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sharpy212
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3/2/2023 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2023 10:37pm
sharpy212 wrote:
Any day now…..

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Any day now…..

BrambleLee wrote:
I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those...

I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those thin stays and no visible chainslap protection, this is probably a gravel rig, so maybe a Zipp sticker doesn't hint at anything new at all.

The screenshot is of a gravel bike using an eagle cassette and mech. that’s the new eagle axs groupset…. Not a prototype… that’s the finished thing. 
 

also noticed that have just become a member to the forum today and this is your first post on the forum. Welcome! What’s it like working for such a big component brand?  🥸

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3/2/2023 11:54pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 12:24am

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Gravel bikes use 12 speed Eagle?

dolface wrote:

Mine does! It's a pretty popular setup, also confusingly called a "mullet drivetrain": https://www.sram.com/en/life/stories/the-SRAM-AXS-mullet-build

It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the controls is SRAM AXS.

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3/3/2023 3:38am

Gravel bikes use 12 speed Eagle?

dolface wrote:

Mine does! It's a pretty popular setup, also confusingly called a "mullet drivetrain": https://www.sram.com/en/life/stories/the-SRAM-AXS-mullet-build

boozed wrote:
It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the...

It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the controls is SRAM AXS.

Check out ratio technology

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3/3/2023 4:48am
laurikuris wrote:

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I guess this new rear derailleur fits only with UDH system?

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3/3/2023 5:25am

On the pink site yesterday there was a pix of a strange looking Norco Sight. Whats going on with this? p4pb20947508

 Is this old news and I'm now just catching on? 

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3/3/2023 6:25am
Dave_Camp wrote:
10/10 Noah   I did do some math and stared at a dyno for a long time.  It's frustrating to read stuff stated as fact that...

10/10 Noah

 

I did do some math and stared at a dyno for a long time.  It's frustrating to read stuff stated as fact that is not correct. 

Especially when the stated goal and result of the product is to independently tune high speed and low speed with our affecting each other. I’ll trust the actual engineer, not the “forum scientists.”

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Primoz
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3/3/2023 6:26am

Old news, yes. 

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lloyd506
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3/3/2023 7:14am
On the pink site yesterday there was a pix of a strange looking Norco Sight. Whats going on with this?   Is this old news and I'm...

On the pink site yesterday there was a pix of a strange looking Norco Sight. Whats going on with this? p4pb20947508

 Is this old news and I'm now just catching on? 

Sight ebike

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BrambleLee
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3/3/2023 12:19pm
sharpy212 wrote:
The screenshot is of a gravel bike using an eagle cassette and mech. that’s the new eagle axs groupset…. Not a prototype… that’s the finished thing. ...

The screenshot is of a gravel bike using an eagle cassette and mech. that’s the new eagle axs groupset…. Not a prototype… that’s the finished thing. 
 

also noticed that have just become a member to the forum today and this is your first post on the forum. Welcome! What’s it like working for such a big component brand?  🥸

Thanks! Long time lurker, first time poster. It's nice to be here...

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3/3/2023 12:23pm

Pre Order available for the Trinity frame.

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3/3/2023 12:32pm
Pre Order available for the Trinity frame.  

Pre Order available for the Trinity frame.

EE2D997E-4661-43C2-986C-DE36A0A93FA6

 

Wow hefty price for frame only

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Noeserd
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3/3/2023 12:32pm

6 grand? damn

That frame better last as much as a dirtbike

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3/3/2023 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 11:42pm
dolface wrote:

Mine does! It's a pretty popular setup, also confusingly called a "mullet drivetrain": https://www.sram.com/en/life/stories/the-SRAM-AXS-mullet-build

boozed wrote:
It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the...

It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the controls is SRAM AXS.

nicompr wrote:

Check out ratio technology

Thanks, I wasn't aware of Ratio.

However I need something to make Shimano integrated shifters work with an existing Shimano 1x12 MTB groupset.  So far I haven't found anything that isn't a hack job.  I don't think there's one of those little cable pull ratio adjusters for such a setup yet.

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Primoz
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3/3/2023 1:31pm

Is it just me getting jaded or is 6 grand for what is more or less a one-off frame and a bit out there feature wise not THAT outlandish? Haven't we seen less for more?

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3/3/2023 1:42pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 1:43pm
Primoz wrote:
Is it just me getting jaded or is 6 grand for what is more or less a one-off frame and a bit out there feature wise...

Is it just me getting jaded or is 6 grand for what is more or less a one-off frame and a bit out there feature wise not THAT outlandish? Haven't we seen less for more?

