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BuzzLover
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Talked to Bernhard in Schladming. He said the bike is sick, rides better and faster then the old one. I bet he and jake will race them!

 

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6/5/2023 2:01am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2023 2:03am
 

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BuzzLover wrote:
Talked to Bernhard in Schladming. He said the bike is sick, rides better and faster then the old one. I bet he and jake will race...

Talked to Bernhard in Schladming. He said the bike is sick, rides better and faster then the old one. I bet he and jake will race them!

 

I mean he would say that, wouldn't he. Doesn't he also own the business that imports Pivot bikes into the UK? (Besides owning the Pivot Factory racing team I mean.)

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Primoz
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6/5/2023 2:15am

Exactly my thought. With marketing at least you get some percentage points of stiffness improvements to back up those claims. 

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kcy4130
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FullSend wrote:
I mean he would say that, wouldn't he. Doesn't he also own the business that imports Pivot bikes into the UK? (Besides owning the Pivot Factory...

I mean he would say that, wouldn't he. Doesn't he also own the business that imports Pivot bikes into the UK? (Besides owning the Pivot Factory racing team I mean.)

He would be motivated/obligated to say that it's better of course. But that doesn't mean it's untrue. It would take significant and widespread incompetence for a company to make a new bike that is worse than it's predecessor. It does happen but not often. Prototyping/developing a new bike is expensive and usually not undertaken unless everyone is fairly confident that the new version will be a marked improvement. 

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 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it couldn’t be shown, any idea of what it could be?IMG 6617 0.png?VersionId=2uOA66yb

 

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jamesma
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6/5/2023 6:24am
Any thoughts on short stem but longer reach bikes from Rulezman video? https://youtube.com/watch?v=oCi9LzaMm10&feature=share    

Any thoughts on short stem but longer reach bikes from Rulezman video?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oCi9LzaMm10&feature=share

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I think it's great that more stems with shorter offsets are coming to market, but I don't agree with Rulezman's view that everybody would be better off running a super short (i.e. 18mm) offset stem. I think there's a case to be made for stems longer than 18mm, depending on intended use and personal preference.

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6/5/2023 7:21am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2023 7:22am

I have a very short stem at home from a Mondraker Summum, it can be run at 20 mm offset. It's nothing new, albeit the one from Rulezman is probably more refined. Only reason why Mondraker stopped putting them on bikes (I guess) is that their bikes didn't have long reach back then (the stem I have is from a 2016 Summum, 422 reach in size M if I am not mistaken). Photo for refererenceAm Onoff Stoic Dh Stem Integrated 20-30Mm Nrm — onVeló cycling 

Primoz
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6/5/2023 9:04am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2023 9:28am

Is there an existing topic (how much reach is too much reach maybe?) covering this or should a new one be opened? Before this topic is offtopiced again.

One thing to take note of though... Is anybody taking the backsweep of the bars into account? And to throw some gravel in the mix, when the XC rider crashing is shown, the 'cantilever' stem should prevent that to a greater extent than the zero offset stem as pushing on both sides of the bar with an equal force (being stopped by an obstacle) will want to straighten the bars. So much for an 'unrecoverable' position...

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6/5/2023 10:16am
Evil96 wrote:
 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it...

IMG 6618.png?VersionId=tP5WoVbIR8oiNNQdKmv48AEafEEe

 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it couldn’t be shown, any idea of what it could be?IMG 6617 0.png?VersionId=2uOA66yb

 

My guess is a mid- to long-travel light e-MTB, judging by the sizeable fork travel and the remote visible in the first pic (looks like either a Fazua or TQ).

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EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork.

Designed for E-MX bikes though.

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6/5/2023 10:48am
Evil96 wrote:
 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it...

IMG 6618.png?VersionId=tP5WoVbIR8oiNNQdKmv48AEafEEe

 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it couldn’t be shown, any idea of what it could be?IMG 6617 0.png?VersionId=2uOA66yb

 

LH grip looks to have an ebike/motor lever

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Any thoughts on short stem but longer reach bikes from Rulezman video? https://youtube.com/watch?v=oCi9LzaMm10&feature=share    

Any thoughts on short stem but longer reach bikes from Rulezman video?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oCi9LzaMm10&feature=share

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It's the future if you are not already onward.

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BenediktB wrote:
EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork. Designed for E-MX bikes though.

EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork.

