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6/18/2021 7:02 AM

baronKanon wrote:

Maybe. Let us see how it will span out, when it will be available etc.

I mostly do more mellow trail riding, but man, the ...more

LLLLL wrote:

You do realise the latest nomad peddles like a tallboy now?

Primoz wrote:

It doesn't. It might not bob, but that has nothing to do with overall performance. A heavy bike, even if the antisquat is ...more

I only mentioned peddling. Check the anti squat for both there pretty close, heavier bikes are heavier we all get that.

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6/18/2021 7:30 AM

Well baron did mention general trail riding if we (I) are nitpicking...

No surprise antisquat values are similar, how many bobby bikes are left out there? I think bob wise kinematics have been dealt with overall.

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6/18/2021 1:46 PM

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6/18/2021 2:29 PM

LLLLL wrote:

You do realise the latest nomad peddles like a tallboy now?

Primoz wrote:

It doesn't. It might not bob, but that has nothing to do with overall performance. A heavy bike, even if the antisquat is ...more

LLLLL wrote:

I only mentioned peddling. Check the anti squat for both there pretty close, heavier bikes are heavier we all get that.

peddling
/ˈpɛd(ə)lɪŋ/
noun
the activity of selling an illegal drug or stolen item.

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6/18/2021 3:21 PM

Jrp wrote: Photo
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That looks really nice!

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6/18/2021 4:14 PM

Hey everyone, I've got a heater for you today. It looks like SRAM are officially working on an active suspension system to compete with Fox's Live Valve system. The cool thing about SRAM’s is that the controller, battery, and motor are all encased in a single component that attaches directly to the shock. It’s extremely compact and unobtrusive. In the end, this system attempts to do the same thing as any active system — make more grip by automatically adjusting fluid flow a zillion times per second. The best part: this is entirely wireless.

What do we think?

And if you enjoy these, please feel free to follow along on IG or Facebook. The links are in my signature.

https://wheelbased.com/2021/06/18/bicycle-suspension-components-and-electronic-control-devices-by-sram/

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6/18/2021 5:23 PM

I'm just waiting for an integrated dropper/rear shock system. On a modern enduro rig post up probably means shock firmed up, and post down means shock open.

One lever to rule them all.

Integration could also add oil volume to a shock without adding more weight.

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6/18/2021 5:27 PM

ahleic09 wrote:

I'm just waiting for an integrated dropper/rear shock system. On a modern enduro rig post up probably means shock firmed up, ...more

BMC from a couple years ago wants you!

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6/18/2021 6:00 PM

ahleic09 wrote:

I'm just waiting for an integrated dropper/rear shock system. On a modern enduro rig post up probably means shock firmed up, ...more

Why do that when you can be like Scott and have more levers. MORE LEVERS!!!!

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6/18/2021 8:53 PM

WheelBased wrote:

Hey everyone, I've got a heater for you today. It looks like SRAM are officially working on an active suspension system to ...more

Thanks for reminding me that I took this picture back in 2019. Looks like this has been in the works for a while
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6/18/2021 9:10 PM

WheelBased wrote:

Hey everyone, I've got a heater for you today. It looks like SRAM are officially working on an active suspension system to ...more

querynotfound wrote:

Thanks for reminding me that I took this picture back in 2019. Looks like this has been in the works for a while
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Oh shit bro, do you mind if I put that on this article? Where did you take that? Can you tell me more about it? Fuck I love this thread.

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6/18/2021 9:37 PM

Feel free! I took that picture up at Trestle. IIRC the owner was a Sram employee from Colorado Springs, beyond that I'm not sure. It looked production ready, so I'm surprised it took this long for there to be information on it

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6/19/2021 12:37 AM

ahleic09 wrote:

I'm just waiting for an integrated dropper/rear shock system. On a modern enduro rig post up probably means shock firmed up, ...more

NO!

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6/19/2021 1:56 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/19/2021 4:47 AM

Yeah, hard pass on doubled up lever. I leave my shock open all the time.

EDIT: BTW, it wasn't as live valve-ish as Fox's system is, but RS already had something similar for Ghost, Lapierre and Haibike (the latter at a time they weren't focused only on e-bikes). Was it e:i or something similar?

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6/19/2021 5:55 AM

Primoz wrote:

Yeah, hard pass on doubled up lever. I leave my shock open all the time.