It's very much outlandish, hahaha. But it is Australian made and they've put tons of hours into developing it, so I understand the costs involved. 

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nskerb
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3/3/2023 1:51pm

It's just a dressed up single pivot that can accept a gearbox; which no reasonable person will ever want. So yeah its pretty outlandish. Give me a complete meta that does the same job.  

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3/3/2023 2:01pm

a) It's a DH bike, not an enduro.
b) It's a high pivot horst link.

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3/3/2023 2:35pm
Primoz wrote:

a) It's a DH bike, not an enduro.
b) It's a high pivot horst link.

a) It is a both bike.

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3/3/2023 3:37pm
Primoz wrote:

a) It's a DH bike, not an enduro.
b) It's a high pivot horst link.

To be thourough and precise:

a) it’s a dh-bike;

b) it’s an enduro bike as well;

c) it’s a horst-link high-pivot;

d) it can take a gearbox or the new prototype drivetrain in the future;

e) it’s possible to order with custom geo;

f) it’s essentially a cr-mo/alu Norco Range HP on steroids with dh-standards for rear hub and bb. 
 

So yeah, regretably it’s pricy, but totally understandable why! Wink

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3/3/2023 8:00pm
Pre Order available for the Trinity frame.  

Pre Order available for the Trinity frame.

EE2D997E-4661-43C2-986C-DE36A0A93FA6

 

WHACK pricing

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3/4/2023 3:28am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 4:20am

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2023 C-dale habit. 130mm on the rear, 140 on the front. Full 29”. 

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3/4/2023 7:35am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 7:38am

Not sure if this was posted way back, but looks like WAO has announced the Arrival 130 and looks like a good time. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpWXKQoLPo1/

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3/4/2023 7:38am

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 Habit Longtravel 150/140

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Primoz
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3/4/2023 9:59am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 10:05am
Primoz wrote:

a) It's a DH bike, not an enduro.
b) It's a high pivot horst link.

To be thourough and precise: a) it’s a dh-bike; b) it’s an enduro bike as well; c) it’s a horst-link high-pivot; d) it can take a...

To be thourough and precise:

a) it’s a dh-bike;

b) it’s an enduro bike as well;

c) it’s a horst-link high-pivot;

d) it can take a gearbox or the new prototype drivetrain in the future;

e) it’s possible to order with custom geo;

f) it’s essentially a cr-mo/alu Norco Range HP on steroids with dh-standards for rear hub and bb. 
 

So yeah, regretably it’s pricy, but totally understandable why! Wink

Well the BB can probably be anything you want and the DH standard for the rear hub is then just SuperBoost if you go with the narrower BB shell.

Didn't know it's a both bike, but is that in the same geometry or the exact same frame? Just throw a 12spd drivetrain and a single crown fork on it and off you go?

The high pivot part and 'it can take a gearbox and co.' part I didn't mention, but it plays a big role in it all, at least the gearbox part. As for custom geo, I was fully expecting that or aiming at that considering the 'one-offness' I mentioned.

So, yeah, pricy, but is it REALLY that FAR out there considering what it is?

 

As for the Habit, interesting to see that what used to be downcountry bikes seem to be pushed basically into enduro territory almost. The long travel Habit (Bad Habit) used to be a 120/120 bike, now it's a 150/140. Fuel EX is now up to a 160 mm fork when it used to be 120/120 as well. Any other examples?

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3/4/2023 10:52am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 10:53am
Primoz wrote:
Well the BB can probably be anything you want and the DH standard for the rear hub is then just SuperBoost if you go with the...

Well the BB can probably be anything you want and the DH standard for the rear hub is then just SuperBoost if you go with the narrower BB shell.

Didn't know it's a both bike, but is that in the same geometry or the exact same frame? Just throw a 12spd drivetrain and a single crown fork on it and off you go?

The high pivot part and 'it can take a gearbox and co.' part I didn't mention, but it plays a big role in it all, at least the gearbox part. As for custom geo, I was fully expecting that or aiming at that considering the 'one-offness' I mentioned.

So, yeah, pricy, but is it REALLY that FAR out there considering what it is?

 

As for the Habit, interesting to see that what used to be downcountry bikes seem to be pushed basically into enduro territory almost. The long travel Habit (Bad Habit) used to be a 120/120 bike, now it's a 150/140. Fuel EX is now up to a 160 mm fork when it used to be 120/120 as well. Any other examples?

This isn't recent but the Sight used to be a 130/140 bike, and now it's a 150/160 bike. 

Primoz
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Good point actually, the Sight also took up the space in the lineup that the Range occupied before the current set of bikes came out. And the Range also moved on up quite a bit travel-wise.

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