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MiniMulletMafia 6/1/2022 6:29pm
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MiniMulletMafia wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12573/s1200_image.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12574/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


New supreme sx??
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Primoz 6/1/2022 9:08pm
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Jrp wrote:
Sram has their new motor on bikes for the 1st e-EWS round in Scotland
Whattheheel wrote:
https://bikerumor.com/spotted-prototype-sram-motor-on-alloy-nukeproof-megawatt-emtb/
Jrp wrote:
I’ve heard sram are sharing a lot of tech and parts with specialised for this motor. Probably how Yannik is able to run it on his...
I’ve heard sram are sharing a lot of tech and parts with specialised for this motor. Probably how Yannik is able to run it on his levo
Which one, the Brose one or their "own" SL one?
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Kale123 6/1/2022 11:02pm
6/1/2022 11:02pm Edited Date/Time 6/1/2022 11:03pm
Adjustable seat stay bridge again?


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juliusk 6/1/2022 11:19pm
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MiniMulletMafia wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12573/s1200_image.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12574/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


That very much does look like a regular supreme with a single crown, at least I can’t spot a difference on the frame. I think it also doesn’t have a dropper post.
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Kale123 wrote:
Adjustable seat stay bridge again? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12575/s1200_F496078D_1C94_4014_8EA6_1E1B853AD6C3.jpg[/img]
Adjustable seat stay bridge again?


It's got 3 positions, says so in the BikeRumor article.
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jasperg21 6/1/2022 11:37pm
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Is Jack riding the old strive?
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JohSch 6/1/2022 11:56pm
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Masjo wrote:
Is there some reason everyone is going through the headset vs just behind or something easier for maintenance but similar aero? With the UCI relaxing the...
Is there some reason everyone is going through the headset vs just behind or something easier for maintenance but similar aero? With the UCI relaxing the frame shape rule for road and MTBs having longer top tube/head tube junctions, could you not tuck the cables underneath the stem and then have them dive into the frame just behind the headset bearing? Maybe that would look too weird and be slightly less aero, but there's got to be room in these new deeper frames to make it happen. Just look at the white 'Fuel EX' proto from the last page, or the Domane RSL at Roubaix - surely there is now enough space behind the fork/headset that a cable could enter the top tube and make it into the downtube at a gentle enough bend?Oddly enough, Trek did this on the 'current' Domane road frame but then changed to through-the-headset routing on all of its new road frames, including this latest updated Domane.
Maybe there is a problem with how the routing works in such a high stress area, but I don't want my upper headset bearing being so exposed to the elements, and having the lower headset bearing (which I commonly replace annually) require a full brake line removal to deal with. I suppose if you had those fancy new solid polymer 'lifetime' bearings in your headset and/or you bleed your brakes once a year anyways it wouldn't be the biggest hassle.
It´s cheaper to manufacture. See the other thread...
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krabo83 6/2/2022 12:53am
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jasperg21 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12576/s1200_CDCFABDC_60D1_4A06_B7D3_4C6EEA0BDD61.jpg[/img] Is Jack riding the old strive?


Is Jack riding the old strive?
good find! definitely the old one.
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jasperg21 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/01/12576/s1200_CDCFABDC_60D1_4A06_B7D3_4C6EEA0BDD61.jpg[/img] Is Jack riding the old strive?


Is Jack riding the old strive?
krabo83 wrote:
good find! definitely the old one.
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him running a small,
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krabo83 6/2/2022 5:47am
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mike_dee wrote:
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him...
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him running a small,
really a small? would‘ve guessed to see him on a medium which would still be on the shorter side for him.
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dolface 6/2/2022 6:18am
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mike_dee wrote:
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him...
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him running a small,
krabo83 wrote:
really a small? would‘ve guessed to see him on a medium which would still be on the shorter side for him.
IIRC he was already on a medium...
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mike_dee wrote:
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him...
In his vid he couldn't get the new shock to feel like the old one on the new bike, also the bike sizing changes has him running a small,
krabo83 wrote:
really a small? would‘ve guessed to see him on a medium which would still be on the shorter side for him.
dolface wrote:
IIRC he was already on a medium...
Then the new Strive came out, where the medium was in large territory, so now he is on a small which is actually about what most people would consider a medium, so he is back to where he started, make sense?

short version: bike sizing is messed up, Jack is faster than us, he can just whatever he wants.
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Primoz 6/2/2022 8:09am
6/2/2022 8:09am Edited Date/Time 6/2/2022 8:17am
https://i.imgur.com/4sa9r7I.png

Modified upper link too?

RE Jack, I think he's ~190 cm and ran an XL Spectral at home for training, but raced an L Strive. So I'm guessing he's on a Medium now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22SbrPJ6c3Q
Says that in the first 30 seconds. And he downsized for nimbility (:D), the fit of the XL was better for him.
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krabo83 6/2/2022 8:17am
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Primoz wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/4sa9r7I.png Modified upper link too? RE Jack, I think he's ~190 cm and ran an XL Spectral at home for training, but raced an L Strive...
https://i.imgur.com/4sa9r7I.png

Modified upper link too?

