Might be missing something, but has anyone else noticed that the new SRAM calipers are 90% of the time only on the rear end with the...
Might be missing something, but has anyone else noticed that the new SRAM calipers are 90% of the time only on the rear end with the current caliper up front? Interesting how a rear specific caliper might be different... I know Troy runs a bigger rotor on the rear for more power, so maybe it's to do with a power increase?
On the proto SRAM caliper, I don't if it's already been noticed (can't recall), but there's actually 2 protos. Can't upload 2 pics on the same post though
We know that, yeah. The blocky, black one is the Maven, running mineral oil, then there's the red caliper that's probably running DOT oil (on a standard Code lever).
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto floating around is accurate.
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto...
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto floating around is accurate.
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto...
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto floating around is accurate.
Yea that bike has been baked in for quite a while. I believe they shot the promo video and photos for it last fall. Assuming issues with supply chain, waiting on aluminum version and old stock to clear out of shops have delayed it. The shops stock is probably the big one. Shops bought a bunch of not-that-old Slashes for 2023 season and with bike glut and Specialized's insane pricing this year they've had trouble moving them out. Trek can't launch the new frame until the shop inventories are much lower, so they're waiting.
For the 65mm stroke vivid, claimed weight is 670 grams. I just weighed my Cane Creek IL with a 450-550# coil on it, 63mm stroke. It...
For the 65mm stroke vivid, claimed weight is 670 grams. I just weighed my Cane Creek IL with a 450-550# coil on it, 63mm stroke. It is 720 grams. The EXT Storia is lighter for this size, but I don't remember off the top of my head the exact weight. Kinda kills the point of an air shock for me if I'm only saving 50 grams.
Are you seriously worried about 50g difference in shock weight on a 63mm stroke shock? I could cut my hair and lose 50g 😂
In my...
Are you seriously worried about 50g difference in shock weight on a 63mm stroke shock? I could cut my hair and lose 50g 😂
In my case where in the total system, the bike is maybe 20% of the weight, 50g especially on a performance suspension component is a trade off I’m willing to take.
The point is I'm not worried about a 50g difference, so I'll take coil every single time. It better be at least a 200 gram difference for me to consider air over a coil. My IL with a coil for my weight for my bike is barely heavier, and even tho it doesn't have a piggy back I'd say its still probably better than the vivid. The Vivid is $730, the IL can easily be found for half that, but The EXT Storia, also with a spring for my weight, is within spitting distance of the Vivid's weight and is only $999 that includes two coils, a custom tune, and excellent support (for north America). I don't see the benefit of this Vivid given the other options, since its so "heavy" for an air shock.
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto...
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto floating around is accurate.
Not really tech but apparently fox factory brought ride concepts
Wait, like Fox suspension? That seems like a really weird jump considering they do no apparel / soft goods. Fox Head makes more sense, but also kinda weird given that they just released their own shoes.
The point is I'm not worried about a 50g difference, so I'll take coil every single time. It better be at least a 200 gram difference...
The point is I'm not worried about a 50g difference, so I'll take coil every single time. It better be at least a 200 gram difference for me to consider air over a coil. My IL with a coil for my weight for my bike is barely heavier, and even tho it doesn't have a piggy back I'd say its still probably better than the vivid. The Vivid is $730, the IL can easily be found for half that, but The EXT Storia, also with a spring for my weight, is within spitting distance of the Vivid's weight and is only $999 that includes two coils, a custom tune, and excellent support (for north America). I don't see the benefit of this Vivid given the other options, since its so "heavy" for an air shock.
When talking about sram, not much (maybe none) of their stuff makes sense aftermarket at msrp. It makes sense to oem's because they get a much lower mark up on actual cost. Sram isn't alone in this of course, but their markups for end use customers vs bike companies seems a lot more mismatched than some companies. I mean the discount that ext or Cane Creek would give to an oem vs the regular price for us is probably not huge.