Designed for E-MX bikes though.

I think it'll fit a DH bike no problem.

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BenediktB wrote:
EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork. Designed for E-MX bikes though.

EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork.

Designed for E-MX bikes though.

Fred_Pop wrote:

I think it'll fit a DH bike no problem.

With it being designed for 20inch wheels I somewhat doubt that

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6/6/2023 6:57am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2023 6:58am
Evil96 wrote:
 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it...

IMG 6618.png?VersionId=tP5WoVbIR8oiNNQdKmv48AEafEEe

 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it couldn’t be shown, any idea of what it could be?IMG 6617 0.png?VersionId=2uOA66yb

 

Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under development 

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jamesma
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6/6/2023 7:54am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2023 7:55am
BenediktB wrote:
EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork. Designed for E-MX bikes though.

EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork.

Designed for E-MX bikes though.

Fred_Pop wrote:

I think it'll fit a DH bike no problem.

Jakub_G wrote:

With it being designed for 20inch wheels I somewhat doubt that

If it had 29" compatible crowns, it might be doable

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6/6/2023 8:26am
Evil96 wrote:
 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it...

IMG 6618.png?VersionId=tP5WoVbIR8oiNNQdKmv48AEafEEe

 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it couldn’t be shown, any idea of what it could be?IMG 6617 0.png?VersionId=2uOA66yb

 

Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under...

Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under development 

Looks like an ebike with a Shimano controler on the left of the bar and the usual shimano screen near the stem.

Interesting if there is a new version of the ebike with a Shimano system.

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Curly
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6/6/2023 8:38am
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Orange actually going to a linkage driven single pivot?! is the world ending?!    https://www.orangebikes.com/us/bikes/switch-7-se/2023

Orange actually going to a linkage driven single pivot?! is the world ending?! image-20230606083334-1

 

https://www.orangebikes.com/us/bikes/switch-7-se/2023

lewzz10 wrote:
They released the bike >1 year ago 

They released the bike >1 year ago Wink

LOL....well I guess we can see how well that advertising went :D

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6/6/2023 9:15am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2023 9:15am
Evil96 wrote:
 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it...

IMG 6618.png?VersionId=tP5WoVbIR8oiNNQdKmv48AEafEEe

 Saw this on the latest Jeff Kendal Weed video about the Epocalypse, he was at the Evil HQ and they said it’s a prototype so it couldn’t be shown, any idea of what it could be?IMG 6617 0.png?VersionId=2uOA66yb

 

Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under...

Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under development 

gbcoke wrote:
Looks like an ebike with a Shimano controler on the left of the bar and the usual shimano screen near the stem. Interesting if there is...

Looks like an ebike with a Shimano controler on the left of the bar and the usual shimano screen near the stem.

Interesting if there is a new version of the ebike with a Shimano system.

the current Epocalypse uses Shimano EP8 motor.

 

gbil
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6/6/2023 9:22am
Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under...

Oooh nice proto. My guess is a slightly less darker painted Wreckoning resulting in a brand new LS MK3 FTW Edition. Blood red version still under development 

gbcoke wrote:
Looks like an ebike with a Shimano controler on the left of the bar and the usual shimano screen near the stem. Interesting if there is...

Looks like an ebike with a Shimano controler on the left of the bar and the usual shimano screen near the stem.

Interesting if there is a new version of the ebike with a Shimano system.

w4s wrote:

the current Epocalypse uses Shimano EP8 motor.

 

I meant a new frame with the Shimano system again.

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6/6/2023 9:24am
BenediktB wrote:
EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork. Designed for E-MX bikes though.

EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork.

Designed for E-MX bikes though.

Fred_Pop wrote:

I think it'll fit a DH bike no problem.

Jakub_G wrote:

With it being designed for 20inch wheels I somewhat doubt that

the ~10lb weight won't help things either. 

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6/6/2023 10:02am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2023 10:09am

The new EXT dual crown feels like it took a lot of design cues from the Dorado?

Also, looks like the new Boxxer should be dropping soon based on this recent Rockshox instagram post:

 

 

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Fred_Pop wrote:

I think it'll fit a DH bike no problem.

Jakub_G wrote:

With it being designed for 20inch wheels I somewhat doubt that

jamesma wrote:

If it had 29" compatible crowns, it might be doable

 

If my vest had sleeves it would be my jacket.....

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