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lickmycrinkle 6/30/2022 6:20am
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Anyone here anything about a mullet Nomad being released by SC in a couple of weeks? I wouldn’t have believed it was true only it’s from...
Anyone here anything about a mullet Nomad being released by SC in a couple of weeks? I wouldn’t have believed it was true only it’s from a pretty reliable source
A friend was offered one as a warranty to his broken Megatower.
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big b 6/30/2022 6:47am
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The mystery yellow Ebike is indeed the new Fuel EXe. 14k for the AXS XX1 9.9.
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theweaz 6/30/2022 7:51am
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TallPaul_S wrote:
That explains the electronic dropper seen a few months ago here (pic was removed) [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/30/12673/s1200_s780_29214E03_C3B8_40E7_9303_6B3ACDEAB191.jpg[/img]
That explains the electronic dropper seen a few months ago here (pic was removed)


I’m more interested in what’s going on with that custom linkage. Looks like they made a new front shock mount that bolts to the bottle cage, allowing them to run the shock with the reservoir on the bottom for some reason.
styriabeef 6/30/2022 8:23am
6/30/2022 8:23am
big b wrote:
The mystery yellow Ebike is indeed the new Fuel EXe. 14k for the AXS XX1 9.9.
My Forestal was a steal compared to that.
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Primoz 6/30/2022 8:42am
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theweaz wrote:
I’m more interested in what’s going on with that custom linkage. Looks like they made a new front shock mount that bolts to the bottle cage...
I’m more interested in what’s going on with that custom linkage. Looks like they made a new front shock mount that bolts to the bottle cage, allowing them to run the shock with the reservoir on the bottom for some reason.
Probably leverage curve shape, among other things, given the custom scissor link and rocker link...
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mtbman99 6/30/2022 11:49am
6/30/2022 11:49am
FullSend wrote:
Anyone here heard any rumors about a new version of the Scott Ransom? As far ahead of the curve as that bike was in 2018, others...
Anyone here heard any rumors about a new version of the Scott Ransom?

As far ahead of the curve as that bike was in 2018, others have now caught up and the Ransom could do with an update IMO.

I just hope they don't go full-on integration like they did with the Spark, Spark RC and Patron. Would also be cool if they made the TwinLoc optional.
baronKanon wrote:
Far ahead of the curve is pushing it. Lagging behind is more fit: - Inline shock on "superenduro" bike - Twinlock - Not that radical geometry...
Far ahead of the curve is pushing it. Lagging behind is more fit:
- Inline shock on "superenduro" bike
- Twinlock
- Not that radical geometry

I think I demoed one, and it was a bag of shit to pedal and decend.
Yeah I rode one as a loaner from the shop and did not like the way it rode. That being said I haven't liked any of the Scott bikes that I have ridden. I don't know if its the shock tune or what but they just never feel quite right to me.
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noideamtber 6/30/2022 3:38pm
6/30/2022 3:38pm
FullSend wrote:
Anyone here heard any rumors about a new version of the Scott Ransom? As far ahead of the curve as that bike was in 2018, others...
Anyone here heard any rumors about a new version of the Scott Ransom?

As far ahead of the curve as that bike was in 2018, others have now caught up and the Ransom could do with an update IMO.

I just hope they don't go full-on integration like they did with the Spark, Spark RC and Patron. Would also be cool if they made the TwinLoc optional.
baronKanon wrote:
Far ahead of the curve is pushing it. Lagging behind is more fit: - Inline shock on "superenduro" bike - Twinlock - Not that radical geometry...
Far ahead of the curve is pushing it. Lagging behind is more fit:
- Inline shock on "superenduro" bike
- Twinlock
- Not that radical geometry

I think I demoed one, and it was a bag of shit to pedal and decend.
mtbman99 wrote:
Yeah I rode one as a loaner from the shop and did not like the way it rode. That being said I haven't liked any of...
Yeah I rode one as a loaner from the shop and did not like the way it rode. That being said I haven't liked any of the Scott bikes that I have ridden. I don't know if its the shock tune or what but they just never feel quite right to me.
News from my Local scott guy who had the rep in not long ago said they are not too far away but shock will be laid down in the downtube.. again like the bold... he said "newer geo" but wouldnt give us any numbers, Models will be available without front twinloc so forks arnt overpriced/fit4. Rear shock in ransom will be able to handle piggyback. despite being internal.

apparently bold bikes are now available through scott retailers at end of year...

I've ridden/owned both genius and Ransom, they climbed OK but still require removal of the front loc to actually get weight over the front. In short, both went down the hill like crap compared to other bikes. Other than HTA both bikes were behind the geo ball right from their update in 2018. 100% would not recommend current scott trail/enduro bikes, the XC and DH bikes are good though lol...
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sspomer 7/1/2022 7:20am
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posting screengrab of garbaruk cranks b/c they look neat

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Primoz 7/1/2022 7:40am
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I wonder how many arms and legs it will cost... And what BB it will run on.
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jonkranked 7/1/2022 7:50am
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Primoz wrote:
I wonder how many arms and legs it will cost... And what BB it will run on.
probably all of them if they actually hit that weight.... which is 20g less than eewings.

if you click through the instagram link you can see the spindle, looks 30mm to me.
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Primoz 7/1/2022 8:36am
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'What BB' as in their own design or something off the shelf. That's what interests me. If they would piggyback on dub for example or something similar, it would make it a lot more interesting, as it's a proven BB (used in thousands around the world) and you can get it cheaply anywhere you want.

