New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just completely unpredictable to ride.
sounds like their new prototype is a welcome one, any idea what they’ve changed?
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just...
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just completely unpredictable to ride.
sounds like their new prototype is a welcome one, any idea what they’ve changed?
I remember in another podcast he did not like the GT Fury at all either. In this Shimano bike check video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLT-HK-YURs, he says about the '16 Fury :
"I think what makes this bike is umm... it's a pretty fast looking bike I think. I mean the colors in general look pretty good and umm, make it look fast." That's it, he said nothing else about it
So if he likes the new Mondraker, then it means it must be a good bike haha!
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63...
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63 deg seemed absurd a few years back, now there are 130mm trail bikes with this much rake.
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just...
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just completely unpredictable to ride.
sounds like their new prototype is a welcome one, any idea what they’ve changed?
He goes into a lot of detail about it in this "Making up the numbers" episode too (including about how much he hated their "center stem"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLdmq5YVofY
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/products/aluminum-handlebar
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/collections/stems-1/products/direct-mount-stem
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but I’m very curious about these bars as I’m terrified of carbon bars but desperately want all the “compliance” possible out of my cockpit. Do the One Up 35 bars have a noticeable uptick in comfort over any random 31.8 bar, or is it just marketing fodder?
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/products/aluminum-handlebar
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/collections/stems-1/products/direct-mount-stem
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but I’m very curious about these bars as I’m terrified of carbon bars but desperately want all the...
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but I’m very curious about these bars as I’m terrified of carbon bars but desperately want all the “compliance” possible out of my cockpit. Do the One Up 35 bars have a noticeable uptick in comfort over any random 31.8 bar, or is it just marketing fodder?
Good question. I have the carbon OneUp on my bigger bike, and I feel like it has a touch more damping than the 31.8 Deity bar on my "trail" bike. I still have a touch of trepidation about that carbon bar, so I'm a little curious about this one.
(old?) Camo Maven on regular stealth levers. Mineral oil ones have been shown, so it's odd he was openly talking about it.
We saw tons of...
(old?) Camo Maven on regular stealth levers. Mineral oil ones have been shown, so it's odd he was openly talking about it.
We saw tons of Vivids pre season, but no single one in EWS or DH since?
Yeah I was wondering about the Vivid. I wonder if all that preseason testing uncovered some design flaw that they're fixing. I think I've only seen a couple in pit photos since then - the big name guys that were running the Vivid in preseason are all on coil or SD air.
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/products/aluminum-handlebar
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/collections/stems-1/products/direct-mount-stem
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but I’m very curious about these bars as I’m terrified of carbon bars but desperately want all the...
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but I’m very curious about these bars as I’m terrified of carbon bars but desperately want all the “compliance” possible out of my cockpit. Do the One Up 35 bars have a noticeable uptick in comfort over any random 31.8 bar, or is it just marketing fodder?
Good question. I have the carbon OneUp on my bigger bike, and I feel like it has a touch more damping than the 31.8 Deity bar...
Good question. I have the carbon OneUp on my bigger bike, and I feel like it has a touch more damping than the 31.8 Deity bar on my "trail" bike. I still have a touch of trepidation about that carbon bar, so I'm a little curious about this one.
I've run the carbon OneUps and Chromag OSX bars back-to-back to test and the OneUps were noticeably more comfortable/compliant than the Chromags. (I've got wrist issues and am fairly sensitive to bar differences so ymmv).
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63...
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63 deg seemed absurd a few years back, now there are 130mm trail bikes with this much rake.
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63...
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63 deg seemed absurd a few years back, now there are 130mm trail bikes with this much rake.
Not a trail bike, but my Orbea Rallón R4 with a Superstar Slackerizer -2° headset sits at 61.5° when sagged, and there's no way I'm going back to the original 64.5° static HA!
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just...
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just completely unpredictable to ride.
sounds like their new prototype is a welcome one, any idea what they’ve changed?
