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Yes that why I was talking in relative terms, not absolute as a general description of how they function and not brand specific. Its a glass half full/half empty kind of thing, it all depends on whether you are talking about increasing or decreasing each chamber from the baseline, but it also depends on the relative size of the chambers. Which is where you are correct in that the ohlins chamber is very small so has its effect much closer to the end of the travel. This design has been around a very long time and is usually made to...
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matmattmatthew Liked a comment about Feature TESTED - 2023 Orbea Rise Long Term Review

9/4/2023 10:37am
The only thing I took away from this article is that I need to order one of those sweet water bottles.
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In Finn's situation, he had to say screw it and hope marshalls or cameras couldn't tell. But I'm like you, with full size, angled poles you have a much better reference. Talked to Neko about the new markers last week and he said they all like the new poles b/c they're way less dangerous, so they're here to stay I think. But man, even as a spectator, they don't give you a good idea of where the course is. And I'd rather see them have ones that are 2 feet taller in the inside of turns and triangular like an...
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Would Luca and Finn have run off track if the course was marked with tape? The continuous markings would’ve provided better visual guidance while at race pace. I wear a little mystified Finn didn’t stop and get back on track - did he just not notice he’d blown off course? I reckon Luca would’ve slid off course anyway, but suspect Finn would’ve stayed on. Anyway, well done Dak! He did something special through the middle of the track. That was a helluva run to watch.
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The desire to cut it to a smaller elite only field tell you the people behind the camera don't comprehend the fickly nature of this sport and how tight the racing really is.
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It seemed like when talk of a riders union a few big names who could have really helped make a difference were not very interested. Interestingly those were the same riders who are well taken care of. DH needs the riders of that skill but need more riders who actually want to grow the sport and know not all of the best showed up with a silver spoon.
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Jakub_G Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/4/2023 8:51am
Yes. And I agree that Enduro is not really up to date, only thing that is ok-ish in this day and age is reach and wheelbase, but head angle? Nope. Seat angle? Double nope? Proportional or adjustable chainstay length? You guessed it. And kinematics are not that great either with Almost 3:1 average LR, anyone over 100kg will have very hard time finding the right coil or air shock that can be pumped to necessary pressure.
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hitar_potar Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/4/2023 8:50am
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a 60mm-stroke shock for its 170mm which can be tricky for a little heavier riders. Also, there are now even slacker shorter-travel bikes than the Enduro - they do need to change the geo.
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Thank you all! Super helpful info, and I think you've saved me a ton of faffing. This gives me a much better sense of where my baseline might be, or at least a better starting point than following the manual with fingers crossed and having no additional tools in my toolbox if the manual's prescribed setup doesn't work.

dirty booger Liked a reply to forum topic Suspension Component Technology/Functionality Discussion

9/4/2023 8:47am
The Ohlins 3 chamber air spring is very different from say a DSD RUNT in a Fox fork. The Runt has a similar size piston to the main air spring, where as in the Ohlins fork the 3rd air chamber and piston are tiny. It is inside the shaft for the air spring. Probably how they got around the Runt patents. It works, but is less effective and less "tunable" than a system with a larger 3rd chamber piston. If usually requires much higher pressures to do anything (since the piston is so small). I have an Ohlins DH 38...
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iceman2058 Liked a reply to forum topic Suspension Component Technology/Functionality Discussion

9/4/2023 8:44am
Yep, that's where I found the sweet spot for me. I find the fork less comfortable and more prone to beating my hands up in the rough stuff when I run the recommended air pressure in the ramp up chamber. I'm usually at 10-20% below the recommended values in the ramp up chamber, and then I just dial in the base spring pressure with the main air chamber until sag/ride height/travel use goals are reached. A couple of clicks of low-speed compression when it gets steeper, and I can still get away with running a bit less in the main...
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic Suspension Component Technology/Functionality Discussion

9/4/2023 8:42am
Running the same pressures should make it feel like a single positive chamber fork with no tokens. The higher the difference in pressures, the more it will feel like you have a lot of tokens in the first part of the travel and later the 'blow-off' will happen compared to a full token setup. You need to reach the third chamber pressure inside the main positive chamber for the floating piston to start moving and changing the main positive chamber volume. A triple chamber fork should never feel like a single positive chamber fork except in the two situations where...
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A larger difference in pressures will make it firmer in the initial part of the stroke, making the second chamber engage later in the travel, like the tokens being removed as has been mentioned. So it’s kind of backwards to how you might initially think of it! The larger difference is more like a linear spring than a typical air spring as it’s firmer in the beginning and softer at the end
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Thecolonel Liked a reply to forum topic Suspension Component Technology/Functionality Discussion

9/4/2023 8:41am
The second or ramp chamber (inflate it first) should be about 150-200% of the main chamber. I like to think of it as starting off with a fork with max tokens, so you get the best positive to negative chamber ratio in the beginning to mid stroke. Then somewhere in the mid stroke as the main and secondary chambers equalize in pressure and the secondary piston starts to move into the secondary chamber and away from the main chamber, it's like making tokens magically disappear so you can fine tune the spring ramp deep in the travel. It's a much...
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Hey peanut gallery, any tips or advice for setting up a three chamber air system on a fork? I have the chance to ride one of the new Ohlins RXF.38 m.2 forks soon with the dual positive chamber air spring, but I've never ridden a three-chamber fork like the Ohlins, Manitou, EXT, DSD Runt, etc and I really have no...

echar560 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/3/2023 5:48pm
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like Finn’s DH bike. Not sure if it will be lugged or not.
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Is Chris Ball an actual ghost now? Come out and say something about what’s been going on this year. Answer some questions. Make a statement. Do the opposite of nothing.
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adamdigby Liked a comment about News Story RESULTS: Loudenvielle DH World Cup Finals

9/3/2023 5:37pm
Dakotah started 47 minutes before Loic and Remi was 21 minutes before Dakotah, those two definitely had the rides of the day given the conditions. Can't wait to hear what Dakotah has to say about all the foot off moments and how slippery it was on the B Practice Podcast.
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