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I test rode a tallboy 6 over the weekend (5mi / 600' vert). It is really, really good. I have a ht4 that I love and I love vpp for longer travel bikes. I don't miss it on the new tallboy in the slightest. It goes uphill as well as the previous version with more traction when climbing square ledges and loose over hard... and goes downhill easily 30% better then the previous version. It is half way in between the tallboy 5 and my hightower 4 with regards to descending. Honestly, it's so good and so well rounded that...

It's 185x50. I'm not a fan of trunnion in general, but historically SC tolerances are pretty good and the design seems to be executed well, so I wouldn't expect any issues there.

Latest Bronson & Hightower: 150mm with 230x57.5 shock (2.6 LR) Vala: 150mm with 205x60 shock (2.5 LR) Last Tallboy: 120mm with 190x45 shock (2.67 LR) New Tallboy: 130mm (?) with ~2.5-2.67 LR means ~48.75-52 shock needed; based on the above my guess is a 185x50 looking at the available sizes for the latest Super Deluxe Ultimate Flight Attendant. If it’s still only 120mm rear though then it could definitely be the 165x45 or 185x47.5. We’ll see soon! 😀

I'm sure many have gotten the email, but new Tallboy with CC frame in all builds, 300g lighter than previous version. Despite my disappointment on the travel and 4bar, looks pretty sharp.

If we compare the new horst link tallboy with the Allied Fitz, Forbidden Reya and Transition Smuggler, there a few difference: Tallboy is the only bike using a trunion shock most likely a 185x50, Smuggler and Fitz use a normal 210x50 shock and Reya use a 190x45 shock. So Reya most likely have a higher starting leverage ratio that could limit heavier rider that are getting close to the shock max pressure. Reya, Smuggler and most likely Tallboy use double bearing setup at the chainstay. Santa Cruz does the same for the Bullit and Vala. Allied Fitz has no exploded...

Remember the good old days when we talked about bikes on here?

Long time lurker, first time poster here. For some background I’m an aerospace composites engineer and spent several years in Advanced Product Development with an emphasis on environmentally friendly materials. There’s so much to get into on this topic and if folks are interested I’d love to start a dedicated thread on materials and environmental impacts. The TLDR is, carbon fiber as a green product on its own is a fallacy. The raw fiber production may result in a certain level of carbon sequestering, but the process is still so energy intensive I wouldn’t call it an environmental positive. As...

An absolutely brutal read to slog through. Sorry! What I meant to say was that the subject matter of Orbea's deep dive failed to fully resonate with the intended audience, yielding a suboptimal reading experience, and failing to deliver a holistic win-win for big-picture strategic partners in the greater bike industry ecosystem.

I designed that out of Super Deluxe Coil- we measured 'solid' height of bumpers (I think at our test lab max of 5,000 lbf) and designed stroke length around that. So a RS SDLXC 65 stroke should actually get close to 65mm stroke if you smash it hard enough. Remove the bumper and measure the shaft- should be maybe 1-2mm longer than the stroke length. Edit- also agree with Darren about data... I'd probably do the test blind and look at data after ranking everything. Then maybe see if you can make improvements based on data comparison?

A couple of notes on this one. 1. Coil shock strokes are defined with the bottoming bumper removed. So a 65mm stroke shock can only achieve a maximum of 60-62mm due to the solid height of the bumper. 2, On-board data acquisition is not able to explain why one shock is better performing than another as it's only capable of telling you "what" not "why". A good use of the data is defining what suspension velocities you should use for your dyno tests via tools such as histogram data. Darren

For those that never leave the tech rumours page https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/great-minds-think-alike-ratio-compone…

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGlXfYzMdDA/?igsh=MWFlZ2JvN3E4M2cybA%3D%… Sorry, I'm old, don't know how to embed that thing into my post. Kinda surprised that thing wasn't already here. On another note, a new non-Saint DH drivetrain is a coming!

New TQ will be coming on updated Fuel EXE - Run out sales happening, slash+ To get more models when new TQ comes. I was talking to a trek rep who knows me and said "just wait, You're fussy and youll like whats coming" I buy Far to many bikes.

Can we stop with the pipe dreaming, people would be more likely to glue their head to the table than properly use industrial adhesives in a frame jig. Most people struggle with IKEA,

I've never ridden the SJ15, don't need to as I rode a SJEVo for 3 years and every single thing that I wanted them to fix (i.e. leverage progression, sta, and BB height mainly), Spesh went in the opposite direction. The one thing they had done right (CS length) they went backwards on. Not surprised that bike is a crash and burn. A used SJevo with a Cascade is flat a better bike. I liked mine with the Mullet shock clevis thing, but still running as a 29er. That fixed a lot of crap by making the BB adjustment actually...

Nah. I enjoyed Brain Cahal's (hey assholes!) Bronson comparison, except I too have ridden multiple generations of Bronsons, and guess what, there is a BIG effing difference. The problem as I see it is 3 fold: 1) It was a known regular track, they knew exactly where they were going and that isn't the same as riding your best on a less well known trail. 2) The climbing didn't matter, hello STA & CS length! 3) They are 2 very good riders and that makes up for a lot. Less capable riders are going to be more sensative to HTA...

Yup, one thing I've learned from making things out of all kinds of things from all kinds of materials is that glue can be one of the strongest joints when the parts have the correct clearance, surface finish, cleanliness, application method, fixturing, temperature and cure time but if just one of things is wrong it might be completely useless! A bike company could maybe control 1 or 2 of those things before shipping the parts out but leaving the rest in the hands of a customer is a recipe for disaster...

I was joking with that bit. The rest is accurate