Can't say for sure what Mondraker has changed on the new bike or how they've gone about changing it, but I bet that they lowered the anti-squat. It was seriously high on the old bike - around 233% in the 10T gear when paired with a 36T chainring. This ridiculous amount of AS probably played a large part in the unpredictable feeling that Brook talks about - 233% would likely mess with your suspension performance pretty bad. Mondraker probably also changed the carbon layup. In "Making Up The Numbers", Brook talked about how the carbon frame was unduly flexy under heavier riders like himself.
Brook also talks about how the bike was not progressive enough in the same episode of the podcast. Maybe that'll change too.
It's a real shame that the old Mondraker had those two big design flaws because it looks like a really solid frame in every other regard. Hope Brook gets better results with the new bike!
Can't say for sure what Mondraker has changed on the new bike or how they've gone about changing it, but I bet that they lowered the...
Can't say for sure what Mondraker has changed on the new bike or how they've gone about changing it, but I bet that they lowered the anti-squat. It was seriously high on the old bike - around 233% in the 10T gear when paired with a 36T chainring. This ridiculous amount of AS probably played a large part in the unpredictable feeling that Brook talks about - 233% would likely mess with your suspension performance pretty bad. Mondraker probably also changed the carbon layup. In "Making Up The Numbers", Brook talked about how the carbon frame was unduly flexy under heavier riders like himself.
Brook also talks about how the bike was not progressive enough in the same episode of the podcast. Maybe that'll change too.
It's a real shame that the old Mondraker had those two big design flaws because it looks like a really solid frame in every other regard. Hope Brook gets better results with the new bike!
I'd guess the rapidly decreasing anti-squat throughout the entire travel would play a role in that unpredictable feeling (it decreases force at the wheel and causes the pedaling behavior to vary drastically depending on the position in the travel), but that's been an inherent trait of Mondraker's Zero suspension design for its entire existence, so barring any drastic changes I'd expect that to carry over to some extent.
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63...
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63 deg seemed absurd a few years back, now there are 130mm trail bikes with this much rake.
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63...
atleast the rear center looks reasonably long'ish.
I would not be surprised if head angles are around 60 deg in a few years, remembering that 63 deg seemed absurd a few years back, now there are 130mm trail bikes with this much rake.
Not a trail bike, but my Orbea Rallón R4 with a Superstar Slackerizer -2° headset sits at 61.5° when sagged, and there's no way I'm going...
Not a trail bike, but my Orbea Rallón R4 with a Superstar Slackerizer -2° headset sits at 61.5° when sagged, and there's no way I'm going back to the original 64.5° static HA!
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just...
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just completely unpredictable to ride.
sounds like their new prototype is a welcome one, any idea what they’ve changed?
Can't say for sure what Mondraker has changed on the new bike or how they've gone about changing it, but I bet that they lowered the...
Can't say for sure what Mondraker has changed on the new bike or how they've gone about changing it, but I bet that they lowered the anti-squat. It was seriously high on the old bike - around 233% in the 10T gear when paired with a 36T chainring. This ridiculous amount of AS probably played a large part in the unpredictable feeling that Brook talks about - 233% would likely mess with your suspension performance pretty bad. Mondraker probably also changed the carbon layup. In "Making Up The Numbers", Brook talked about how the carbon frame was unduly flexy under heavier riders like himself.
Brook also talks about how the bike was not progressive enough in the same episode of the podcast. Maybe that'll change too.
It's a real shame that the old Mondraker had those two big design flaws because it looks like a really solid frame in every other regard. Hope Brook gets better results with the new bike!
Yeah I was wondering about the Vivid. I wonder if all that preseason testing uncovered some design flaw that they're fixing. I think I've only seen...
Yeah I was wondering about the Vivid. I wonder if all that preseason testing uncovered some design flaw that they're fixing. I think I've only seen a couple in pit photos since then - the big name guys that were running the Vivid in preseason are all on coil or SD air.
vali höll ran the vivid in leogang during practice, there‘s even a photo on pinkbike.
New downtime podcast with Brook Macdonald is an interesting listen; he speaks a lot about the old Mondraker bike and how bad it was. Apparently just completely unpredictable to ride.
sounds like their new prototype is a welcome one, any idea what they’ve changed?
pit bits vid from VDS. weights on the nukeproof or something else?
