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DServy Added a reply to Let's Talk Axle Path
11/22/2023 11:35am I know you've worked with a lot of bikes, and I'd be curious on if you have seen a general trend in axle paths that you have seen provide a consistent feel in compression vs. those that don't. I think it's been interesting to read peoples general thoughts, but without having actually modeled the rear suspension of a bunch of...
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CascadeComponents Liked a reply to forum topic Let's Talk Axle Path
11/22/2023 11:23am It was kind of fun reading this for a while and seeing what everyone thinks. I haven't ridden all high pivot bikes, but I've ridden a good number. Here's my take... The change in weight distribution thing is very real. I find it most obvious whenever I'm transferring weight around on the bike actively, such as lifting the front. It actually drives me crazy having the amount you have to lift change so dramatically throughout travel. Also noticeable cornering in being easier to oversteer. A lot of people tend to unintentionally unweight the front going into corners so that could...
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic Let's Talk Axle Path
11/22/2023 8:23am A big question in this thread is if it makes sense to keep the wheelbase the same anyway. If you do that then your CoG will move forwards when going through the travel, which might be a big negative. There's also the problem of one side of the bike's suspension moving more than the other side, so you're not in sync anyway. The biggest benefit is probably something that's predictable and current layout might be more predictable than parallel paths. Plus using rotating links it's nigh on impossible to make a linear axle path (google Chebyshev linkage, Lawwil might be...
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Robstyle Liked a reply to forum topic Let's Talk Axle Path
11/15/2023 8:31pm This is quite an interesting topic, I've had a couple of high pivot bikes and probably wouldn't buy another... Kinda. I had a norco aurum, which was great I thought. It was always terrible in corners and front end grip was kinda vague. I thought it was a sizing thing perhaps. I then got a norco range and thought this is way better. Could still feel the rearward axle path, but it turned better etc etc. Which led me down a real rabbit hole, I put a wrp link in it which gave fully rearward axle path and dual crown...
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DServy Added a reply to Let's Talk Axle Path
11/15/2023 2:46pm The LSC is a really interesting thing to note. I tend to ride a good amount of LSC on coils anyways, and I felt like I needed/benefited from running a good amount on my Dreadnought to prevent it from wallowing. Its also worth noticing that, as far as I can tell, both of those bikes has less of a rearward...
hamncheez2003 Liked a reply to forum topic Let's Talk Axle Path
11/15/2023 12:55pm What you describe sounds just like super-short chainstay bikes, not necessarily a high pivot. I'm super curious to hear your feedback on that Dreadnaught to verify your theory. LONG RANT INBOUND From my limited experience, it sounds like one of the main benefits of high or mid-high pivot bikes is that the idler pulley on most designs acts like a chainless rear suspension- it is typically tuned to reduce any chain pull and subsequent drag on suspension performance. Its hard to sus out this difference along with the change in axle path. A more rearward axle path will obviously help...
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DServy Added a reply to Let's Talk Axle Path
11/15/2023 12:54pm Man, this rant, so good on so many levels. I think what's interesting about Nico's DH bike (and from listening to his podcast), is the emphasis on the rear axle maintain as much of its "length" as possible (e.g not growing or shrinking too much). However, we accept (and almost prefer) our telescopic forks move our front axle backwards as...
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11/15/2023 7:27am I'd love to get Team Robot's thoughts after riding both the new Trek and Deviate "highish" pivot bikes. What's really interesting to note is that it seems like some of the latest crops of HP bikes are a bit less extreme with their pivot placements, reducing the overall rearward axle path (e.g the new Druid). And if that is the...
nollak Liked a reply to forum topic Let's Talk Axle Path
11/15/2023 7:23am I mean I rode only one HP Bike which is more of a mid pivot bike (Kavenz VHP16). I mainly bought it because I sold my Downhill Bike and only had a Privateer 141 which I loved Geometry wise. Looking at the rear-end only it performed great. Good in chunky stuff and decent on more mellow terrain. But my main Problem was that I always had the feeling I only had grip on the front tire like it is a knives edge. If I moved my body a bit to far to the back I lost grip and if I...
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11/11/2023 9:33am
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DServy Added a reply to Suspension Data Acquisition
11/7/2023 6:49am Would you be willing to share the files needed to 3d print this stuff? Also I see you're using EXT springs on a DHX2, where did you find that spring spacer?
DServy Started a new thread Let's Talk Axle Path
11/7/2023 5:34am What do you want out of your rear axle path? I've wanted to bring this up for discussion after the great Vital enduro bike test, binging anything Neko Mulally has put out about bike design, and after a couple seasons playing around with High Pivot+ Idler (HP+I) bikes. It's been interesting to hear the common refrain of "Wow HP+I feel...
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DServy Added a reply to what kind of brake pads to use front vs back
11/2/2023 1:12pm I'd pay $150 to have the robot laugh at my general lack of skills. But seriously, getting coaching no matter what level of riding you're at is probably the best value for dollar spend you can make biking. Also, getting some cones and setting up skills drills in a park or road and practicing new things AWAY from trails is...
DServy Added a reply to what kind of brake pads to use front vs back
10/31/2023 8:56pm I disagree with having "less capable" in the front, as I view the front brake being the "Boat Anchor" as it were. If I'm really trying to slow down I'm using more front brake than rear. I can see the rear needing to manage heat better as its more likely to be engaged for longer (e.g braking to maintain a...
DServy Added a reply to Suspension Data Acquisition
10/31/2023 8:50am Thanks Rob! I'll reach out to this email and go over everything, Massive props for reaching out on Vital! I will say, the MI stuff is great.
DServy Added a reply to Suspension Data Acquisition
10/31/2023 8:52am So I own and have used the MI kit, and it's great. The only issue I have is that I've had some rear sensor issues more recently and have tried to get in contact with the folks at MI (who used to be very great and responsive) and it's unfortunately been crickets (Update: Rob's reach out in the forum, so...
Simcik Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
10/6/2023 11:26am
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DServy Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
10/6/2023 11:24am Well that's going to make this wheel set hard to sell. Anyone want some 29" ridefast mainlines? Thanks for the update.
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10/6/2023 9:42am Did the death of RideFast get announced publicly? Looks like their Shopify site is no longer around.
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