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Bombproof, I'll believe that one when I see it.

Hard disagree. I use my e-bike to self shuttle up fire roads and down DH trails where the motor doesn't even kick on when I don't have time for a multi-hour epic on the pedal bike. In that context more power is in fact more better.

My condolences to everyone who bought a current gen Levo at full price. There's zero chance the prices stay that level with a $5,000 Amflow around. Cheapest alloy Levo is $6,100 and the cheapest carbon Levo is on sale for $8,000 from it's MSRP of $9,200. (bonkers) Spesh was always dreaming with those prices, I mean even before the Amflow who would choose the Levo over a Vala that costs less? I'm a removable battery absolutist and would still get the Vala over the Levo. Luckily according to Amflow being able to NOT remove your battery quickly is now a...

That could be very possible. Give it a few years. DJI made a 50% increase in power 1st to 2nd gen motors. They're doing some voodoo magic in that motor.

and then you look at overcrowded europe and realize it’s basically an american discussion

There are three guarantees in life: death, taxes, and the internet being absolutely certain that every new e-bike motor release is going to end in disaster. I like to think my view of the world is pretty empirical and observational. So with that in mind, can anyone point me to actual examples of trail closures caused by e-MTBs? We’ve obviously seen issues with SurRons, but my brief Google search and AI-assisted digging turned up basically nothing beyond trails being opened to e-bikes. I cannot find evidence of trail networks being closed to mountain bikes because e-MTB use has meaningfully increased...

so, same as flooring your car how often do you actually do this?

The power always seems to grab the headlines and freak people out. These Avinox bikes are still limited to 20mph like all class 1 bikes and I guess 28mph if you put it into Class 3 Mode (this is the more scarier part I think, they should just eliminate this mode, I'm not even sure if it's still available on the m2/m2s). The big power numbers just seem like a party trick to me, like cheetah mode in a Tesla Plaid, sure it's a fun a few times, but it's not like your going to be doing it at every...

Using WD40 for lube or what? Haven't had that experience myself. I went though I think 2 XT cassettes/sprockets, and a couple chains over 5 years on my Ep8 bike, nothing that crazy. Modern drivetrains are more than capable of handling these torque levels.

Propain has a new Avinox M2S bike too, which will be available to pre-order on April 16. Until then, here's a bit of a teaser: See more and sign up for notifications here: https://www.propain-bikes.com/en/ekano-al/

Here's our Flux One Pro dream build with Avinox M2S

you drive your car on the climb trails in your local area?

how much faster than the legal limit can your car go? how often do you use it’s maximum power?

The Velduro's are shipping with the M2

This would be great if true. I think a lot of the mainstream appeal of the DJI bikes is because of common sense features like fast charge, USBC port, good top tube display, etc. Being able to choose if you want the slight weight penalty of a removable battery or not is another step in that direction. It's a breath of fresh air how DJI is approaching this like a consumer electronics company and not a bike industry company.

UK warranty is handled by Avinox directlty Whichever brand the system is in the providing LBS will have been provided access to the Avinox portal (via Amflow, Forbidden, Unno etc.). They’re process isn’t super slick yet but a replacement motor arrived from my Druid within 3 days of setting up my claim.