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TEAMROBOT Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/18/2025 11:42am
This is so lame. The CEO equivalent of athletes posting #freeshitbro posts on IG. COOL DUDE
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andyjr77 Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/18/2025 8:28am
It's when thry get elevated to Thought Leader
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TheSuspensionLabNZ Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/18/2025 5:57am
No i think of it every time I see a Propain! King of the hill rules
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AgrAde Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/18/2025 5:56am
Weird euro stuff. It would have been like "we want the word pro because pro is about peak performance... propane is a fuel with high energy density and explosive power, can we use that word? What if we change pane to pain? like embracing the pain of a good workout or a really hard effort...?" Meanwhile, English speakers: "PROPAIN AND PROPAIN ACCESSORIES" Nowhere near as bad as the european trials world. "What bike do you ride?" "Oh I used to ride a Koxx but now I have a Crewkerz Cleep."
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metadave Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/17/2025 8:21am
Having seen what happened with Rocky and knowing the pricing on the back end of what some of their higher end bike were going for even in the worst of it, people getting a GX level Capra or Jeffsey for $2600 at the consumer level is absolutely insane. That's someone trying to free up cash flow as fast as possible. That's a two for one Kona process level fire sale.
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Dave_Camp Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/17/2025 8:20am
I promise you- a SuperDeluxe Ultimate costs a lot more than $79 USD/Euro to make... That was my product line for a long time- I have been to the factory and suppliers where they come from.
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threerockcomponents Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/17/2025 8:19am
Care to share this website with the crowd? Wink
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earleb Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 3:20pm
Customer service suicide with sending out that email. So bro, no bike, no refund. Good lucking earning back any goodwill after that.
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kperras Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 3:20pm
Most bike brands have been at the mercy of the big 3(ish*) for a few years now. Their orders are exponentially larger than the rest of the brands, and thus, due to whatever internal pressures they might be facing, drive the pricing we see today. YT is/was a disruptor, but they are still collateral damage as far as I can see. *major players differ by market
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Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 2:29pm
Technically I accounted for those guys when I included "creditor" in the gutted section. Pedantry aside, I didn't see that until right now and that sucks ass.

Blake_Motley Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/16/2025 1:59pm
Beautiful, I didn’t expect anyone to care enough to archive that site. So yeah the address at the bottom of that page is the same address down to the suite number on Rocky Mountains LinkedIn. ”In 2009, the concept for a revolutionary electric drive system was presented to the design team at the company’s headquarters in Beauce, Québec. Propulsion Powercycle was created with the purpose of developing an innovative electric drive system which would be named Dyname.” This reads to me like “The Company” is Rocky Mountain, but I’d like to see the filings that explain the relationships. Okay Spomer...
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Jotegr Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/16/2025 2:00pm
Idontwannaderailthethreadmorebuthereyougo Dyname is the DBA of Propulsion Powercycle Inc. "The Company" would have been Procycle (as it then was), which later changed its name to Rocky Mountain when it dropped all of its weird ancillary stuff like Evox and Miele and (probably rightfully) refocused on Rocky Mountain. I think Rocky Mountain was a further chain below what's shown and Procycle...

Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 1:42pm
I don't think anybody should be "gutted" by the reorg unless you're an effected employee, creditor or sponsored athlete impacted by this. If you're a bike fan/enthusiast, it should be relatively business as usual . Its not like the company is going away or even pausing operations, launches, etc. (unless they gut the race team, then we can all be...

chriskief Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 10:51am
Also curious if he got the bike or just paid for it. The Reddit thread makes the timing of the recent flash sale sound very sketchy.
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 10:50am
I don’t mean to make light of a bad situation, but this felt inevitable. Anyone with any level of inside knowledge of the bike industry could look at YT from 30,000 feet and perhaps wonder if they have long had a money tree or maybe the operation was a money laundering front for the cartel.\ Some head scratchers, in no particular order: -Aggressively low prices (like...how is this possible low pricing) -Bloated SKU count (for them, its mostly the number of builds they have per model of bike) -Complex global supplier web (true for everyone, but their vendor count is...
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Skunk Works Suspension Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 10:49am
It seems like the chaotic variable pricing from many bike industry companies is not really helping the industry and only causes confusion and often resentment from customers. Dumping massive overstock or a big end of the year sale is one thing, but pricing that jumps around month to month is not the same. For example, when PUSH released the 9.1 it was $2600. Earlier this year it was "on sale" for 2-3 months at $2000, currently the price is $2250. If a customer had bought one for $2600, only to see it for $2000 a week later, I imagine they...
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ejj Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 10:48am
Does he have the bike? I saw a thread on Reddit by a user that had ordered/paid for a Capra that has not been shipped yet.
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kperras Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 9:47am
The global overstock issues continue. I'm guessing YT's investments in the USA are now considered liabilities, and they are finding it hard to do business with an unpredictable tariff environment. Right now, bikes from Taiwan are subject to both duties (~12% for regular bikes, 0% for e-bikes) and then another 32% for tariffs. And who knows what that tariff number will be next week. It's not looking good for other bicycle producing countries (Cambodia 32%, Vietnam 46%, China 34%). Bikes might be on sale now in the USA, but I imagine things are about to get a whole lot more...
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Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/15/2025 11:14am
The tech rumours thread's discussion of the upcoming Fuel (E/M/L)X has got me thinking, and seeing as this thread is just industry talk and Jeff lessons now, this seemed like the appropriate place. Can any of you industry lifers think of another time where you could feasibly see three distinct generations of a particular model on the sales floor of...