I remember in another podcast he did not like the GT Fury at all either. In this Shimano bike check video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLT-HK-YURs, he says about the '16 Fury :
"I think what makes this bike is umm... it's a pretty fast looking bike I think. I mean the colors in general look pretty good and umm, make it look fast." That's it, he said nothing else about it
So if he likes the new Mondraker, then it means it must be a good bike haha!
That Brook interview on the old GT is amazing. He's clearly so bummed to be giving that interview.
Maybe I missed it,
What 130 trail bike has a 63 degree HA?
He goes into a lot of detail about it in this "Making up the numbers" episode too (including about how much he hated their "center stem"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLdmq5YVofY
OneUp just dropped a aluminum bar and direct mount stem.
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/products/aluminum-handlebar
https://www.oneupcomponents.com/collections/stems-1/products/direct-mou…
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but I’m very curious about these bars as I’m terrified of carbon bars but desperately want all the “compliance” possible out of my cockpit. Do the One Up 35 bars have a noticeable uptick in comfort over any random 31.8 bar, or is it just marketing fodder?
Good question. I have the carbon OneUp on my bigger bike, and I feel like it has a touch more damping than the 31.8 Deity bar on my "trail" bike. I still have a touch of trepidation about that carbon bar, so I'm a little curious about this one.
(old?) Camo Maven on regular stealth levers. Mineral oil ones have been shown, so it's odd he was openly talking about it.
We saw tons of Vivids pre season, but no single one in EWS or DH since?
Yeah I was wondering about the Vivid. I wonder if all that preseason testing uncovered some design flaw that they're fixing. I think I've only seen a couple in pit photos since then - the big name guys that were running the Vivid in preseason are all on coil or SD air.
I've run the carbon OneUps and Chromag OSX bars back-to-back to test and the OneUps were noticeably more comfortable/compliant than the Chromags. (I've got wrist issues and am fairly sensitive to bar differences so ymmv).
My Marin Rift Zone. Sure, I fitted a Works Components headset to get that number, but trailbike travel w/ DH angles is super fun.
Not a trail bike, but my Orbea Rallón R4 with a Superstar Slackerizer -2° headset sits at 61.5° when sagged, and there's no way I'm going back to the original 64.5° static HA!
pit bits 1 gallery from vds - https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-1-2023-val-di-sole-world-cup-downhill
Can't say for sure what Mondraker has changed on the new bike or how they've gone about changing it, but I bet that they lowered the anti-squat. It was seriously high on the old bike - around 233% in the 10T gear when paired with a 36T chainring. This ridiculous amount of AS probably played a large part in the unpredictable feeling that Brook talks about - 233% would likely mess with your suspension performance pretty bad. Mondraker probably also changed the carbon layup. In "Making Up The Numbers", Brook talked about how the carbon frame was unduly flexy under heavier riders like himself.
Brook also talks about how the bike was not progressive enough in the same episode of the podcast. Maybe that'll change too.
It's a real shame that the old Mondraker had those two big design flaws because it looks like a really solid frame in every other regard. Hope Brook gets better results with the new bike!
I'd guess the rapidly decreasing anti-squat throughout the entire travel would play a role in that unpredictable feeling (it decreases force at the wheel and causes the pedaling behavior to vary drastically depending on the position in the travel), but that's been an inherent trait of Mondraker's Zero suspension design for its entire existence, so barring any drastic changes I'd expect that to carry over to some extent.
Right, So no 130 trail bike with a 63 HA
If my vest had sleeves, it would be my jacket....
So no 130 trail bike with a 63 HA stock
Here are the kinematics
vali höll ran the vivid in leogang during practice, there‘s even a photo on pinkbike.
Meta SX V5 are online. 170/165.
Ehm, where? Certainly not on their website.
https://www.commencal-store.de/new-meta-sx-v5-c102x4318283
Huh. Frame seems to be identical to the Meta V5, just with a different set of links and a 170mm fork.
that would be cool to buy some links to go back and forth for a few hundred $$$
And a shock
Bird does that with the aeris 9, a 180 mm link is just over 100 eur. Same shock though.
Rocky Mountain does too. with the Altitude and Instinct (link and shock).
"You are not authorized" when I click the page.