RE Jack, I think he's ~190 cm and ran an XL Spectral at home for training, but raced an L Strive. So I'm guessing he's on a Medium now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22SbrPJ6c3Q
Says that in the first 30 seconds. And he downsized for nimbility (:D), the fit of the XL was better for him.
would‘ve been my guess.
Sol.Cob 6/2/2022 11:18am
6/2/2022 11:18am
He definitely said he was on a small in most recent vid on the new bike. Started medium then I presume sized down again to match old bike more closely since his old Large was like 447mm reach after his mods. Seems to have given up for now and gone back.
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Faster Than U 6/2/2022 12:43pm
6/2/2022 12:43pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2022 12:55pm
baronKanon wrote:
Seems Pole have discontinued all non-electric bikes. Stamina is removed from their page, and Taival and Evolink are still there. Seems they are there because they...
Seems Pole have discontinued all non-electric bikes. Stamina is removed from their page, and Taival and Evolink are still there. Seems they are there because they are still in stock.
Eoin wrote:
Has anyone actually bought one of those 10k monstrosities?
baronKanon wrote:
The Pole Owners group on Facebook has turned into an ebike circle jerk with people humping their Voimas.
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley. Currently in 3rd and 14th in front of some big names. Funny how some people hate on things just because they look a little different, regardless if they actually work good or not. Especially when they, (the haters) have no actual experience on them. Don’t be afraid to look outside the box. Nothing can progress without innovation.

https://admin.enduroworldseries.com/uploads/documents/races/1654183498.pdf

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whoa. ^^^
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Faster Than U wrote:
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley...
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley. Currently in 3rd and 14th in front of some big names. Funny how some people hate on things just because they look a little different, regardless if they actually work good or not. Especially when they, (the haters) have no actual experience on them. Don’t be afraid to look outside the box. Nothing can progress without innovation.

https://admin.enduroworldseries.com/uploads/documents/races/1654183498.pdf

Found the Pole owner!
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chasewarner2 6/2/2022 2:32pm
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This post is from a day or two ago, but this looks very interesting to me. View this post on Instagram A post shared by Cascade...
This post is from a day or two ago, but this looks very interesting to me.

I believe this is Crestline's prototype DH bike in the making




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Faster Than U 6/2/2022 2:59pm
6/2/2022 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2022 3:04pm
Faster Than U wrote:
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley...
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley. Currently in 3rd and 14th in front of some big names. Funny how some people hate on things just because they look a little different, regardless if they actually work good or not. Especially when they, (the haters) have no actual experience on them. Don’t be afraid to look outside the box. Nothing can progress without innovation.

https://admin.enduroworldseries.com/uploads/documents/races/1654183498.pdf

nskerb wrote:
Found the Pole owner!
Nope, don’t own a Pole or an ebike. Not yet anyway.

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thejake 6/2/2022 3:21pm
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Edthorne wrote:
This post is from a day or two ago, but this looks very interesting to me. View this post on Instagram A post shared by Cascade...
This post is from a day or two ago, but this looks very interesting to me.

Makes sense. It’s a Virtual Pivot, make the links so it’s a mid high to high pivot and it needs an idler. Question is how do you attach the idler so it doesn’t void the warranty.
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TheShortestCharles 6/2/2022 4:04pm
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thejake wrote:
Makes sense. It’s a Virtual Pivot, make the links so it’s a mid high to high pivot and it needs an idler. Question is how do...
Makes sense. It’s a Virtual Pivot, make the links so it’s a mid high to high pivot and it needs an idler. Question is how do you attach the idler so it doesn’t void the warranty.
It's a custom frame using a VPP design, not a Santa Cruz frame.
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sspomer 6/2/2022 8:02pm
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chasewarner2 wrote:
I believe this is Crestline's prototype DH bike in the making [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/02/12578/s1200_Screenshot_2022_06_02_143036.jpg[/img]
I believe this is Crestline's prototype DH bike in the making




this is why i love our tech forum. thanks for the intel!
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creg 6/2/2022 9:35pm
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Finally a DH bike that fits a water bottle in the front triangle!
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chasewarner2 wrote:
I believe this is Crestline's prototype DH bike in the making [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/06/02/12578/s1200_Screenshot_2022_06_02_143036.jpg[/img]
I believe this is Crestline's prototype DH bike in the making




sspomer wrote:
this is why i love our tech forum. thanks for the intel!
PB Tech editors love it also, saves them from having to do any actual work other than ctrl-C/ctrl-V ;o)
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Faster Than U wrote:
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley...
Looks like those “monstrosities” and their owners that are in a “circle jerk” are currently doing pretty good in the ews e race at tweed valley. Currently in 3rd and 14th in front of some big names. Funny how some people hate on things just because they look a little different, regardless if they actually work good or not. Especially when they, (the haters) have no actual experience on them. Don’t be afraid to look outside the box. Nothing can progress without innovation.

https://admin.enduroworldseries.com/uploads/documents/races/1654183498.pdf

nskerb wrote:
Found the Pole owner!
Faster Than U wrote:
Nope, don’t own a Pole or an ebike. Not yet anyway.

I think the pole looks great. Bb is a bit high but thatd allow me to mullet it quite ez. Have to give props to pole for the quick swap to a bosch system in mid developement too. Id consider one if the first year bikes hold up and a few good support stories
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BlueSpruce 6/3/2022 2:01pm
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Still no word on the Hightower V3? Should be 'due' for an update next month.
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hardbash 6/3/2022 4:06pm
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Sol.Cob wrote:
He definitely said he was on a small in most recent vid on the new bike. Started medium then I presume sized down again to match...
He definitely said he was on a small in most recent vid on the new bike. Started medium then I presume sized down again to match old bike more closely since his old Large was like 447mm reach after his mods. Seems to have given up for now and gone back.
Yep and he said he put in an angle set to steepen the head angle with the 180mm fork installed
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