EDIT: BTW, it wasn't as live valve-ish as Fox's ...more

Yes that's correct. I had a Ghost that was all ported up for it years ago. 2014-ish

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6/19/2021 6:29 AM

Primoz wrote:

Yeah, hard pass on doubled up lever. I leave my shock open all the time.

EDIT: BTW, it wasn't as live valve-ish as Fox's ...more

Ya, they've been trying to do this for a long time. It appears as though the Lapierre system is quite a bit different. They took an input from the fork and extrapolated the data to adjust the rear shock because there was no sensor in the rear triangle. So, the system would sense a bump at the fork, then determine speed with a speed sensor, and try to anticipate the change to the rear shock with a delay function. It was crude, but a good intermediate step.

K2 also tried all the way back in the late 90's. The concept is there, we're just seeing refinement and iterations toward the correct answer. They'll get there eventually. It just takes time and money.

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6/19/2021 7:51 AM

The E:I also had a cadence sensor, leaving the shock open when you weren't pedalling. It would open/close only while pedalling (closing if there was no input from the fork).

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6/19/2021 8:33 AM

Primoz wrote:

It doesn't. It might not bob, but that has nothing to do with overall performance. A heavy bike, even if the antisquat is ...more

LLLLL wrote:

I only mentioned peddling. Check the anti squat for both there pretty close, heavier bikes are heavier we all get that.

lickmycrinkle wrote:

peddling
/ˈpɛd(ə)lɪŋ/
noun
the activity of selling an illegal drug or stolen item.

It's a verb. The act of selling. Just saying.

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6/19/2021 1:05 PM

ahleic09 wrote:

I'm just waiting for an integrated dropper/rear shock system. On a modern enduro rig post up probably means shock firmed up, ...more

I'm personally hoping you can set your own "map" since by the looks of things there will be a pedal sensor along with the current dropper post and shifters.

So you could maybe set a rule like "dropper at full height" + "shifter in easiest gear" = Firmest position or "seat down" + "constant pedalling" = 60% LSC etc.

Just speculating! But this is what I would do

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6/19/2021 5:28 PM

to really be effective it would be slowing LSR down too like the cane creek climb switch, their one works the best of all of them IMO.

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6/20/2021 5:27 PM

Just wondering if anyone has any info on 7 speed axs and when it going to drop?

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6/20/2021 5:48 PM

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New rotors from sram as they are 220mm as you can see on the back with the 40mm post mount
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6/20/2021 5:55 PM

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and looks like a custom mount on the front
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6/21/2021 2:29 AM

Someone commented on th Hayes Dorado product page about the fork being discontinued, and they replied: "Ledgens never die", and link to this :

https://hayesbicycle.com/pages/dorado

Maybe this was mentioned a few pages back when the guy at darkfest was running what looked to be a (new) Dorado.

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6/21/2021 3:13 AM

querynotfound wrote:

Thanks for reminding me that I took this picture back in 2019. Looks like this has been in the works for a while
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This could well be the same Sentinel that drove an RS engineer to design the MegNeg.

This bike only came with a DPX back then and it would likely have to have been owned by an RS employee for it to have a SuperDeluxe, and a prototype one, in fact.

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6/21/2021 4:40 AM

New Norco Range will be released on Wednesday evening 6pm CET I heard

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6/21/2021 5:48 AM

C-LION wrote:

New Norco Range will be released on Wednesday evening 6pm CET I heard

I have Seen it yesterday
It Looks really good and seems to be fast.
Was at a swiss Downhill cup.

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6/21/2021 8:00 AM

noeserdalt wrote:

New maxxis sidewall protection? ZK

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jeff231 wrote:

Interesting, and 2.50 wide too. Current DHR IIs are 2.40.

ZK is a puncture protection material from the Maxxis road line. It's been adapted to DH for team use only at the moment. ZK is considerably more expensive than existing materials which is why it hasn't made it into production tires. That and most of us mere mortal DH riders don't need the extra protection.

The 2.5 DHR is a team only spec as well just to keep the Minion SKUs from getting (even more) bloated.

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6/21/2021 8:30 AM

Is the ZK puncture or tear protection? Could it be used with an EXO casing to make a better, light casing?

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6/21/2021 8:38 AM

Primoz wrote:

Is the ZK puncture or tear protection? Could it be used with an EXO casing to make a better, light casing?

My understanding is that it's used as a breaker layer underneath the tread to help prevent punctures. There are many potential applications for the material.

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