If they are to make their own, how well is it sealed? Being able to replace just the bearings on its own would be a plus, but given how modern BBs with large diameter spindles are made (thin plastic sleeves in the bearings to prevent creaking and chewing up the aluminium spindles), I'm not too hopeful for that one...
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trailvolution 7/1/2022 8:47am
7/1/2022 8:47am Edited Date/Time 7/1/2022 8:51am
big b wrote:
The mystery yellow Ebike is indeed the new Fuel EXe. 14k for the AXS XX1 9.9.
I think we can consider this confirmed as there are already ads for the bike on Instagram leading to this post on the German, Austrian and Swiss Trek Instagram page:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfdz7vAtit8/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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bulletbass man 7/1/2022 4:07pm
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Primoz wrote:
'What BB' as in their own design or something off the shelf. That's what interests me. If they would piggyback on dub for example or something...
'What BB' as in their own design or something off the shelf. That's what interests me. If they would piggyback on dub for example or something similar, it would make it a lot more interesting, as it's a proven BB (used in thousands around the world) and you can get it cheaply anywhere you want.

If they are to make their own, how well is it sealed? Being able to replace just the bearings on its own would be a plus, but given how modern BBs with large diameter spindles are made (thin plastic sleeves in the bearings to prevent creaking and chewing up the aluminium spindles), I'm not too hopeful for that one...
5dev offers their cranks in 30 and dub. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the norm for anyone not named shimano
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mfoga 7/2/2022 8:26pm
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Speaking of Gabaruk anyone have experience with the cassettes?
jason.west.750 7/2/2022 10:06pm
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mfoga wrote:
Speaking of Gabaruk anyone have experience with the cassettes?
Yes l do. I have an 11sp with 50t cog and overall l am pleased. Very light and shifts pretty good with a XT derailleur, xtr shifter and KMC 12sp chain. I can't compare this to a Shimano or SRAM cassette in the shifting department as l haven't used one of those in many years. Well worth looking at if you are using an 11sp drivetrain.
baronKanon 7/2/2022 10:28pm
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mfoga wrote:
Speaking of Gabaruk anyone have experience with the cassettes?
Yes. Exclusively using them Wink Light, shift well, cheaper than SRAM, long lasting
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Martin_Prophet 7/3/2022 8:57am
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New Canyon spotted in Planai

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TheShortestCharles 7/3/2022 9:40am
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Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

High pivot Sender?
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Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

Ideally a high- or mid-pivot sender in aluminum. In my view there is no advantage to have a carbon DH race bike. Rode the latest version of the Sender back to back with the Supreme and it was noticeably more nervous. Guess the weight was a big factor. But maybe that’s just me 😉

Anyway, super interested in seeing in which direction they go and if they will race it already in one of the upcoming world cups.
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noideamtber 7/3/2022 1:55pm
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When are we doing to discuss the 500g of weight thats been put onto dh bikes?

The PB forums/comments preach lighter is better
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sspomer 7/3/2022 6:08pm
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noideamtber wrote:
When are we doing to discuss the 500g of weight thats been put onto dh bikes?

The PB forums/comments preach lighter is better
like the ones strapped to laurie's v10 in January?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRZiE1Ifnxs
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Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

Bit of photoshop helped make the image a little bigger maybe


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lickmycrinkle 7/4/2022 2:56am
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Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

Planai is Schladming. I clearly says Morzine - Portes du Soleil right there.
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Martin_Prophet 7/4/2022 3:25am
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Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

lickmycrinkle wrote:
Planai is Schladming. I clearly says Morzine - Portes du Soleil right there.
You're right, it was in Pleney
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Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

lickmycrinkle wrote:
Planai is Schladming. I clearly says Morzine - Portes du Soleil right there.
Martin_Prophet wrote:
You're right, it was in Pleney
If they are testing a proto on Le Pleney they really want it to be seen. I can't think of a less secret place to test!
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FullSend 7/4/2022 4:52am
7/4/2022 4:52am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2022 2:42am
Martin_Prophet wrote:
New Canyon spotted in Planai [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/12677/s1200_71FB4B1C_7385_49EA_BB5E_A59C13556C96.jpeg.jpg[/img]
New Canyon spotted in Planai

C-LION wrote:
Ideally a high- or mid-pivot sender in aluminum. In my view there is no advantage to have a carbon DH race bike. Rode the latest version...
Ideally a high- or mid-pivot sender in aluminum. In my view there is no advantage to have a carbon DH race bike. Rode the latest version of the Sender back to back with the Supreme and it was noticeably more nervous. Guess the weight was a big factor. But maybe that’s just me 😉

Anyway, super interested in seeing in which direction they go and if they will race it already in one of the upcoming world cups.
I know for a fact that there are currently no plans for an aluminium version of the Sender.

They've got the Torque AL, which is basically a DH bike and can be built up to 200mm/185mm with a long-stroke shock, dual-crown fork. And the frame is Category 5 certified, exactly like the Sender.
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Primoz 7/4/2022 5:17am
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lickmycrinkle wrote:
Planai is Schladming. I clearly says Morzine - Portes du Soleil right there.
Martin_Prophet wrote:
You're right, it was in Pleney
JamesR_2026 wrote:
If they are testing a proto on Le Pleney they really want it to be seen. I can't think of a less secret place to test!
Security through obscurity...
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em_comp 7/4/2022 3:21pm
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New video in embn about fazua factory. Showing it on a pivot frame
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