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Im not entirely sure what is meant by "traditional" design. Are you trying they have moved away from a HP/idler bike to a different suspension platform?
The HP/idler comes in different flavours
Have not ridden one at all (sadly - test bikes in Slovenia are hard to come by, even harder in XL).
Pretty sure we have the terrain where a HP bike would work quite nicely.
Development/release cycles lag behind the actual state on the market. As for a few notable release, which categories? I'll gladly eat my hat if everything goes high pivot in a few years (wouldn't be the first hat, it would quite likely be a tasty one), but considering how many DH bikes were tested with a high pivot and have reverted to a classic layout... I just don't see it. As with HP and shorter travel bikes, the main reservation I have with is the added efficiency losses and overall complexity which I suspect could drive people away.
One way I could see more proliferation in HP bikes would be the DW system, but sadly that one is patented and I doubt will see much use in the world until the patent runs out.
My god stop posting u less it’s a tech rumor
You should test ride a Druid V2. Efficiency losses are well compensated with the technical climbing ability. The bike is just less slowed down compared to a horst link while pedaling flat rooty/rocky paths. And I don't even feel the efficiency losses tbh since there is no need for a lower guide. Complexity is not that high either with a bombproof idler system.
Can we get back to the topic?
New Marin San Quentin, now with 29" wheels.
https://www.marinbikes.com/es_es/bikes/2024-san-quentin-29-3#specificat…
Modular lower shock mount. I wonder if it's only to adjust kinematics or if they're trying to use same front triangle for both optic and sight, w/ different shock mount and longer stroke shock? If combined with head angle adjustability the drawbacks for doing it this way lessened, but still not ideal. Seems big and clunky for just a kinematics adjuster. Or maybe it's for converting between mullet and 29?
The latter sounds the most likely
A little birdie told me the new Optic will be offered in full 29" or mixed wheel. After seeing Trek's design for switching between mixed wheel and 29" I could see Norco going in the same direction, although I can't confirm this.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxLDaYWOwDi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
V2 Privateer 161 drops tomorrow. It will not be high pivot.
I'm running my Altitude in pos 3 with a -1 angleset, which puts the reach at closer to ~473
…And the Sight and Optic will be right side up…
A typical Horst link 4 bar bike with a pivot closer to the bb without an idler would fairly traditional mainstream package for many years.
The high pivot idler bikes are not new tech but until recently saw very limited acceptance.
Seems the new Intense will be released as an M1 if this is true, although I'm not seeing it anywhere else yet.
Makes me wonder how Marin manages to keep their bikes in shops considering their bikes tend to compete with DTC brand pricing. I loved my 27.5 SQ, this looks very nice.
Please be mustard and ketchup (catsup?) please!!! look at how good the giant throw back looked!
I was told around January/February, they'll launch a dirt jump bike (I assume soon) before the downhill bike
Airless tires are getting closer!
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/14/23873153/nasa-bike-tire-shape-memory…
Rims seem like a great product for this.
I heard the same bird as it flew over my place here in the PNW
They don't have really high end builds with really high end parts, and use a lot of house-brand components, like cockpit stuff and even wheels. I think it's partially because of that.
I have a current range and I love it. But it has its drawbacks; generally characteristics that I’d purchase a short travel to avoid.
So like a shore then?
Does anybody here have a release date for the norco HP's that were mentioned here?
pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside)
https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel
So I went to the Specialized shop here in Canada and the girl really didn't know about a new Enduro at all... She said to go back in october when they'll have 2024 catalogue but for now, they don't even have an embargo for it, just nothing..!?
I am not sure about the Slash anymore so I'll wait to see if there is something special about that new Altitude, maybe the Sight too but I think I'm gonna try to find something more like a 6bar than HP with idler.
Atherton are not talking a lot about that new 170mm enduro, only about the smaller and DH ones.... probably be a lonnggg time before we can buy the ''cheaper'' option we saw, that seems to be alloy.
Is that Jack Moir using an OChain? That would be new for him.... have we all agreed yet if they are effective?
Just get an WAO Arrival 170. Best long travel enduro bike I've ridden period.
I don't want to go back to a slack seatutube! It seems like a perfect bike otherwise but that really bothers me... if I could at least try one but that's a lot of money to send to them knowing that I'll probably be over that rear wheel, like my first Knolly.
They don't have the frame only option anymore??? Pretty sure they used to have that... now they only have the CAD 11k SP1 bike on their site.
I like mine a lot and their abundance on the edr/dh scene makes me feel I’m not alone. Best way to describe the difference is I feel the bike/ground in my feet instead of in the pedals.