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noeserdalt 6/22/2021 6:52am
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New grim donut prototype by pivot?


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noeserdalt wrote:
New grim donut prototype by pivot? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11017/s1200_Screenshot_20210622_152716_Instagram.jpg[/img]
New grim donut prototype by pivot?


Think it might be the devinci prototype that was spotted a couple of months ago
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baronKanon 6/22/2021 7:20am
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Nice "carbon" stickers on that frame.
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skiermatt2 6/22/2021 8:11am
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Full shot of the new (probably) Firebird.
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noeserdalt 6/22/2021 8:20am
6/22/2021 8:20am Edited Date/Time 6/22/2021 8:21am
noeserdalt wrote:
New grim donut prototype by pivot? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11017/s1200_Screenshot_20210622_152716_Instagram.jpg[/img]
New grim donut prototype by pivot?


mitch160 wrote:
Think it might be the devinci prototype that was spotted a couple of months ago
90° sta and 29x4.8 tire clearence doesn't makes sense on a production bike unless its some extreme fatbike
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jonkranked 6/22/2021 8:24am
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noeserdalt wrote:
90° sta and 29x4.8 tire clearence doesn't makes sense on a production bike unless its some extreme fatbike
doesn't make sense on a prototype either, but I'm intrigued either way
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bermslapper69 6/22/2021 8:34am
6/22/2021 8:34am
noeserdalt wrote:
90° sta and 29x4.8 tire clearence doesn't makes sense on a production bike unless its some extreme fatbike
jonkranked wrote:
doesn't make sense on a prototype either, but I'm intrigued either way
The sticker is obviously just taking the piss outta forum goblins and the classic: spy shot Monday, full review Tuesday phenomenon
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Nico_Hrndz 6/22/2021 9:39am
6/22/2021 9:39am
noeserdalt wrote:
Enduromag released the new Norco Range before the Norco itself [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11020/s1200_WhatsApp_Image_2021_06_22_at_19.15.55.jpg[/img] full article: https://enduro-mtb.com/en/new-2022-norco-range/
Enduromag released the new Norco Range before the Norco itself





full article: https://enduro-mtb.com/en/new-2022-norco-range/
404 already. Poor thing, gone so soon.
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mfoga 6/22/2021 10:20am
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XRC 1501 wheels?
Vedran_Baric 6/22/2021 10:42am
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170 mm travel, 29.
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Vedran_Baric wrote:
170 mm travel, 29.[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11021/s1200_FB_IMG_1624383609833.jpg[/img]
170 mm travel, 29.
Looks like a mullet.
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noeserdalt 6/22/2021 11:16am
6/22/2021 11:16am Edited Date/Time 6/22/2021 11:18am
Geo is not extreme, 480 reach and 447 chainstay on the size large also 63.5 or 64 hta [(no flipchip) i don't remember the numbers clearly]
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TheShortestCharles 6/22/2021 11:28am
6/22/2021 11:28am
Vedran_Baric wrote:
170 mm travel, 29.[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11021/s1200_FB_IMG_1624383609833.jpg[/img]
170 mm travel, 29.
I can't tell if the wheel and brake mounts are attached to the upper 'seatstay' link or the lower 'chainstay' link - upper would mean it's a high single pivot with a linkage driving the shock, while lower would be a sort of vertically flipped Horst link like the Antidote Darkmatter. Maybe the dropouts could be switched between the two types somehow? It would change the kinematics though, especially anti-rise and axle path.
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madsam9 6/22/2021 11:33am
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TheShortestCharles wrote:
I can't tell if the wheel and brake mounts are attached to the upper 'seatstay' link or the lower 'chainstay' link - upper would mean it's...
I can't tell if the wheel and brake mounts are attached to the upper 'seatstay' link or the lower 'chainstay' link - upper would mean it's a high single pivot with a linkage driving the shock, while lower would be a sort of vertically flipped Horst link like the Antidote Darkmatter. Maybe the dropouts could be switched between the two types somehow? It would change the kinematics though, especially anti-rise and axle path.
it is an upside down horst, it was clearer in some shots of the prototype
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bermslapper69 6/22/2021 11:41am
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Robert_Havill 6/22/2021 11:44am
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Robert_Havill 6/22/2021 11:46am
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noeserdalt wrote:
New grim donut prototype by pivot? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11017/s1200_Screenshot_20210622_152716_Instagram.jpg[/img]
New grim donut prototype by pivot?


The new devinci
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chasewarner2 6/22/2021 12:12pm
6/22/2021 12:12pm
Vedran_Baric wrote:
170 mm travel, 29.[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11021/s1200_FB_IMG_1624383609833.jpg[/img]
170 mm travel, 29.
TheShortestCharles wrote:
I can't tell if the wheel and brake mounts are attached to the upper 'seatstay' link or the lower 'chainstay' link - upper would mean it's...
I can't tell if the wheel and brake mounts are attached to the upper 'seatstay' link or the lower 'chainstay' link - upper would mean it's a high single pivot with a linkage driving the shock, while lower would be a sort of vertically flipped Horst link like the Antidote Darkmatter. Maybe the dropouts could be switched between the two types somehow? It would change the kinematics though, especially anti-rise and axle path.
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay at the pivot which means the axel and brake mount couldn't attach to the chainstay.
anotherbikerguy 6/22/2021 1:20pm
6/22/2021 1:20pm
Good to see Devinci having a little fun with the labels on their prototypes. Bike looks nice too.
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chasewarner2 wrote:
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay...
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay at the pivot which means the axel and brake mount couldn't attach to the chainstay.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/52/43/285243de765603e996efe72650ddfef…

The seatstay goes over the chainstay with the dropout mounted to the chainstay. Looks like a (upside down) Horst Link.
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chasewarner2 wrote:
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay...
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay at the pivot which means the axel and brake mount couldn't attach to the chainstay.

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Primoz 6/22/2021 2:22pm
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Chainstay mounted replaceable (adjustable) dropouts.
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TheShortestCharles 6/22/2021 2:41pm
6/22/2021 2:41pm
chasewarner2 wrote:
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay...
It is a single pivot. The axel and brake mounts are attached to the seatstay. You can see that the seatstay forks over the the chainstay at the pivot which means the axel and brake mount couldn't attach to the chainstay.
Primoz wrote:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/52/43/285243de765603e996efe72650ddfef1.jpg The seatstay goes over the chainstay with the dropout mounted to the chainstay. Looks like a (upside down) Horst Link.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/52/43/285243de765603e996efe72650ddfef…

The seatstay goes over the chainstay with the dropout mounted to the chainstay. Looks like a (upside down) Horst Link.
I'm pretty sure you're right; the prototype from one of their videos used the filpped Horst-link layout. Still, it would be neat if they let you swap out mounting positions
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Agree with the inverted horst link.
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Sonofbovril2 6/22/2021 3:46pm
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Robert_Havill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11024/s1200_Screenshot_20210623_064313_YouTube.jpg[/img]

Looks like a Session 😂
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hamncheez2003 6/22/2021 3:54pm
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Robert_Havill wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/22/11024/s1200_Screenshot_20210623_064313_YouTube.jpg[/img]

Sonofbovril2 wrote:
Looks like a Session 😂
beat me to it!!
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Ambushell 6/22/2021 9:50pm
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I had the luck of running into a Rockshox guy today at Trestle who had some covered up prototype suspension on his bike. Sounds like the Zeb is getting a new damper and air spring early next year. Maybe we will see the new Super Deluxe then as well.
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