the direction of Schwalbes for half the price of Maxxis thanks in advance

Bikeinn.com for a lot of stuff that is usually 2x in US.

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5/16/2024 11:40pm
owl-x wrote:

Plz point me in the direction of Schwalbes for half the price of Maxxis thanks in advance

Bike discount usually has pretty great deals for schwalbes at the end of the year...

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5/17/2024 7:01am

Moat likely a new DH helmet based on the SM10 design.

JokullThor wrote:

Dak said it's just the current moto helmet

Yoda wrote:
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched...

Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb. 

Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential. 

Maybe it’s a result of increased track speed on the World Cup circuit and the pros feeling like they need something different? It’s definitely interesting to see them all on it. 
Check out 6D for yourself if you’ve had previous concussion issues and safety is  your top priority for a helmet. 

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5/17/2024 8:26am
Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

He said somewhere that’s it’s not a full blown DH frame.  It’s a “super enduro” frame that can be built with single or dual crown forks.  It has bottle mounts and routing for a dropper. 

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5/17/2024 9:20am Edited Date/Time 5/17/2024 9:21am

What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do?

"Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super boost-blaster setting, or ultra boost-blaster setting. Now go fast!"

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if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

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5/17/2024 10:21am
sspomer wrote:
if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since...

if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

Where is Dave Camp at when you need him? Genuinely curious of this from the engineering standpoint, this is way above my paygrade. Interested and curious about this too Spomer

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@Simcik @Dave_Camp -  DC Special 2024 LOL

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5/17/2024 11:07am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do? "Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super...

What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do?

"Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super boost-blaster setting, or ultra boost-blaster setting. Now go fast!"

I used to look after the rental bikes at a bike park. People used to blow the forks and shocks up all the time so I de-coupled the compression adjusters. They'd come back complaining about the bike and I'd turn the knobs a few clicks for them. They's come back next run raving about how much better it was now.

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5/17/2024 11:20am
sspomer wrote:
if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since...

if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

@carlinojoevideo mentioned it in the post where he shared Amaury's Supreme, that's it.

Probably literally just bonded on, should work fine for a weekend or two. 

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5/17/2024 11:25am Edited Date/Time 5/17/2024 11:30am
sspomer wrote:
if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since...

if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

Primoz wrote:
@carlinojoevideo mentioned it in the post where he shared Amaury's Supreme, that's it. Probably literally just bonded on, should work fine for a weekend or two. 

@carlinojoevideo mentioned it in the post where he shared Amaury's Supreme, that's it.

Probably literally just bonded on, should work fine for a weekend or two. 

It's an interesting topic; Amaury looking for more compliance/grip(?) and Minaar looking for additional stiffness? (Do we know GM is looking for stiffness or could the carbon wrap be for damping?)

Edit: Although didn't SC also add carbon wrapping to Greg's V10 a while back, so increasing stiffness seems likely..

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SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

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Primoz wrote:
SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot...

SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

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5/17/2024 12:05pm
Yoda wrote:
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched...

Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb. 

Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential. 

I can pretty much guarantee that if you’re a mushy brain like me (easily get concussions) any helmet designed for motor sports will be too hard...

I can pretty much guarantee that if you’re a mushy brain like me (easily get concussions) any helmet designed for motor sports will be too hard to effectively prevent concussions. The higher impact speeds the helmet is designed to prevent from smashing your skull open, the more likely it is to cause a concussion in a minor incident. 

If I got two or more concussions within a year from anything, I wouldn't mountain bike anymore. They are far more dangerous than most realize

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Primoz wrote:
SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot...

SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

dolface wrote:

I know it was, the question is if it's still. By the looks of it it probably is. 

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Simcik wrote:
Where is Dave Camp at when you need him? Genuinely curious of this from the engineering standpoint, this is way above my paygrade. Interested and curious...

Where is Dave Camp at when you need him? Genuinely curious of this from the engineering standpoint, this is way above my paygrade. Interested and curious about this too Spomer

IDK- I've never done that, but I imagine it's a quick way to increase stiffness without tooling changes etc.

Like they could CNC 3 swingarms- leave one stock, wrap one a little and wrap one really thick- let greg do some blind testing.

 

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5/17/2024 1:01pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do? "Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super...

What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do?

"Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super boost-blaster setting, or ultra boost-blaster setting. Now go fast!"

I actually wouldn't put it past Loic to have these buttons on his bike literally just to play mind games and make the other racers nervous. Like, buttons not even hooked up to anything, nothing special under that shock cover, all just to f*ck with people.

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5/17/2024 1:09pm
Primoz wrote:
SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot...

SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

CNC parts are pretty stiff compared to cast parts or tubing of the same diameter.  The new Atherton S170 is crazyyyy thin CNC rear end and riders still say it’s more rigid than their carbon bike. 
 

I’m just at a loss for what’s better, soft rear end or stiff. Maybe just depends on the track, rider weight and style of riding. 

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5/17/2024 1:14pm
Primoz wrote:
SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot...

SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

You can have an open section that's still great in bending. I beams for example. Torsion is where having a closed out tube is very advantageous. Vertical and horizontal stiffness might be up there, but if the whole rear end is twisting then closing out the cross sections would be a good approach.

Carbon on aluminum can be a nightmare. Galvanic corrosion is extreme compared to just about anything else if they aren't isolated.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7E4yfFO4-f/?igsh=bGExa3JoZWFkNnp5   I can't figure out how to embed but this is a neat bike to come across my Instagram feeds. I'd be curious to see...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7E4yfFO4-f/?igsh=bGExa3JoZWFkNnp5

 

I can't figure out how to embed but this is a neat bike to come across my Instagram feeds. I'd be curious to see the full thing, and how it's different from DW6 Smile

Click the little play/youtube icon and paste Insta link:

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5/17/2024 2:50pm
dolface wrote:
Click the little play/youtube icon and paste Insta link:

Click the little play/youtube icon and paste Insta link:

image-20240517144830-1

 

Thanks! It was right there all along.

here we go with the video

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5/17/2024 3:07pm
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7E4yfFO4-f/?igsh=bGExa3JoZWFkNnp5   I can't figure out how to embed but this is a neat bike to come across my Instagram feeds. I'd be curious to see...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7E4yfFO4-f/?igsh=bGExa3JoZWFkNnp5

 

I can't figure out how to embed but this is a neat bike to come across my Instagram feeds. I'd be curious to see the full thing, and how it's different from DW6 Smile

It's still just two short links connecting the chainstay to the BB area. One of the links just happens to be mounted to a bearing that's bigger than the link. All DW6 bikes I've seen have the lowermost of the two short links oriented such that the pivot on the front triangle is below the one on the chainstay. The way this is set up, the front triangle pivot point is above the chainstay pivot. I'm not sure how the DW6 patent is written. That could be enough to differentiate them. That's the fun thing with patents... you can patent just about anything, but if you get too specific it doesn't prevent anyone from doing something very similar.

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