Also oem's and bike shops really want air cause it's one part number, (one size fits all, i.e. infinitely adjustable spring rate and one tune for a given frame). Instead of one tune and a bunch of different coils. Coil is a pain in the dick for them. That is why the vivid exists/makes sense. It might not make sense for you or me buying aftermaket, but it does make sense for trek et al.
Fox Factory owns Race Face...so adding shoes to the Race Face clothing kinda makes sense.
My buddy is a rep for Ride Concepts and he told me about a month ago that they were in talks to be acquired by a "big" company. He couldn't tell me which but that makes sense.
I thought the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looked a bit "busy" with the idler and rear LAL derailleur, and maybe it's the angle/lighting, but this Slash with both pulleys, big chain slap guard, long rear fender, chunky seat tube, shock mount etc. brings me late 90's vibes too. It probably rides great, but with the swoopy tube junctions and straighter/angular rear end, the lines don't flow that well IMO and it looks a bit "unfinished" in the industrial design department. In front of a white background with studio lighting, it would probably look more finished. My 0.02$.
I thought the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looked a bit "busy" with the idler and rear LAL derailleur, and maybe it's the angle/lighting, but this Slash with...
I thought the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looked a bit "busy" with the idler and rear LAL derailleur, and maybe it's the angle/lighting, but this Slash with both pulleys, big chain slap guard, long rear fender, chunky seat tube, shock mount etc. brings me late 90's vibes too. It probably rides great, but with the swoopy tube junctions and straighter/angular rear end, the lines don't flow that well IMO and it looks a bit "unfinished" in the industrial design department. In front of a white background with studio lighting, it would probably look more finished. My 0.02$.
IMO this two-tone paint is just not it. Specialized did a great job with the alloy Stumpy Evo, but to me this just makes it too busy, especially with the patterns. Hopefully other models have better combinations.
I thought the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looked a bit "busy" with the idler and rear LAL derailleur, and maybe it's the angle/lighting, but this Slash with...
I thought the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looked a bit "busy" with the idler and rear LAL derailleur, and maybe it's the angle/lighting, but this Slash with both pulleys, big chain slap guard, long rear fender, chunky seat tube, shock mount etc. brings me late 90's vibes too. It probably rides great, but with the swoopy tube junctions and straighter/angular rear end, the lines don't flow that well IMO and it looks a bit "unfinished" in the industrial design department. In front of a white background with studio lighting, it would probably look more finished. My 0.02$.
Honestly I think it looks great, visually seems very unassuming but realistically has more bite than bark… which is the opposite of most bikes these days
Okay so we got Transmission, we got the Vivid, now 200mm AXS Reverb pls SRAM? Anyone seen one recently?
and a price decrease because the AXS reverb is heavily overpriced. but yes, 200+ is needed
anther side note, why havnt more brands offerd cheaper and longer droppers? (200+) is it just that oneup have this locked down?
The point is I'm not worried about a 50g difference, so I'll take coil every single time. It better be at least a 200 gram difference...
The point is I'm not worried about a 50g difference, so I'll take coil every single time. It better be at least a 200 gram difference for me to consider air over a coil. My IL with a coil for my weight for my bike is barely heavier, and even tho it doesn't have a piggy back I'd say its still probably better than the vivid. The Vivid is $730, the IL can easily be found for half that, but The EXT Storia, also with a spring for my weight, is within spitting distance of the Vivid's weight and is only $999 that includes two coils, a custom tune, and excellent support (for north America). I don't see the benefit of this Vivid given the other options, since its so "heavy" for an air shock.
“I'd say its still probably better than the vivid.”
Heat management?
Isn't the trek running a smaller rotor in the rear as well as mismatched calipers?
Nope, that’s the prototype TRP rotor they are testing. It indeed looks a lot like the Galfer!
On the proto SRAM caliper, I don't if it's already been noticed (can't recall), but there's actually 2 protos. Can't upload 2 pics on the same post though
We know that, yeah. The blocky, black one is the Maven, running mineral oil, then there's the red caliper that's probably running DOT oil (on a standard Code lever).
New Slash coming soon!
Pretty modern geo and very versatile.
