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you and me both. but that begs a question for maybe another thread: should there be a short travel shreddy geo 29er bike with a coil shock specific leverage ratio then? seems like a thing Norco would do, or well, Cascade.

Damn dude! I just looked this up and at first glance Ford was the homie for doing something other than maximizing shareholder profits but then I read the next paragraph of the Wikipedia and he was doing that, in part, to squeeze out the dodge bros from using their fordbux to make their competitor brand, so that seem like he’d be a god to the Brinance types oh so smart (usually psychopathic) but then I got very bored and realized that there are no winners in that one and Chevrolets have always been cooler than Fords and/or Dodges. My dad...

I don't buy Ford because of the Michigan Supreme Court's decision in the 1919 case Dodge v. Ford Motor Company.

it's freaking rad that so many are contributing to this! we could only do so much while we're there. keep it coming!

I'm curious.. How does the staff feel about doing the coverage like this? I've personally liked it. Plus, the fact that others have been able to contribute what they saw and liked at the otter is pretty cool...

If only someone made a linkage that allowed a longer shock to to be run on the Levo and it yielded 170 mm of travel. That would be wild.

Pour one out for the new Bosch-based Ibis Oso...

Nah. Top tube straight continuous to seat stays is very 2020. Now it’s all about the grasshopper. Steep down tube to low flat chainstay. And I’m all for it. Maybe your right, straight line is industrial design where grasshopper, is sex. as long as no one does steeper chainstays than top tube. 🤮

Honestly, the Reya is the first XC bike that I really, really want to try as a 6'3" individual. I feel like that jack nichelson nodding meme as I work my way down the geo chart on the XL. Edit: Can we also agree that peak bike industrial design is a straight top tube that aligns directly with the seat tube... connecting the top of the head tube to the rear axle with an un-interrupted straight line?

Loving the long stays, but …. Waiting on that XL reach number…..

Put the CC HP setup on the SJ15 and fight both sides of the aisle Also ya, that shock looks suspicious with the dials...

Totally agree and I have a stumpy15. It was on my list, but not near the top. I was very hesitant to buy a ‘middle of the road’ bike. Well fuck that because not only is it extremely capable and a great all around bike it is the best put together bike I’ve worked on. All bearing and frame spacers are well thought out. It is one of the only bikes I’ve had that has t eaten bearings and had linkage loosen. That’s after a full year of riding in all conditions. It has been put away wet too many...

Comparison of bars with rise modeled in. Both have a similar max load. 35 mm bar is on top and 31.8 mm bar is on bottom. Bending moment is at its maximum on the inboard end and zero at the free end so I think it makes sense that the stiffness of the innermost section of bar is quite influential in terms of deflection. It's worth noting that, while the approximate 0.05" difference in deflection is a little more than 10%, we're still only talking about 0.05" difference. Thin vs. thick grips would easily take up that difference. Ultimately you...

As far as I can tell, they've been selling well. Specialized may have produced a smaller first couple of runs on them, considering the state of bike sales.

Mega Mullet is what I have heard Pon employees describe their test-mule frames as…

One of the most interesting thoughts about biek innovation I've heard in a hot minute tbh

Thanks for the math award. I don’t even practice so it’s double nice. We are also very handsome here on the messageboards. That bike is super dumb looking.

In honor of the 1000th page, we should vote on the best meme of 2025: 👍🏻 for “Crab” 👎🏻 for “6-7” edit: Carcinization is the antithesis of innovation. Maybe we should keep crab talk on the crab talk forum and keep this thread focused on MTB tech rumors and/or innovation.