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5000ft vertical in trail mode on my Vala, I don’t want or need to zoom round with 100nm, quite happy with my dialled down 60, still able to put in plenty of effort. E-bikes have predictably become an arms race for power/torque.

I would prefer the bosch as it doesn't rattle and the weight would probably be very close with non removable batteries. But it has to be the whole bike. I don't know why people are so fixated on motors and their power. I'm more interested in how the bike handles on trails. Any motor will get me up there.

I hadn’t realised the new Bosch cx5 stuff was that much lighter, the older stuff was a fair bit heavier for equivalent battery capacity. The DJI bike must have saved a chunk in the frame too as the specs on the bike ware more than acceptable for the intended riding, you’d probably swap in some heavier casing tyres but otherwise it’s capable right off the bat.

At the severe risk of having someone quote this post in a reply with a link to a different tech-rumours banishment thread, I'll reply. It's not as exciting as you'd think. The bike is supposed to use a 230x60 shock to deliver 165mm of travel. When I originally built it, I used a 230x57.5 shock as an emergency shock (Last year I broke an enduro frame on a Monday, drove two hours each way to pick up a Claymore frame from a shop on Wednesday, and left for a four-day Whistler closing weekend trip on a Thursday after staying up...

New Sentinel tomorrow, not sure how much is changing, but in-frame storage will be there. There may also be another model, potentially the Scout?

Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see if the Ochain really works as advertised?

Probably for the "MX" line like their doublecrown, light motorbikes?

So stoked you like it! Wanted to try a more casual approach while still being as informative as possible. Thanks for the kind words.

Works nicely in the stand with XTR. Just had to tune the ‘indexing’

So when is the Slash going to be released? I got an email from Trek showing it off so I figured it would already be on the front page?