And price dropped a fair bit! New Vivid also stock
750d wheels...what?
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/moots-prototype-750d-gravel-bike/
I’ve noticed that NSMB posts a new article most days except when there is something on embargo. Something coming today.
nope
New slash coming with a higher spec alloy frame option as well as carbon. The idler is friggin huuggggg. Mullet only as well confirmed, that proto floating around is accurate.
Not quite right,
alloy in a good spec is true
Yea that bike has been baked in for quite a while. I believe they shot the promo video and photos for it last fall. Assuming issues with supply chain, waiting on aluminum version and old stock to clear out of shops have delayed it. The shops stock is probably the big one. Shops bought a bunch of not-that-old Slashes for 2023 season and with bike glut and Specialized's insane pricing this year they've had trouble moving them out. Trek can't launch the new frame until the shop inventories are much lower, so they're waiting.
The point is I'm not worried about a 50g difference, so I'll take coil every single time. It better be at least a 200 gram difference for me to consider air over a coil. My IL with a coil for my weight for my bike is barely heavier, and even tho it doesn't have a piggy back I'd say its still probably better than the vivid. The Vivid is $730, the IL can easily be found for half that, but The EXT Storia, also with a spring for my weight, is within spitting distance of the Vivid's weight and is only $999 that includes two coils, a custom tune, and excellent support (for north America). I don't see the benefit of this Vivid given the other options, since its so "heavy" for an air shock.
Big idler, less drag more pedalling efficiency.
Not really tech but apparently fox factory brought ride concepts
Wait, like Fox suspension? That seems like a really weird jump considering they do no apparel / soft goods. Fox Head makes more sense, but also kinda weird given that they just released their own shoes.
When talking about sram, not much (maybe none) of their stuff makes sense aftermarket at msrp. It makes sense to oem's because they get a much lower mark up on actual cost. Sram isn't alone in this of course, but their markups for end use customers vs bike companies seems a lot more mismatched than some companies. I mean the discount that ext or Cane Creek would give to an oem vs the regular price for us is probably not huge.
Also oem's and bike shops really want air cause it's one part number, (one size fits all, i.e. infinitely adjustable spring rate and one tune for a given frame). Instead of one tune and a bunch of different coils. Coil is a pain in the dick for them. That is why the vivid exists/makes sense. It might not make sense for you or me buying aftermaket, but it does make sense for trek et al.
Fox Factory owns Race Face...so adding shoes to the Race Face clothing kinda makes sense.
So when is the Slash going to be released? I got an email from Trek showing it off so I figured it would already be on the front page?
show us the email!
I may have posted a pic to that other site under the same username...
My buddy is a rep for Ride Concepts and he told me about a month ago that they were in talks to be acquired by a "big" company. He couldn't tell me which but that makes sense.
I thought the Nicolai Nucleon 16 looked a bit "busy" with the idler and rear LAL derailleur, and maybe it's the angle/lighting, but this Slash with both pulleys, big chain slap guard, long rear fender, chunky seat tube, shock mount etc. brings me late 90's vibes too. It probably rides great, but with the swoopy tube junctions and straighter/angular rear end, the lines don't flow that well IMO and it looks a bit "unfinished" in the industrial design department. In front of a white background with studio lighting, it would probably look more finished. My 0.02$.
Is that a modular shock mount? Consider me interested.
IMO this two-tone paint is just not it. Specialized did a great job with the alloy Stumpy Evo, but to me this just makes it too busy, especially with the patterns. Hopefully other models have better combinations.
Okay so we got Transmission, we got the Vivid, now 200mm AXS Reverb pls SRAM? Anyone seen one recently?
Honestly I think it looks great, visually seems very unassuming but realistically has more bite than bark… which is the opposite of most bikes these days
and a price decrease because the AXS reverb is heavily overpriced. but yes, 200+ is needed
anther side note, why havnt more brands offerd cheaper and longer droppers? (200+) is it just that oneup have this locked down?
“I'd say its still probably better than the vivid.”
yeah fursure brah.